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47of74

(18,470 posts)
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:34 PM May 2019

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Reveals Chilling Morning Ritual In Face Of Death Threats

Fuck the Fresno Grizzlies

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) hit back at a minor league baseball team that depicted her as an “enemy of freedom” in a Memorial Day tribute clip by revealing a regular morning ritual she goes through to ensure her safety.

The lawmaker on Tuesday responded to a controversial video that the Fresno Grizzlies aired at Chukchansi Park with a Twitter thread explaining how her life has changed due to “the flood of death threats” that those kind of “hateful messages” inspire.

“I‘ve had mornings where I wake up & the 1st thing I do w/ my coffee is review photos of the men (it’s always men) who want to kill me,” Ocasio-Cortez tweeted.

“I don’t even get to see all of them,” she added in a follow-up tweet. “Just the ones that have been flagged as particularly troubling.”

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Reveals Chilling Morning Ritual In Face Of Death Threats (Original Post) 47of74 May 2019 OP
Keep Safe Alexandria MagickMuffin May 2019 #1
They have a legal (as well as moral) obligation to do so. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #20
is that BT or PT? Hermit-The-Prog May 2019 #30
No sarcasm whatsoever. 100% true. pangaia May 2019 #46
What a remarkable young woman. I salute her bravery to remain as outspoken as she is. Arkansas Granny May 2019 #2
It is truly troubling the depths of evil RAB910 May 2019 #3
the left is not getting her back re talk radio certainot May 2019 #36
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker May 2019 #4
That's so sad ZeroSomeBrains May 2019 #5
Real men threaten women on the internet???? NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #6
Uh, some men have been doing this from the beginning. The Gamer Wars explicitly went after women... Hekate May 2019 #16
When you have that many mob-rule people against you, you must be the law-and-order candidate ffr May 2019 #7
Glarring bit of non action Wellstone ruled May 2019 #8
This is so disturbing. StarryNite May 2019 #9
Freedom is Slavery ... Martin Eden May 2019 #10
You would think that since there is money to spend on 45's worthless, parasitic spawn to travel alwaysinasnit May 2019 #11
Stay Safe Sweet Lady, We need you! dem in texas May 2019 #12
Go shit in your hats, Grizzlies! Fritz Walter May 2019 #13
Kind of weird that they think that Kim Jong Un is an enemy. progressoid May 2019 #14
They should have AOC bobblehead day. zonkers May 2019 #15
Stay well and safe brave young woman. appalachiablue May 2019 #17
Good to see the minor league team refuting it and apologizing Cosmocat May 2019 #18
What the fuck is wrong with people??? Initech May 2019 #19
"People"? They're all MEN. Maybe a man around here can explain what's wrong with those who ancianita May 2019 #21
I'm a guy and I definitely don't associate with these low life scumbags. Initech May 2019 #22
Great that you don't. But why do men threaten the KILL women leaders, that's what I want to know. ancianita May 2019 #23
Well it's men in general doing most of the violence and the crime. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #24
But why. Is it nature or nurture? Which impacts the other more? I've studied and studied, but men ancianita May 2019 #26
"men are not cost effective to anyone" Could you explain that to me please. wasupaloopa May 2019 #29
I use the title of a 1995 book by June Stephenson of the same name. This is before computers ancianita May 2019 #38
Don't forget the various religions' role BigmanPigman May 2019 #41
Women are well aware of that. Mary Daly, Marilyn French and others have great histories of that. ancianita May 2019 #42
Nurture. This is something that is 'taught' and made OK to them. ck4829 May 2019 #47
Threatening to kill anything is historically men's work Loki Liesmith May 2019 #32
Weak men don't like strong women, she reminds them of their weakness. marylandblue May 2019 #34
Simple. She is a threat to their masculinity. Gore1FL May 2019 #31
We are not them and are no different from you in trying to understand them. Just because we have a wasupaloopa May 2019 #33
Of course I lump nonviolent men in with the best of men. But the worst are still not just women's ancianita May 2019 #35
Well that's not a realistic point of view I think. How do you expect to work on a problem wasupaloopa May 2019 #37
Who decided that? Have you ever taken a women's studies course? No one said the word "enemy;" ancianita May 2019 #39
Question: are you male? If so, why do you expect me to do all the realistic explaining when I'm the ancianita May 2019 #40
System justification, right wing authoritarianism, ingroup bias, and a helping of racism and sexism ck4829 May 2019 #50
I want her to be President Of The United States. warmfeet May 2019 #25
A bit more this, a bit less that. Really? Are we going to keep talking this way about women leaders? ancianita May 2019 #27
I don't think he meant it like that. AOC is absolutely outstanding. PatrickforO May 2019 #44
We all need the Green New Deal NOW; it's why I'm for Inslee. AOC had me at the dance video. ancianita May 2019 #45
Yeah, that dance vid was great. PatrickforO May 2019 #52
She's not old enough to run. BannonsLiver May 2019 #53
Of course. People need not worry about her growth or age, nor want her to run for now. They ancianita May 2019 #54
K BannonsLiver May 2019 #56
+1 ck4829 May 2019 #49
Rim Job started free republic in Fresno. I was there over the weekend. It is looking better with wasupaloopa May 2019 #28
Intellectually lazy, low info voters will probably doom our republic in the end. BannonsLiver May 2019 #55
AOC is wonderful - the future of our party. PatrickforO May 2019 #43
K&R ck4829 May 2019 #48
I Love AOC, and Would Like Her to Be President Someday, Too panfluteman May 2019 #51

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
1. Keep Safe Alexandria
Wed May 29, 2019, 12:40 PM
May 2019

I'm sure the Feds can track these "men", but the question remains: Will they???

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
30. is that BT or PT?
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:24 PM
May 2019

Is that obligation from Before Trump still applicable Post TrumPutin/McConnell?

(Only a trace of sarcasm in the above).

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. the left is not getting her back re talk radio
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:36 PM
May 2019

limbaugh on 600 radio stations started the year making up a silly pretext to use the phrase "take her out" about 5 times one show - suggesting dem leaders were going to take her out

they can't do that with fox

he sets the tone for 1500 radio stations and we even let 88 universities support 260 of his stations

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
6. Real men threaten women on the internet????
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:48 PM
May 2019

The world of conservatives is truly BIZZAROWORLD. There isn't anything that isn't totally opposite of what sane people consider normal.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
16. Uh, some men have been doing this from the beginning. The Gamer Wars explicitly went after women...
Wed May 29, 2019, 02:23 PM
May 2019

The Incels congregate to hate on women. There are plenty of men in the Internet with nothing better to do than threaten women and try to drive them out of "their" space.

Trumpism enables them all.

ffr

(23,399 posts)
7. When you have that many mob-rule people against you, you must be the law-and-order candidate
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:49 PM
May 2019

AOC, you are an American patriot!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Glarring bit of non action
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:51 PM
May 2019

the DOJ on this matter,is it not. If it was a Rethug,the Hammer would have fell months ago.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
10. Freedom is Slavery ...
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:54 PM
May 2019

… and Ignorance is Strength to the MAGA morons.

They embrace an ignorant fascist who assaults the free press and our rule of law, but make death threats against a young congresswoman who wants to ensure they have affordable health care and education.

That's what "patriotism" has become on the right.

alwaysinasnit

(5,624 posts)
11. You would think that since there is money to spend on 45's worthless, parasitic spawn to travel
Wed May 29, 2019, 01:56 PM
May 2019

on the taxpayers' dime, there should be funds to protect members of Congress from this kind of threat. (Remember Rep. Barbara Lee and her sole dissenting vote on AUMF after 9/11.)

I know Glenn Greenwald has lost a lot of credibility but he was spot on regarding Rep. Lee's bravery.
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/11/barbara-lees-lone-vote-on-sept-14-2001-was-as-prescient-as-it-was-brave-and-heroic/


"For her lone stance, Lee was deluged with rancid insults and death threats to the point where she needed around-the-clock bodyguards. She was vilified as “anti-American” by numerous outlets including the Wall Street Journal. The Washington Times editorialized on September 18 that “Ms. Lee is a long-practicing supporter of America’s enemies — from Fidel Castro on down” and that “while most of the left-wing Democrats spent the week praising President Bush and trying to sound as moderate as possible, Barbara Lee continued to sail under her true colors.” Since then, she has been repeatedly rejected in her bids to join the House Democratic leadership, typically losing to candidates close to Wall Street and in support of militarism. I documented numerous other ugly attacks when I wrote about her for The Guardian in 2013."

dem in texas

(2,681 posts)
12. Stay Safe Sweet Lady, We need you!
Wed May 29, 2019, 02:00 PM
May 2019

Sad that there is so much evil in the world. Social Media feeds the fire of these goons by letting them make their evil threats. I think it is way past time for Twitter, Facebook, etc; to pull the cord on these idiots. First cord to pull would be their Hater in Chief, DJTrump, who is, sadly, our president.

progressoid

(53,179 posts)
14. Kind of weird that they think that Kim Jong Un is an enemy.
Wed May 29, 2019, 02:15 PM
May 2019

Since their orange hero in the white house thinks Kim is a swell guy.

Cosmocat

(15,424 posts)
18. Good to see the minor league team refuting it and apologizing
Wed May 29, 2019, 02:24 PM
May 2019

Past that ... This country is lost.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
21. "People"? They're all MEN. Maybe a man around here can explain what's wrong with those who
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:59 PM
May 2019

threaten her life.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
23. Great that you don't. But why do men threaten the KILL women leaders, that's what I want to know.
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:14 PM
May 2019

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
26. But why. Is it nature or nurture? Which impacts the other more? I've studied and studied, but men
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:05 PM
May 2019

don't produce any knowledge that they or women can use.

Isn't there a thumb nail explanation that can arm women like AOC? Or ANY woman in public life, for that matter.

And why are so much of women's resources -- tax money, reparative spending (medical, mental health help) on theirs and their children's lives -- spent on dealing with male damages?

Women have been dealing with the reality that men are not cost effective to anyone, which is probably why men like Trump have so much money to buffer all the damage they do. But that's everywhere, isn't it.

But why.



ancianita

(43,307 posts)
38. I use the title of a 1995 book by June Stephenson of the same name. This is before computers
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:58 PM
May 2019

Last edited Wed May 29, 2019, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)

and Internet research could broaden and deepen her numbers and research, so it needs updating in all the categories of her thesis: that men, violence incurs costs to everyone and not just the victims
-- witnesses, spouses, children, society, medical, court costs and social costs in dollar terms.

To me, her book raised a real problem for women in this and other countries. But her book wasn't well received by male reviewers, predictably. I still have it somewhere in my women's studies collection.

In a final chapter she attributes the crimes she gives (for its day) well researched numbers for, to massive sexism, beginning with school instruction that emphasizes men's roles in history; and societal inculcations about "manhood" that prevent men from feeling empathy for others, along with the business world's presumptions that income inequality is women's problem and men's inherent right, since women have had little to no say about the public sphere, which men took over, for millennia.

Some of her solutions: Involve men more in daily child care; reduce media depictions of violence and access to guns. One suggestion that stood out to me is that men should pay an extra tax for their costs on society, which could then be spent, for examplein providing help for troubled boys, or to rehabilitate prisoners.

The general gist is that what less money women make is spent on prevention and clean up of damage men do to them and others in women's sphere or in public. Women pay disproportionate taxes toward law enforcement funding, or laws that restrict them, laws that they have little to no say in.

That's a more detailed look at what I meant.

We're still dealing with male outrage and simmering resentment that women expect "mere equality" without even having to work to earn it.

And so the currents across continents that women leaders like Hillary, AOC, or Malala Yousafzai, etc., have to swim against.



ancianita

(43,307 posts)
42. Women are well aware of that. Mary Daly, Marilyn French and others have great histories of that.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:19 PM
May 2019

This reference was about money, though, of course, women paid the costs (in other ways) that male run religions and their male gods exacted upon them.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
32. Threatening to kill anything is historically men's work
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:41 PM
May 2019

Their bodies are built for it. It’s unsurprising that their psychology is also somewhat primed for it.

It’s not just women that are targets. Any problem is theoretically solvable through the application of violence.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
34. Weak men don't like strong women, she reminds them of their weakness.
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:43 PM
May 2019

And rather than develop their own real strength, they assert dominance through threats and violence.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
31. Simple. She is a threat to their masculinity.
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:35 PM
May 2019

Testosterone mixed with fight-or-flight mentality* in a civilized society makes for weird happenings.

* My fight-or-flight mentality statement comes from this scientific study on the brain --> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3092984/

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
33. We are not them and are no different from you in trying to understand them. Just because we have a
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:42 PM
May 2019

penis it doesn't put us in a bag with those men.

Why don't you look at men who have done great things for humanity and lump us all with them?

I now why you don't have to answer.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
35. Of course I lump nonviolent men in with the best of men. But the worst are still not just women's
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:34 PM
May 2019

problem to figure out. It pains all women to know that women leaders daily face murder threats just because of their "mere equality" under the rule of law. Law that men made.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
37. Well that's not a realistic point of view I think. How do you expect to work on a problem
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:56 PM
May 2019

if you can't define it realistically?


Men are not your enemy. Right wing men, evangelical men, misogynistic men are your enemy. Not me nor my brothers.

It will take men and women working side by side to improve life.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
39. Who decided that? Have you ever taken a women's studies course? No one said the word "enemy;"
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:09 PM
May 2019

and the fact that you want to put that word in my mouth means that you see it, for whatever reason.

How do women know until it's too late who are the misogynistic men when they're "working side by side." Even my armed sisters in the military -- as equal an institution as it gets -- get raped. Explain that, if you can.

I call it the "ambush." It's a key to winning a contest in a game against equality -- in the name of "manhood" or ego -- that men lead women to believe they're not even playing.

Your platitudes ring hollow in the face of the history between men and women, much of which men have erased or given "official" explanations for in their versions.

When you read more statistics about male predations and crimes, you can see how "realistic" you yourself are about your brothers. A start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
40. Question: are you male? If so, why do you expect me to do all the realistic explaining when I'm the
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:22 PM
May 2019

one asking for men to explain the AOC male problem.

All I get are platitudes that seem like social dogma: that's just the way it is. Some things will never change ... as the song goes.

Here: Where's the brothers' responsibility to sisters to even try to answer their questions.

In Washington: in the face of AOC's daily death threats, all that's done is to bleep out the accounts of the threateners, not to send out police to arrest them for assault with intent to commit murder. That would cost taxpayers and cops time and money, right? But rich men like 45 get our taxpayer paid Secret Service to do their dirty work every damn day.

Those are three examples of the "realistic" cost effectiveness I'm talking about.

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
50. System justification, right wing authoritarianism, ingroup bias, and a helping of racism and sexism
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:51 AM
May 2019

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
25. I want her to be President Of The United States.
Wed May 29, 2019, 07:55 PM
May 2019

Wish she was just a bit older.

Oh well, always 2024 or 2028.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
27. A bit more this, a bit less that. Really? Are we going to keep talking this way about women leaders?
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:06 PM
May 2019

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
44. I don't think he meant it like that. AOC is absolutely outstanding.
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:59 AM
May 2019

All of us are lucky she chose to become a public servant.

You should be mindful that AOC is only 29 years old, and the Constitution sets forth the rule that a president must be 35 years old.

She has a great future and is in there slugging now. You know what I find really cool about her? She isn't afraid of losing reelection. She's in there to serve, and goes by her inner lights, not what polls say. I saw her on a video and she was telling young people to run for office. She said, "You know what? If you only get to serve one term, so what?"

I wish they all had her kind of courage, because my grandkids need that Green New Deal NOW, and I'm still disgusted with the Senate for voting 'present.' Oh, it was explained to me at length why that was the 'wise' thing to do...but my grandkids need the Green New Deal NOW.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
45. We all need the Green New Deal NOW; it's why I'm for Inslee. AOC had me at the dance video.
Thu May 30, 2019, 01:50 AM
May 2019

And all the other stuff you said.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
52. Yeah, that dance vid was great.
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

Sure backfired on the Republicans, didn't it? I'd be proud of any of my kids for being in a vid like that.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
54. Of course. People need not worry about her growth or age, nor want her to run for now. They
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:41 AM
May 2019

can just focus on her strengths. "Too old" stuff ends up becoming the flip side. So don't pile on here.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
28. Rim Job started free republic in Fresno. I was there over the weekend. It is looking better with
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:08 PM
May 2019

newer buildings but it is still a conservative city.

My sister-in-law and her wife, who live in Fresno, voted for Devin Nunes. Yes they are gay and vote for wing nuts. Basically they don't know any better. They are not very political but are influenced by their co-workers.

One of them is a teacher and thinks Nunes supports her union. That's what she was told. I asked her to research these politicos and see for herself but I have no effect. It's Fresno.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
55. Intellectually lazy, low info voters will probably doom our republic in the end.
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
May 2019

I see no way to break the cycle either. We are not a nation brimming with intelligent people.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
43. AOC is wonderful - the future of our party.
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:54 AM
May 2019

You all should go on her twitter feed and see this video:




Absolutely outstanding.

panfluteman

(2,193 posts)
51. I Love AOC, and Would Like Her to Be President Someday, Too
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:43 AM
May 2019

If she makes it that far. Unfortunately, with all these death threats, she could turn out to be a martyr to her cause, like Martin Luther King. It is truly ironic that these MAGAt men have been so brainwashed by their "fearless leader" that they are being used as tools by him and are willing to go out and kill a lawmaker who is truly fighting to help them live a better life. Ignorance and testosterone are a volatile and dangerous mix.

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