Wed May 29, 2019, 11:34 AM

House Democrats can officially stop wasting time on Mueller

His work is done.

If you believe Pelosi just wants to run out the clock on impeachment, which I do, he’s saying don’t waste your time on me, what I have to say is in the report, PLUS, in case you didn’t understand what we said in writing: “If we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”

So what we have here is a report that was delivered in late March, followed by two months of Democratic leadership saying we need to hear from Mueller and a statement today that basically amounts to

a) no you don’t, what I have to say is in the report,

b) we did not exonerate the President on obstruction; if there was no crime we would have said so and

c) the Constitution requires a process other than through the criminal justice system to find a president guilty of a crime.

That’s called impeachment. Your move, Speaker Pelosi.

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House Democrats can officially stop wasting time on Mueller (Original post)	BeyondGeography	May 2019	OP
Yep. What concerns me is that Barr said the same thing on 3/24/2019, and that did not cause the	Hoyt	May 2019	#1
Agreed 1000%	BlueWI	May 2019	#2
or will all these	bdamomma	May 2019	#3
Mueller needs to testify before congress you can't make an iron clad case without the investigator	uponit7771	May 2019	#4
His report is the testimony	BeyondGeography	May 2019	#5
I agree with De Niro, no it's not. Mueller DID say he would not give information to congress...	uponit7771	May 2019	#6
We have more than enough facts in the report that we can act on	BeyondGeography	May 2019	#9
Agreed, we can act without Mueller right now but we still need all the facts and we can get some of	uponit7771	May 2019	#10
Congress doesn't need Mueller's testimony since the evidence is all in his report	StarfishSaver	May 2019	#12
This is false, all the evidence regarding Mueller's report is NOT in the report. There are	uponit7771	May 2019	#13
I strongly disagree with this	NewJeffCT	May 2019	#7
What if it's proven that tRUMP ordered BARR to stop Mueller? (OBSTRUCTION!)	bluestarone	May 2019	#8
Yup. My summary of his speech "Hey, Congress, do your fucking job."	Cuthbert Allgood	May 2019	#11
+1 nt	Hotler	May 2019	#14

Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:57 AM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

1. Yep. What concerns me is that Barr said the same thing on 3/24/2019, and that did not cause the

House to begin Impeachment in earnest. Not sure what Mueller saying it again does, but maybe some folks will take notice.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:45 AM

BlueWI (1,736 posts)

2. Agreed 1000%

It now becomes more risky to subpoena Mueller, given his signaling that the guide to what's impeachable is already in the report.

Public opinion is one our side now! Waiting for another smoking gun before moving forward may backfire.

It's on - we either constitutional processes to address a rogue presidency or face the graver consequences of inaction.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:47 AM

bdamomma (62,192 posts)

3. or will all these

committees keep on investigating until the election next year, and leave it up to the electorate. By then who even knows what kind of government/country we will have.

They need to get the inquiry moving.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:22 AM

uponit7771 (88,624 posts)

4. Mueller needs to testify before congress you can't make an iron clad case without the investigator

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:25 AM

BeyondGeography (38,561 posts)

5. His report is the testimony

He’s not saying he won’t do it, but he would not add anything to what has been written.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:28 AM

uponit7771 (88,624 posts)

6. I agree with De Niro, no it's not. Mueller DID say he would not give information to congress...

... near the end of his presser multiple times and was very clear at telling congress to pound sand.

There are hundreds of rational questions about the report that need to be answered RIGHT NOW if we're still vulnerable.

I'm not totally done with Mueller but I'm damn close.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:37 AM

BeyondGeography (38,561 posts)

9. We have more than enough facts in the report that we can act on

If we choose to act. Flogging Mueller for more at this point smacks of a delaying tactic more than anything else.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #9)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:42 AM

uponit7771 (88,624 posts)

10. Agreed, we can act without Mueller right now but we still need all the facts and we can get some of

... those through Mueller.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:50 AM

StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)

12. Congress doesn't need Mueller's testimony since the evidence is all in his report

But many people think the public needs to hear it

Two different things

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #12)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:55 AM

uponit7771 (88,624 posts)

13. This is false, all the evidence regarding Mueller's report is NOT in the report. There are

... hundreds of questions surrounding the report that need to be answered that the report gives no clue of.

People who've read the report fully have rational questions about process's etc that Mueller can answer

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:31 AM

NewJeffCT (56,793 posts)

7. I strongly disagree with this

People will watch the movie or TV show, but not read the book.

Just having Mueller on the stand reading excerpts from the report will reach an audience probably 100 times bigger than the audience that read the report or listened to the audiobook.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:34 AM

bluestarone (14,734 posts)

8. What if it's proven that tRUMP ordered BARR to stop Mueller? (OBSTRUCTION!)

When the House starts the inquires it's possible this will be discovered. The rethugs plan is to STRETCH this out but time will run out on them i feel. Wonder if Mueller will testify as to HOW this all ended? I almost feel we should start with BARR! WE WILL WIN THIS!

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:44 AM

Cuthbert Allgood (4,371 posts)

11. Yup. My summary of his speech "Hey, Congress, do your fucking job."

It was very clear.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 10:24 AM

Hotler (10,170 posts)

14. +1 nt

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