Democratic Governor Bel Edwards of Louisiana Says He Will Sign Heartbeat Bill (RW Catholic source)

[Odoreida]

Democratic Governor Bel Edwards of Louisiana Says He Will Sign Heartbeat Bill
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/democratic-governor-bel-edwards-of-louisiana-says-he-will-sign-heartbeat-bi

BATON ROUGE - The governor of Louisiana - a Catholic Democrat - says he will sign a bill banning abortions after the detection of a fetal heartbeat, if the legislation arrives on his desk.

“My inclination is to sign it,” said Gov. John Bel Edwards, according to the Monroe News Star.

“It's consistent with my unblemished pro-life record in my years as a legislator and governor,” he said earlier this month.

Last year, Edwards signed a bill to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The governor has cited his Catholic faith as influencing his pro-life beliefs.

The bill still needs approval by the House. If enacted into law, it would ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat can be detected, usually around six weeks into pregnancy. Similar laws have been passed in several other states this year, including Kentucky, Georgia, Mississippi, and Ohio.

While the national Democratic platform is clear in its support for legal abortion, Edwards said on his monthly radio show that his views align with many members of his party in Louisiana.

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[BigmanPigman]

1. I recall reading there is a separation between church

and state someplace. Hmmmm...

[emmaverybo]

2. For Catholics, abortion is murder. Try to argue. You can't. In the mind of many Catholics, abortion

is the murder of a helpless, sentient being. Oh, you CAN argue, but what argument, including the rights of a woman to choose to give birth, really trumps murder? Murder!
True, probably no pain until about 25 weeks says science. Not until the neural circuitry is completed.
But murder?
In many a Catholic mind, no matter how socially and politically liberal, abortion is murder.
Until we can get our heads around this, find a way to argue that women’s right to choose their own fate, determine their own physical destiny justifies the murder of a soul, potential person, we are going to have this argument.

[pnwmom]

3. Most Democratic Catholic politicians don't think it's their job to impose their beliefs on others.

Joe Biden is a Catholic who is pro-choice, and so are the Kennedys.

[emmaverybo]

5. True.Because they fully buy the separation between their personal religious believes and

the state. PS Biden is not for late term, “partial” abortions, but then they are a tiny fraction of abortions, mostly in exceptional circumstances—life of mother, extreme birth abnormality yet to come to light—and not legal in most states.
I am not endorsing, just saying.
And what happens when a Biden’s religious belief is no longer in conflict with a woman’s doctor, her
state, the law of the land?
I am saying we need more powerful arguments.

[Mc Mike]

8. I'm Catholic, and abortion isn't murder. So your post title is incorrect.

Though later in your thesis you slipped into 'many catholics', much more vaguely worded, (harder to disprove but says nothing,) your initial statement is definitive and incorrect.

How come you signed up in '05, and posted 100% of your posts in 2019, emma?

[emmaverybo]

9. I am not a practicing Catholic. I am pro-abortion rights. nt

[SunSeeker]

4. "unblemished pro-life record"

That's an oxymoron.

Being anti-choice IS a blemish...to put it mildly.

I guess he's not running for president after all.

[emmaverybo]

6. This is the problem right here. Total lack of empathy for deeply held beliefs. Just vilifying and

repeating the idea that a woman has a right to choose, what in the mind of those opposed to abortion, is murder.
I say, get some better arguments. We will need them.

[SunSeeker]

7. I wasn't arguing for abortion. I was questioning the wisdom of bragging about being pro-life.

Especially if you want to run for the Democratic nomination for president, as Edwards is rumored to be contemplating.

But since you brought it up, what do you think is a "better argument" to support woman having the right to an abortion?

[emmaverybo]

10. I think responsibility and moral courage is the way to go, a concern for, protection towards

born, as opposed to unborn, life. Women who have abortions don’t do it lightly or selfishly, but much more out of a real sense about the grave responsibility parenthood presents, often consciousness for the needs of already existing children, and the many needs a born life will have, is entitled to.
I think we should emphasize, not women’s freedoms, but more the need to make abortion a last resort, and the fact that most women who exercise choice do so in struggle, do so as the BEST
choice, not as much for themselves as for the future a fully developed being faces.
I think we should talk more about abused, neglected, unwanted, persecuted BORN babies and how this cruel epidemic can be prevented than about OUR rights.
I find that women who choose abortion do so with greater deliberation, care, and yes, moral crisis and courage, than do the many women who, without any concern about what a born, conscious, developing being needs, go ahead and deliver children into untenable, compromising circumstances.
I think we need to beat the murder idea with facts. It is far less a murder to excise a collection of cells than to soul-murder a born being.
And this, this kind of murder after birth, is what goes on.
So I emphasize the rights of the unborn not to be born into misery, and I say women are the best people to decide what is right for the potential life in their bodies.

[SunSeeker]

11. I agree. Most women who have abortions have at least one child.

And are doing it to preserve their quality of life.