Sun May 26, 2019, 12:17 PM

shockey80 (4,379 posts)

If the Democrats impeach, the Senate does not convict, it may not affect the election like we think.

That's my opinion, I believe Trump has his base and that's it. No matter what happens he will get no new voters. I believe it would have a contrary result. It would hurt Trump and the Republicans.

I believe the Democrats could build such a strong case during impeachment the public would make it difficult for the Republicans to vote against it. I may be wrong but that's how I feel right now.

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If the Democrats impeach, the Senate does not convict, it may not affect the election like we think. (Original post)	shockey80	May 2019	OP
ANY impeachment effort will bring more anti-trump voters to democratic side and hence fuel another	beachbum bob	May 2019	#1
Exactly.	shockey80	May 2019	#2
Pelosi will have no choice in coming weeks/months, if she doesn't , democrats will sit home in 2020	beachbum bob	May 2019	#4
That's my biggest fear... we need a HUGE turnout, so that it's not EVEN CLOSE...	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2019	#8
Bingo!! Impeach him already!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2019	#7
Also, impeachment doesn't have to be limited to the Mueller report	Bettie	May 2019	#10
Because of the egregious crimes committed by trump if we don't impeach we're in violation of the	onecaliberal	May 2019	#3
I mentioned this elsewhere but	trev	May 2019	#5
That IS an interesting observation... good on you!	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2019	#9
I agree.	kentuck	May 2019	#6
Or facebook	scarytomcat	May 2019	#14
If Pelosi does not lead the House and Democratic party into the impeachment	PufPuf23	May 2019	#11
Who's "we"?	maxsolomon	May 2019	#12
History shows that you are correct	Poiuyt	May 2019	#13

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Sun May 26, 2019, 12:27 PM

beachbum bob (10,437 posts)

1. ANY impeachment effort will bring more anti-trump voters to democratic side and hence fuel another

blue wave...

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:29 PM

shockey80 (4,379 posts)

2. Exactly.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #2)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:33 PM

beachbum bob (10,437 posts)

4. Pelosi will have no choice in coming weeks/months, if she doesn't , democrats will sit home in 2020

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #4)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:56 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (23,141 posts)

8. That's my biggest fear... we need a HUGE turnout, so that it's not EVEN CLOSE...

and that even GI-normous Rethug election cheating would have no chance of negatively affecting the outcome this time.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:51 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (23,141 posts)

7. Bingo!! Impeach him already!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:11 PM

Bettie (10,624 posts)

10. Also, impeachment doesn't have to be limited to the Mueller report

there are many things he can be impeached on....just pick any day that ends with Y and look it over, there's probably something there.

Emoluments: he's not supposed to profit from being president, and yet, he does. That 100 mil that has been spent on golf outings? How much of that goes directly into his pocket?

And it has to start before 2020 or they'll be screaming about it being in an election year. If it starts before the end of this year, it's ongoing.

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Sun May 26, 2019, 12:29 PM

onecaliberal (19,576 posts)

3. Because of the egregious crimes committed by trump if we don't impeach we're in violation of the

Oath to protect and defend the constitution.

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Sun May 26, 2019, 12:39 PM

trev (1,480 posts)

5. I mentioned this elsewhere but

I think we ought to throw Trump's mental incapacitation into the impeachment mix. We need to argue that his mental health is an issue and makes him unfit for office.

We've already lived through one Alzheimer's president; we definitely don't need another.

(On a side note, I find it interesting that the two impaired presidents are the very ones the Republicans worship the most.)

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Sun May 26, 2019, 12:58 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (23,141 posts)

9. That IS an interesting observation... good on you!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Sun May 26, 2019, 12:41 PM

kentuck (100,924 posts)

6. I agree.

Republicans are not going to rush out and vote for Trump after they hear facts they have never heard on FOX News before.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #6)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:24 PM

scarytomcat (1,417 posts)

14. Or facebook

But they won't believe, fake news you know

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Sun May 26, 2019, 01:15 PM

PufPuf23 (7,219 posts)

11. If Pelosi does not lead the House and Democratic party into the impeachment

process, the Democratic party will be gravely damaged up and down the slate in 2020.

If the Senate does not convict, incumbent GOP Senators will suffer in the 2020 election.

Agree with you that Trump has a base that will not be swayed.

IMO it is more important to stop subsidizing fundamental Christian impact on voting than messing with Electoral College and maybe even gerrymandering.

This all about getting rid of a sickness that has infected our Democratic Republic and has been ignored far too long.

Barr needs to be impeached and humiliated out of public influence and power as well.

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Sun May 26, 2019, 01:30 PM

maxsolomon (23,733 posts)

12. Who's "we"?

I don't think that it will help Asshole's chances. You don't.

SOME think it will help Asshole's chances, no "we".

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Sun May 26, 2019, 01:32 PM

Poiuyt (15,583 posts)

13. History shows that you are correct

After Nixon, a Democrat was elected president. After Clinton was impeached, a Republican was.

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