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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Wolff: Mueller drafted a 3-count obstruction indictment against Trump
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A spokesperson denies that, but uses very interesting parsed language that leaves a mile-wide opening: The documents that youve described do not exist, Mueller spokesman Peter Carr said in a statement to the Washington Examiner.
PSPS
(13,593 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)"pimping" his book?
Then, there's this:
But Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller, told the Guardian: The documents that youve described do not exist.
I'll take Carr's word for this being a lie, but this has already achieved its goal. Wolff will get lots of free air time now to pimp his new book.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But I get it... we often have to do that in order to reinforce the narrative we've alleged if we have no evidence to support it as such.
You did read the story, yes?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Maybe William Barr ordered them to be destroyed.
Bonx
(2,053 posts)brush
(53,771 posts)and testify publicly. We taxpayers paid for his probe and put much faith in him for nearly two years for him not to let us know definitively what he found out about the obvious fraud in the WH.
Now is not the time for him to let Barr and trump get away with what's so in our face.
PSPS
(13,593 posts)Then, there's this:
But Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller, told the Guardian: The documents that youve described do not exist.
I'll take Carr's word for this being a lie, but this has already achieved its goal. Wolff will get lots of free air time now to pimp his new book.
brush
(53,771 posts)And the point of my post is that Mueller needs to testify publicly and straighten out all of the inuendos and rumors.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)that it's entirely untrue, but he didn't.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... substance !?
Someone on Mueller's team is double speaking and screwing around
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)attorneys (and their spokespersons) are extraordinarily precise in their language. When they say "The document doesn't exist," they aren't denying the document neve existed - just that it no longer does
In other words, it's possible that Mueller did indeed draft this indictment, but the document was deleted or destroyed. Interesting that the spokesperson did not deny that Mueller ever drafted such a document
Me.
(35,454 posts)if he shelved the document, it would not exist
sop
(10,166 posts)Mueller really needs to answer a lot of questions.
Butterflylady
(3,543 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)It's interesting reading. I've no problem with Wolff "pimping his book." That's what he does for a living so naturally he and his publisher would want to sell it. It doesn't mean what's in it is untrue. I'd love to see copies of the documents. Mueller never leaked during the entire investigation so how the hell did he get those? Is there someone on the team that thought they should come out? It's all very intriguing and sure to send Orange into a Twistorm.
TheRealistRealist
(180 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)mopinko
(70,088 posts)when you can change the meaning of a statement to it's exact opposite that easily, you have good reason to be suspicious.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)PufPuf23
(8,769 posts)Mueller's spokesman states that the draft indictment never existed.
I am in the minority that did not expect a favorable outcome from Mueller because well Mueller is Mueller.
Michael Wolffs Claim of Draft Indictment of Trump Doesn't Exist, Says Mueller's Office
A spokesman for Robert Mueller has strongly denied a claim from Fire And Fury author Michael Wolff that the special counsel drew up a three-count obstruction of justice indictment against Donald Trump before deciding to ditch it.
The unverified allegation is made in Wolff's new book, Siege: Trump Under Fire, which is due to be published next week. It's the sequel to Fire and Fury, which infuriated the president for its claims about the dysfunctional inner workings of his White House.
The Guardian obtained a copy of the new book and reports that Wolff states his findings about Mueller's supposed draft indictment are based on internal documents given to me by sources close to the Office of the Special Counsel. The newspaper writes that it's seen the documents.
More at: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-wolffs-claim-of-draft-indictment-of-trump-doesnt-exist-says-muellers-office/ar-AAC22WZ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=spartandhp
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... truth about the Buzzfeed story when they got the jist and substance correct.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)stopdiggin
(11,300 posts)Note, both side here are using "squishy" language. Wolff: based on internal documents given to me by sources close to the Office of the Special Counsel. Which doesn't exactly say, "I HAVE the indictment" or even "I have SEEN Mueller's draft proposal." "Based on," can mean a lot of things .. including I can infer from what I have seen ...
And .. if Mueller did not proceed with this (whatever "this" is) .. wouldn't that kind of let the air out of the whole topic? The gist I'm getting here is that Mueller noodled around with an idea (legal avenue) .. and then dropped it.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)it never existed, he said the document does not exist. Words are important.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)My impression has been that once Barr was installed, he ordered everything buried so of course no one would verify the claim. I'll probably read it since his last book was pretty good and I don't think any of it was debunked.
onenote
(42,700 posts)My principal reason for doubting this story is "why Wolff"? Why would someone with access to these documents give them to Wolff out of all of the journalists out there? Why give them to someone who was writing a book rather than to someone who writes for newspaper?
And if the story is true and Wolff has the documents and the Guardian has seen them, it will be interesting to see whether Wolff's book reproduces copies of the documents or the Guardian ever publishes copies of them. If they don't, it's another reason to doubt the veracity of the story.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Mueller comes off rather badly and a disappointment. Where, I wonder, is the brave Marine?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/28/mueller-trump-obstruction-charge-michael-wolff-book-siege-under-fire-news
moondust
(19,974 posts)Barr made sure they were shredded?
Of course that does not mean they never existed.
lindysalsagal
(20,678 posts)"Oh, those empty bottles were from years ago....."