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hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:04 PM May 2019

No Ari Melber, the NYState law does not 'force Trump to give up part of his taxes to Congress'

the law allows NY State to DIRECTLY SHARE Trump's (or any other) NY State tax return to three committees in Congress--whether Trump wants to or not.

Maybe he's just being imprecise, but given he's an attorney, I was surprised at that... The importance of this law is that Trump does not even enter into the equation. It is a direct transfer.

One of the NY State sponsors of that law coming up.

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brush

(53,743 posts)
1. Huh? Sounds like the same thing to me, just worded differently.
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:14 PM
May 2019

Congress gets his NYS tax returns which will expose plenty. And that probably includes his New York City taxes as well.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
2. No, there's a significant difference. The first implies that Trump will be handing them over.
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:16 PM
May 2019

This isn't dependent on any action of Trump's at all, though it remains to be seen whether the Supreme Court will agree to hear the case.

brush

(53,743 posts)
4. The end result is the same though, right? Congress gets his NYS taxes...
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:19 PM
May 2019

and probably his New York City taxes as well.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. The end result is the same, but the path to getting there is much easier and smoother
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:22 PM
May 2019

Because no one has to go through Trump either directly or through a tax custodian under his control (ala the U.S. Treasury), he has far less ability to stonewall.

He'll probably try to get an injunction preventing the state from turning over his taxes, but he probably won't get very far with that.

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
5. Not at all. One states the returns originate from Trump (or representative) who must release
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:20 PM
May 2019

The other accurately states that the State of NY Tax authority gives them up.

Do you not see a difference?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. No. It's different
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:19 PM
May 2019

The OP is correct.

Ari said the new law will "force Donald Trump to give up part of his tax returns to the U.S. Congress." That's not accurate.

The new law authorizes the NY State tax officials to turn over the state tax returns of any NY resident (which would include Trump) to certain Congressional committees upon request. The law DOESN'T force Trump to give any part or all of his tax returns to Congress. In fact, Trump has no role in it whatsoever.

Which is one of the things that makes it so sweet.

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hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
11. I'm not even sure he got a turn to talk. The others in the roundtable pretty much drowned him out.
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:39 PM
May 2019
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