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Vidal

(642 posts)
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:52 PM May 2019

Joy Reid trashed a person for being an "elder" "white" "man"

Why is it OK for her to discriminate on the basis of age, race and sex?

Why is she hating on Baby Boomers.

This is not a good thing, for party unity, or for Democrats winning.


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Joy Reid trashed a person for being an "elder" "white" "man" (Original Post) Vidal May 2019 OP
I think your tail is wagging the dog. nt fleabiscuit May 2019 #1
Reading comprehension much? jberryhill May 2019 #2
That's how I interpreted Joy's statement... seems pretty clear to me. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #10
Condescending much. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #29
Very much, yes jberryhill May 2019 #33
she's not trashing Biden for being an "elder" "white" "man" fishwax May 2019 #3
Exactly. nt dflprincess May 2019 #5
why should I care? stillcool May 2019 #4
Wow - you sound so pro-biden? or pro-sanders? don't think anyone who Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #6
You left out the part where she trashed anyone for being an elder white man EffieBlack May 2019 #7
Hey Effie, wanna look up her history with gay people? cwydro May 2019 #16
I'm well aware of comments she's made in the past about gay people EffieBlack May 2019 #19
She's a bigoted ass. That's what is has to do with it. cwydro May 2019 #20
Misleading OP title uponit7771 May 2019 #8
Her point is that if we need Trump voters, Biden's demographic is a positive. Nitram May 2019 #9
that's.....really not her point at all Skittles May 2019 #13
I beg to differ. How do you interpret the meaning of "Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors' Nitram May 2019 #37
she's referring to the reason people are backing Biden Skittles May 2019 #38
that's exactly what I wrote in my post. Just because he might be able to get some votes from Trump Nitram May 2019 #40
yes....as I said, proof she is correct Skittles May 2019 #41
No, you wrote in your post I had missed her point entirely. Nitram May 2019 #44
sorry, there are others who misinterpreted her remarks Skittles May 2019 #45
Nonsense. mahina May 2019 #11
that's not what she is doing *AT ALL* Skittles May 2019 #12
My mistake Vidal May 2019 #14
Nope, you didn't. cwydro May 2019 #22
You could edit it in the OP, Vidal. Cha May 2019 #25
Joy doesn't care much for us gay folks either. cwydro May 2019 #15
I am not a big fan either Skittles May 2019 #31
She maybe was ageist and sexist. Blue_true May 2019 #17
She's also homophobic. cwydro May 2019 #21
I am uninformed on that. Can you give examples? Blue_true May 2019 #23
Google it. I was a fan of hers before I read her comments on those of us born gay. cwydro May 2019 #24
I remember that Skittles May 2019 #32
Wut? jcgoldie May 2019 #18
Reid is disingenuously insulting Biden Cha May 2019 #26
Put that eloquently and nailed exactly what she is up to. emmaverybo May 2019 #51
She sure is. Tuned her out long ago True Blue American May 2019 #53
No she did not. Read the sentence. She is talking about people who have wasupaloopa May 2019 #27
Got NEWS for ya Joy...Black folks are supporting BIDEN...DUH or else his poll numbers would not UniteFightBack May 2019 #28
She isn't trashing someone for being an elder white man, she's trashing Dems who are afraid their RockRaven May 2019 #30
She said "white" EffieBlack May 2019 #39
+1 JustAnotherGen May 2019 #54
Imo. part of the problem is that younger people can't be bothered to vote. Oneironaut May 2019 #34
that has always been the case Skittles May 2019 #46
Pretty poor choice of words by Joy. OnDoutside May 2019 #35
Read the other replies above. nt LAS14 May 2019 #43
I've read the other replies and Reid is Cha May 2019 #48
Yes, broadbrushing Biden Supporters and Cha May 2019 #47
Hi Cha ! OnDoutside May 2019 #49
Yeah! Cha May 2019 #50
... LexVegas May 2019 #36
The sky is falling!!!!!! H2O Man May 2019 #42
I quit watching Joy long ago because she is so biased. True Blue American May 2019 #52
Reid is sometimes guilty of being too DeminPennswoods May 2019 #55
That's not what she was saying... BUT DasMadchen May 2019 #56
LOL Vidal May 2019 #58
can you say mondale? pansypoo53219 May 2019 #57
She isn't all that keen on gay people either. yardwork May 2019 #59
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Reading comprehension much?
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:58 PM
May 2019

It appears you do not understand the sentence in which the phrase appears.

She refers to Democrats who are “fearful of their Trumpy neighbors' aversion to anything but an elder white man.”

I realize it is kind of a long sentence, but the reference is to prejudice on the part of Trump supporters, and is not an expression of a prejudice she holds.

This is just sad, really.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,095 posts)
10. That's how I interpreted Joy's statement... seems pretty clear to me.
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:29 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

fishwax

(29,144 posts)
3. she's not trashing Biden for being an "elder" "white" "man"
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:59 PM
May 2019

I don't think that's a credible interpretation of her tweet at all.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
4. why should I care?
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:59 PM
May 2019

Is Joy Reid running for something? I can't believe how worked up people get by their entertainment choices.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Wow - you sound so pro-biden? or pro-sanders? don't think anyone who
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:03 PM
May 2019

supports a young person would bring this trivia up? I am a Biden supporter - but Beto sure does look appealing. He stood up today and said - Do what is right - no matter what the political consequences are...IMPEACH. Same with WARREN - she spoke from her heart from the very beginning.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
7. You left out the part where she trashed anyone for being an elder white man
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:20 PM
May 2019

Would you please post that part so we'll know what you're talking about?

Thanks.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
19. I'm well aware of comments she's made in the past about gay people
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:31 PM
May 2019

What does that have to do with the fact that the OP claimed she trashed older white men and, as proof, posted a tweet that did nothing of the kind?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. She's a bigoted ass. That's what is has to do with it.
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:37 PM
May 2019

But you’re all cool with that because you have no idea how gay people feel about those who are prejudiced toward us.

How bout if she was a white person making those same comments about black people? Nah, not important right?

Nitram

(22,526 posts)
9. Her point is that if we need Trump voters, Biden's demographic is a positive.
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:25 PM
May 2019

That may be true. Either way, I think she is making a valid point whether I agree with her not. I'll vote for Biden if he is the candidate, but I'm still considering others in the field as well.

Nitram

(22,526 posts)
37. I beg to differ. How do you interpret the meaning of "Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors'
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:58 PM
May 2019

aversion to anything but an elder white man."

Skittles

(152,855 posts)
38. she's referring to the reason people are backing Biden
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:02 PM
May 2019

not so much because of what he stands for or his accomplishments, but because they see him as someone who can beat Trump (old, white, male)....not exactly a ringing endorsement

Nitram

(22,526 posts)
40. that's exactly what I wrote in my post. Just because he might be able to get some votes from Trump
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:06 PM
May 2019

supporters doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have good policies. Did you actually read my post?

Nitram

(22,526 posts)
44. No, you wrote in your post I had missed her point entirely.
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:20 PM
May 2019

Now you say "yes." What IS your point?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Nope, you didn't.
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:40 PM
May 2019

Joy is a known homophobe. Apparently she has some other prejudices too.

Many people know this about her.

Cha

(294,696 posts)
25. You could edit it in the OP, Vidal.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:05 PM
May 2019

So people won't keep getting the wrong interpretation.

She was disingenuously insulting Biden Supporters, though.. there's a long thread about it in DP..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=135099

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. She maybe was ageist and sexist.
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:12 PM
May 2019

But she was not racist. Her alternatives included younger White men and the White women's in the primary race.

The fact is, she is speaking reality. President Obama was always weakest with elderly Whites, even when in both cases he was by far the superior choice.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. Google it. I was a fan of hers before I read her comments on those of us born gay.
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:00 PM
May 2019

She’ never apologized. She even tried to say her account was hacked, but that was proven wrong.

She said she was getting the FBI to look into who hacked her. Ha. Never heard nothing more about that. Because that was bullshit.

I can forgive people who admit they have evolved etc., She just denied the whole thing, but it’s clear what she said and who she is.

Not being snarky to tell you to google it. Just much more info available than I could post here.

Skittles

(152,855 posts)
32. I remember that
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:42 AM
May 2019

it's just kind of.....went away

I have not forgotten.....to me, that is a kind of character-defining moment

Cha

(294,696 posts)
26. Reid is disingenuously insulting Biden
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:24 PM
May 2019

supporters and I told her so.

She has no idea..



Among those who say they're paying a lot of attention, he leads Sanders and Warren 42% - 8% - 15%.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287129464
**SC Poll** Sanders Falls To Fifth! Biden 42% Harris 10% Buttigieg 8% Warren 8% Sanders 7%

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287126914
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
27. No she did not. Read the sentence. She is talking about people who have
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:41 PM
May 2019

an aversion to any candidate that isn’t an elder white man.

I think this kind of over dramatizing OP is just fun for some people. They just want to stir up a long nothing debate about nothing. And those who accepted the OP as fact because they say she is anti gay are not helping get to reality.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
28. Got NEWS for ya Joy...Black folks are supporting BIDEN...DUH or else his poll numbers would not
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:59 PM
May 2019

look like that. It's pretty OBVIOUS that Joy does not want Biden. She wants a black person or a woman.

Anyone who watches her show (like me faithfully) KNOWS this already no matter what her tweet says.

RockRaven

(14,608 posts)
30. She isn't trashing someone for being an elder white man, she's trashing Dems who are afraid their
Thu May 30, 2019, 01:15 AM
May 2019

friends and neighbors won't vote for anyone except an elder white man. You know, based on... almost their entire life's experience. A little thing like that.

Here's a reality check for you: she's correct that a lot of Dem primary voters are f-ing terrified if they vote for Pete/Kamala/Amy/Cory/etc that they will be helping Trump get a second term, which will ensure our 3-branch constitutional republic with rule of law goes the way of the dodo...

She is both right and wrong. She is RIGHT that people ARE concerned about their f-ing moronic friends' and neighbors' voting habits. She is WRONG in her insinuation that people SHOULD NOT be concerned about their f-ing moronic friends' and neighbors' voting habits. Welcome to America, this s**t is complicated and blind idealists shoot themselves in the foot as often as not.

Oneironaut

(5,400 posts)
34. Imo. part of the problem is that younger people can't be bothered to vote.
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:25 AM
May 2019


Boomers and older are the biggest voters (despite Millennials almost equaling Baby Boomers in eligibility to vote). We would have more diversity and better candidates if a more diverse portion of American society voted.

Skittles

(152,855 posts)
46. that has always been the case
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:37 PM
May 2019

I just don't think Millennials can afford to be as blase about voting as previous generations have been

DeminPennswoods

(15,231 posts)
55. Reid is sometimes guilty of being too
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:02 AM
May 2019

much of a wise guy, imho, and that kind of sarcasm doesn't always come off as intended when written.

 

DasMadchen

(19 posts)
56. That's not what she was saying... BUT
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:23 AM
May 2019

That's what I say.... absolutely NO to old, straight, white men.

They've had their chances and screwed everything up. Now, it's time to fix it...

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
58. LOL
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:08 AM
May 2019

Don't hold back!

My basic point is that it's dangerous to start opposing candidates due to their sex and race.

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