Wed May 29, 2019, 08:52 PM

Vidal (642 posts)

Joy Reid trashed a person for being an "elder" "white" "man"

Why is it OK for her to discriminate on the basis of age, race and sex?

Why is she hating on Baby Boomers.

This is not a good thing, for party unity, or for Democrats winning.

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Joy Reid trashed a person for being an "elder" "white" "man" (Original post)	Vidal	May 2019	OP
I think your tail is wagging the dog. nt	fleabiscuit	May 2019	#1
Reading comprehension much?	jberryhill	May 2019	#2
That's how I interpreted Joy's statement... seems pretty clear to me.	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2019	#10
Condescending much. nt	UniteFightBack	May 2019	#29
Very much, yes	jberryhill	May 2019	#33
she's not trashing Biden for being an "elder" "white" "man"	fishwax	May 2019	#3
Exactly. nt	dflprincess	May 2019	#5
why should I care?	stillcool	May 2019	#4
Wow - you sound so pro-biden? or pro-sanders? don't think anyone who	Laura PourMeADrink	May 2019	#6
You left out the part where she trashed anyone for being an elder white man	EffieBlack	May 2019	#7
Hey Effie, wanna look up her history with gay people?	cwydro	May 2019	#16
I'm well aware of comments she's made in the past about gay people	EffieBlack	May 2019	#19
She's a bigoted ass. That's what is has to do with it.	cwydro	May 2019	#20
Misleading OP title	uponit7771	May 2019	#8
Her point is that if we need Trump voters, Biden's demographic is a positive.	Nitram	May 2019	#9
that's.....really not her point at all	Skittles	May 2019	#13
I beg to differ. How do you interpret the meaning of "Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors'	Nitram	May 2019	#37
she's referring to the reason people are backing Biden	Skittles	May 2019	#38
that's exactly what I wrote in my post. Just because he might be able to get some votes from Trump	Nitram	May 2019	#40
yes....as I said, proof she is correct	Skittles	May 2019	#41
No, you wrote in your post I had missed her point entirely.	Nitram	May 2019	#44
sorry, there are others who misinterpreted her remarks	Skittles	May 2019	#45
Nonsense.	mahina	May 2019	#11
that's not what she is doing AT ALL	Skittles	May 2019	#12
My mistake	Vidal	May 2019	#14
Nope, you didn't.	cwydro	May 2019	#22
You could edit it in the OP, Vidal.	Cha	May 2019	#25
Joy doesn't care much for us gay folks either.	cwydro	May 2019	#15
I am not a big fan either	Skittles	May 2019	#31
She maybe was ageist and sexist.	Blue_true	May 2019	#17
She's also homophobic.	cwydro	May 2019	#21
I am uninformed on that. Can you give examples?	Blue_true	May 2019	#23
Google it. I was a fan of hers before I read her comments on those of us born gay.	cwydro	May 2019	#24
I remember that	Skittles	May 2019	#32
Wut?	jcgoldie	May 2019	#18
Reid is disingenuously insulting Biden	Cha	May 2019	#26
Put that eloquently and nailed exactly what she is up to.	emmaverybo	May 2019	#51
She sure is. Tuned her out long ago	True Blue American	May 2019	#53
No she did not. Read the sentence. She is talking about people who have	wasupaloopa	May 2019	#27
Got NEWS for ya Joy...Black folks are supporting BIDEN...DUH or else his poll numbers would not	UniteFightBack	May 2019	#28
She isn't trashing someone for being an elder white man, she's trashing Dems who are afraid their	RockRaven	May 2019	#30
She said "white"	EffieBlack	May 2019	#39
+1	JustAnotherGen	May 2019	#54
Imo. part of the problem is that younger people can't be bothered to vote.	Oneironaut	May 2019	#34
that has always been the case	Skittles	May 2019	#46
Pretty poor choice of words by Joy.	OnDoutside	May 2019	#35
Read the other replies above. nt	LAS14	May 2019	#43
I've read the other replies and Reid is	Cha	May 2019	#48
Yes, broadbrushing Biden Supporters and	Cha	May 2019	#47
Hi Cha !	OnDoutside	May 2019	#49
Yeah!	Cha	May 2019	#50
...	LexVegas	May 2019	#36
The sky is falling!!!!!!	H2O Man	May 2019	#42
I quit watching Joy long ago because she is so biased.	True Blue American	May 2019	#52
Reid is sometimes guilty of being too	DeminPennswoods	May 2019	#55
That's not what she was saying... BUT	DasMadchen	May 2019	#56
LOL	Vidal	May 2019	#58
can you say mondale?	pansypoo53219	May 2019	#57
She isn't all that keen on gay people either.	yardwork	May 2019	#59

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:58 PM

fleabiscuit (4,459 posts)

1. I think your tail is wagging the dog. nt

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:58 PM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

2. Reading comprehension much?

It appears you do not understand the sentence in which the phrase appears.

She refers to Democrats who are “fearful of their Trumpy neighbors' aversion to anything but an elder white man.”

I realize it is kind of a long sentence, but the reference is to prejudice on the part of Trump supporters, and is not an expression of a prejudice she holds.

This is just sad, really.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:29 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (23,116 posts)

10. That's how I interpreted Joy's statement... seems pretty clear to me.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Thu May 30, 2019, 12:03 AM

UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)

29. Condescending much. nt

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #29)

Thu May 30, 2019, 05:17 AM

jberryhill (62,444 posts)

33. Very much, yes

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:59 PM

fishwax (28,490 posts)

3. she's not trashing Biden for being an "elder" "white" "man"

I don't think that's a credible interpretation of her tweet at all.

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Response to fishwax (Reply #3)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:00 PM

dflprincess (25,562 posts)

5. Exactly. nt

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:59 PM

stillcool (30,051 posts)

4. why should I care?

Is Joy Reid running for something? I can't believe how worked up people get by their entertainment choices.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:03 PM

Laura PourMeADrink (34,172 posts)

6. Wow - you sound so pro-biden? or pro-sanders? don't think anyone who

supports a young person would bring this trivia up? I am a Biden supporter - but Beto sure does look appealing. He stood up today and said - Do what is right - no matter what the political consequences are...IMPEACH. Same with WARREN - she spoke from her heart from the very beginning.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:20 PM

EffieBlack (14,205 posts)

7. You left out the part where she trashed anyone for being an elder white man

Would you please post that part so we'll know what you're talking about?

Thanks.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #7)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:04 PM

cwydro (40,543 posts)

16. Hey Effie, wanna look up her history with gay people?

Nah, thinking you won’t.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #16)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

EffieBlack (14,205 posts)

19. I'm well aware of comments she's made in the past about gay people

What does that have to do with the fact that the OP claimed she trashed older white men and, as proof, posted a tweet that did nothing of the kind?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #19)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:37 PM

cwydro (40,543 posts)

20. She's a bigoted ass. That's what is has to do with it.

But you’re all cool with that because you have no idea how gay people feel about those who are prejudiced toward us.

How bout if she was a white person making those same comments about black people? Nah, not important right?

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:21 PM

uponit7771 (72,097 posts)

8. Misleading OP title

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:25 PM

Nitram (15,412 posts)

9. Her point is that if we need Trump voters, Biden's demographic is a positive.

That may be true. Either way, I think she is making a valid point whether I agree with her not. I'll vote for Biden if he is the candidate, but I'm still considering others in the field as well.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #9)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:59 PM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

13. that's.....really not her point at all

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Response to Skittles (Reply #13)

Thu May 30, 2019, 03:58 PM

Nitram (15,412 posts)

37. I beg to differ. How do you interpret the meaning of "Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors'

aversion to anything but an elder white man."

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Response to Nitram (Reply #37)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:02 PM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

38. she's referring to the reason people are backing Biden

not so much because of what he stands for or his accomplishments, but because they see him as someone who can beat Trump (old, white, male)....not exactly a ringing endorsement

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Response to Skittles (Reply #38)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:06 PM

Nitram (15,412 posts)

40. that's exactly what I wrote in my post. Just because he might be able to get some votes from Trump

supporters doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have good policies. Did you actually read my post?

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Response to Nitram (Reply #40)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:07 PM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

41. yes....as I said, proof she is correct

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Response to Skittles (Reply #41)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:20 PM

Nitram (15,412 posts)

44. No, you wrote in your post I had missed her point entirely.

Now you say "yes." What IS your point?

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Response to Nitram (Reply #44)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:34 PM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

45. sorry, there are others who misinterpreted her remarks

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=135824

DONE here, this is pointless

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:43 PM

mahina (12,411 posts)

11. Nonsense.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:58 PM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

12. that's not what she is doing AT ALL

she's pointing out FACTS

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:59 PM

Vidal (642 posts)

14. My mistake

I guess I interpreted this wrong.

Sorry.

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Response to Vidal (Reply #14)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:40 PM

cwydro (40,543 posts)

22. Nope, you didn't.

Joy is a known homophobe. Apparently she has some other prejudices too.

Many people know this about her.

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Response to Vidal (Reply #14)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:05 PM

Cha (264,787 posts)

25. You could edit it in the OP, Vidal.

So people won't keep getting the wrong interpretation.

She was disingenuously insulting Biden Supporters, though.. there's a long thread about it in DP..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=135099

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:02 PM

cwydro (40,543 posts)

15. Joy doesn't care much for us gay folks either.

I don’t care much for her.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #15)

Thu May 30, 2019, 02:41 AM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

31. I am not a big fan either

but she's not "trashing old white guys" here

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:12 PM

Blue_true (27,956 posts)

17. She maybe was ageist and sexist.

But she was not racist. Her alternatives included younger White men and the White women's in the primary race.

The fact is, she is speaking reality. President Obama was always weakest with elderly Whites, even when in both cases he was by far the superior choice.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #17)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:38 PM

cwydro (40,543 posts)

21. She's also homophobic.

I have no time for her.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #21)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:50 PM

Blue_true (27,956 posts)

23. I am uninformed on that. Can you give examples?

I think being homophobic is disqualifying.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:00 PM

cwydro (40,543 posts)

24. Google it. I was a fan of hers before I read her comments on those of us born gay.

She’ never apologized. She even tried to say her account was hacked, but that was proven wrong.

She said she was getting the FBI to look into who hacked her. Ha. Never heard nothing more about that. Because that was bullshit.

I can forgive people who admit they have evolved etc., She just denied the whole thing, but it’s clear what she said and who she is.

Not being snarky to tell you to google it. Just much more info available than I could post here.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #24)

Thu May 30, 2019, 02:42 AM

Skittles (132,029 posts)

32. I remember that

it's just kind of.....went away

I have not forgotten.....to me, that is a kind of character-defining moment

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:20 PM

jcgoldie (6,660 posts)

18. Wut?

The evidence you present does not match your thesis. Not at all.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:24 PM

Cha (264,787 posts)

26. Reid is disingenuously insulting Biden

supporters and I told her so.

She has no idea..

Link to tweet

Among those who say they're paying a lot of attention, he leads Sanders and Warren 42% - 8% - 15%.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287129464
**SC Poll** Sanders Falls To Fifth! Biden 42% Harris 10% Buttigieg 8% Warren 8% Sanders 7%

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287126914

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Response to Cha (Reply #26)

Fri May 31, 2019, 02:10 AM

emmaverybo (7,893 posts)

51. Put that eloquently and nailed exactly what she is up to.

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Response to Cha (Reply #26)

Fri May 31, 2019, 03:00 AM

True Blue American (12,461 posts)

53. She sure is. Tuned her out long ago

And Chris Hayes drives me nuts.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:41 PM

wasupaloopa (4,516 posts)

27. No she did not. Read the sentence. She is talking about people who have

an aversion to any candidate that isn’t an elder white man.

I think this kind of over dramatizing OP is just fun for some people. They just want to stir up a long nothing debate about nothing. And those who accepted the OP as fact because they say she is anti gay are not helping get to reality.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:59 PM

UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)

28. Got NEWS for ya Joy...Black folks are supporting BIDEN...DUH or else his poll numbers would not

look like that. It's pretty OBVIOUS that Joy does not want Biden. She wants a black person or a woman.

Anyone who watches her show (like me faithfully) KNOWS this already no matter what her tweet says.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 01:15 AM

RockRaven (6,926 posts)

30. She isn't trashing someone for being an elder white man, she's trashing Dems who are afraid their

friends and neighbors won't vote for anyone except an elder white man. You know, based on... almost their entire life's experience. A little thing like that.

Here's a reality check for you: she's correct that a lot of Dem primary voters are f-ing terrified if they vote for Pete/Kamala/Amy/Cory/etc that they will be helping Trump get a second term, which will ensure our 3-branch constitutional republic with rule of law goes the way of the dodo...

She is both right and wrong. She is RIGHT that people ARE concerned about their f-ing moronic friends' and neighbors' voting habits. She is WRONG in her insinuation that people SHOULD NOT be concerned about their f-ing moronic friends' and neighbors' voting habits. Welcome to America, this s**t is complicated and blind idealists shoot themselves in the foot as often as not.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #30)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:03 PM

EffieBlack (14,205 posts)

39. She said "white"

That's a trigger around here ...

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #39)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:40 AM

JustAnotherGen (27,212 posts)

54. +1

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:25 AM

Oneironaut (3,769 posts)

34. Imo. part of the problem is that younger people can't be bothered to vote.

Boomers and older are the biggest voters (despite Millennials almost equaling Baby Boomers in eligibility to vote). We would have more diversity and better candidates if a more diverse portion of American society voted.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #34)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:37 PM

Skittles (132,029 posts)