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Vidal

(642 posts)
Wed May 29, 2019, 04:17 PM May 2019

Pelosi just used Melania as an example of Trump's hypocrisy on immigration

In comments Wednesday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi poked the bear yet again, by calling out President Donald Trump’s immigration policy by using his wife and her family as an example.

“I don’t know merit counted when his wife’s family came into the country. God bless them if it did,” Pelosi said.

According to Pelosi, Trump’s merit-based immigration proposal means “make America white again.”


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Pelosi just used Melania as an example of Trump's hypocrisy on immigration (Original Post) Vidal May 2019 OP
Yes! he cannot stand being called out like that Beringia May 2019 #1
Another one of Trump's red lines gratuitous May 2019 #8
She really knows how to get under his skin. TheCowsCameHome May 2019 #2
Keep up the good work, Nancy! sheshe2 May 2019 #3
Still waiting "Trump promises press conference on Melania's immigration story" StTimofEdenRoc May 2019 #4
lol CatWoman May 2019 #5
Hey! Melania was positively GIFTED at doing soft-core porn! 11 Bravo May 2019 #6
Also two of his three wives are foreign born, procon May 2019 #7
Good ol' merit-based Viktor and Amalija Knavs Miles Archer May 2019 #9
Trump's merit-based immigration proposal boils down to "Fuckable" and "Not Fuckable" hunter May 2019 #10
An immigrant grandfather, immigrant mother Retrograde May 2019 #11
Melania was illegal Vidal May 2019 #12
The first Mrs. MF45, Ivana, scammed her way to Canada from Czechoslovakia Tanuki May 2019 #13

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Another one of Trump's red lines
Wed May 29, 2019, 05:37 PM
May 2019

In addition to questions about the Emperor's wealth (or lack thereof), Trump really hates having his family pulled into the discussion. Especially when, as here, they're germane to the subject at hand.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. She really knows how to get under his skin.
Wed May 29, 2019, 04:20 PM
May 2019

Bless her heart.

She will have him all tied up in knots before she's done.

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. Also two of his three wives are foreign born,
Wed May 29, 2019, 05:21 PM
May 2019

as was his mother. None of them had the sort of advanced skills Trump has proposed under his merit system.

So why is it OK for Trump to have all his family members arrive as unskilled immigrants, but the same benefit doesn't apply to other people?

hunter

(38,309 posts)
10. Trump's merit-based immigration proposal boils down to "Fuckable" and "Not Fuckable"
Wed May 29, 2019, 06:39 PM
May 2019

And maybe a few useless relatives of the fuckables because it makes the fuckables more compliant.

Trump knows very well all his non-fuckable relatives are useless.



Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
11. An immigrant grandfather, immigrant mother
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:20 PM
May 2019

two immigrant wives, and some chain-immigrant in-laws - and he wants to ban immigrants. Of course, the ones he wants to ban don't come from Europe...

BTW, what kind of visa did the first Mrs. Trump have?

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
12. Melania was illegal
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:49 PM
May 2019

She violated the terms of her visa and should never have been granted citizenship.

The only immigrants Trumpsters like are white so Melania and her parents are OK to them.

Tanuki

(14,917 posts)
13. The first Mrs. MF45, Ivana, scammed her way to Canada from Czechoslovakia
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:51 PM
May 2019

via a phony marriage to a different guy. Once she made it to Canada she entered the U S legally and met MF45. But since her immigration to Canada was fraudulent, it would seem (to me anyway) that her presence here was the fruit of a poison tree.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1346923/ivanka-trump-says-her-mother-ivana-came-to-the-us-legally-but-only-thanks-to-an-earlier-visa-scam/amp/

..."The president’s first wife does seem to have entered the US legally in 1976: She moved from Canada to the US to work as a promoter for Montreal’s Olympics. In New York, she met Donald Trump and married him the following year. But it took a visa scam for her to leave her native Czechoslovakia in the first place, which her lawyer Michael Kennedy described as a “Cold War marriage.”

In 1972, Ivana was dating George Syrovatka. But she married Austrian friend Alfred Winklmayr, a union she reportedly kept rather private (even her children didn’t know about it.) In a 1990 news conference during the divorce trial for Ivana and Donald Trump, Kennedy said that Ivana and Winklmayr married for the “sole purpose” of her leaving Czechoslovakia.

The couple, said the lawyer, never consummated the marriage and never lived together. Thanks to the marriage, she received an Austrian passport in March 1972, with which she emigrated to Canada a few months later. There, she kept up the façade marriage through the waiting period required for her immigration status to be confirmed. She dissolved the union in 1973—and moved in with Syrovatka in Montreal.

In the US, marrying Winklmayr for immigration purposes would be a felony called “marriage fraud.” According to ICE, marriage fraud “carries a prison sentence of up to five years and a fine of up to $250,000, and applies to both foreign nationals and U.S. citizens who perpetrate this crime.” Convenience marriages contracted in order to obtain immigration status are illegal also in Austria and Canada.

“She wanted her freedom,” Kennedy said of his client’s sham marriage."



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