Wed May 29, 2019, 09:52 PM
Vidal (642 posts)
Joy Reid trashed a person for being an "elder" "white" "man"
Why is it OK for her to discriminate on the basis of age, race and sex?
Why is she hating on Baby Boomers. This is not a good thing, for party unity, or for Democrats winning. Link to tweet
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Vidal | May 2019 | OP |
fleabiscuit | May 2019 | #1 | |
jberryhill | May 2019 | #2 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | May 2019 | #10 | |
UniteFightBack | May 2019 | #29 | |
jberryhill | May 2019 | #33 | |
fishwax | May 2019 | #3 | |
dflprincess | May 2019 | #5 | |
stillcool | May 2019 | #4 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | May 2019 | #6 | |
EffieBlack | May 2019 | #7 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #16 | |
EffieBlack | May 2019 | #19 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #20 | |
uponit7771 | May 2019 | #8 | |
Nitram | May 2019 | #9 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #13 | |
Nitram | May 2019 | #37 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #38 | |
Nitram | May 2019 | #40 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #41 | |
Nitram | May 2019 | #44 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #45 | |
mahina | May 2019 | #11 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #12 | |
Vidal | May 2019 | #14 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #22 | |
Cha | May 2019 | #25 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #15 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #31 | |
Blue_true | May 2019 | #17 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #21 | |
Blue_true | May 2019 | #23 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #24 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #32 | |
jcgoldie | May 2019 | #18 | |
Cha | May 2019 | #26 | |
emmaverybo | May 2019 | #51 | |
True Blue American | May 2019 | #53 | |
wasupaloopa | May 2019 | #27 | |
UniteFightBack | May 2019 | #28 | |
RockRaven | May 2019 | #30 | |
EffieBlack | May 2019 | #39 | |
JustAnotherGen | May 2019 | #54 | |
Oneironaut | May 2019 | #34 | |
Skittles | May 2019 | #46 | |
OnDoutside | May 2019 | #35 | |
LAS14 | May 2019 | #43 | |
Cha | May 2019 | #48 | |
Cha | May 2019 | #47 | |
OnDoutside | May 2019 | #49 | |
Cha | May 2019 | #50 | |
LexVegas | May 2019 | #36 | |
H2O Man | May 2019 | #42 | |
True Blue American | May 2019 | #52 | |
DeminPennswoods | May 2019 | #55 | |
DasMadchen | May 2019 | #56 | |
Vidal | May 2019 | #58 | |
pansypoo53219 | May 2019 | #57 | |
yardwork | May 2019 | #59 |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:58 PM
fleabiscuit (4,498 posts)
1. I think your tail is wagging the dog. nt
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:58 PM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
2. Reading comprehension much?
It appears you do not understand the sentence in which the phrase appears.
She refers to Democrats who are “fearful of their Trumpy neighbors' aversion to anything but an elder white man.” I realize it is kind of a long sentence, but the reference is to prejudice on the part of Trump supporters, and is not an expression of a prejudice she holds. This is just sad, really. |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:29 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,720 posts)
10. That's how I interpreted Joy's statement... seems pretty clear to me.
![]() Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! Welcome to the revolution!!! |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)
Thu May 30, 2019, 01:03 AM
UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)
29. Condescending much. nt
Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #29)
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:17 AM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
33. Very much, yes
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:59 PM
fishwax (28,969 posts)
3. she's not trashing Biden for being an "elder" "white" "man"
I don't think that's a credible interpretation of her tweet at all.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:59 PM
stillcool (32,600 posts)
4. why should I care?
Is Joy Reid running for something? I can't believe how worked up people get by their entertainment choices.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:03 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (38,967 posts)
6. Wow - you sound so pro-biden? or pro-sanders? don't think anyone who
supports a young person would bring this trivia up? I am a Biden supporter - but Beto sure does look appealing. He stood up today and said - Do what is right - no matter what the political consequences are...IMPEACH. Same with WARREN - she spoke from her heart from the very beginning.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:20 PM
EffieBlack (14,249 posts)
7. You left out the part where she trashed anyone for being an elder white man
Would you please post that part so we'll know what you're talking about?
Thanks. |
Response to EffieBlack (Reply #7)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:04 PM
cwydro (46,954 posts)
16. Hey Effie, wanna look up her history with gay people?
Nah, thinking you won’t.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #16)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:31 PM
EffieBlack (14,249 posts)
19. I'm well aware of comments she's made in the past about gay people
What does that have to do with the fact that the OP claimed she trashed older white men and, as proof, posted a tweet that did nothing of the kind?
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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #19)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:37 PM
cwydro (46,954 posts)
20. She's a bigoted ass. That's what is has to do with it.
But you’re all cool with that because you have no idea how gay people feel about those who are prejudiced toward us.
How bout if she was a white person making those same comments about black people? Nah, not important right? |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:21 PM
uponit7771 (86,760 posts)
8. Misleading OP title
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:25 PM
Nitram (18,753 posts)
9. Her point is that if we need Trump voters, Biden's demographic is a positive.
That may be true. Either way, I think she is making a valid point whether I agree with her not. I'll vote for Biden if he is the candidate, but I'm still considering others in the field as well.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #9)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:59 PM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
13. that's.....really not her point at all
Response to Skittles (Reply #13)
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:58 PM
Nitram (18,753 posts)
37. I beg to differ. How do you interpret the meaning of "Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors'
aversion to anything but an elder white man."
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Response to Nitram (Reply #37)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:02 PM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
38. she's referring to the reason people are backing Biden
not so much because of what he stands for or his accomplishments, but because they see him as someone who can beat Trump (old, white, male)....not exactly a ringing endorsement
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Response to Skittles (Reply #38)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:06 PM
Nitram (18,753 posts)
40. that's exactly what I wrote in my post. Just because he might be able to get some votes from Trump
supporters doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have good policies. Did you actually read my post?
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Response to Nitram (Reply #40)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:07 PM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
41. yes....as I said, proof she is correct
Response to Skittles (Reply #41)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:20 PM
Nitram (18,753 posts)
44. No, you wrote in your post I had missed her point entirely.
Now you say "yes." What IS your point?
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Response to Nitram (Reply #44)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:34 PM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
45. sorry, there are others who misinterpreted her remarks
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=135824
DONE here, this is pointless |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:58 PM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
12. that's not what she is doing *AT ALL*
she's pointing out FACTS
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:59 PM
Vidal (642 posts)
14. My mistake
I guess I interpreted this wrong.
Sorry. |
Response to Vidal (Reply #14)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:40 PM
cwydro (46,954 posts)
22. Nope, you didn't.
Joy is a known homophobe. Apparently she has some other prejudices too.
Many people know this about her. |
Response to Vidal (Reply #14)
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:05 AM
Cha (277,559 posts)
25. You could edit it in the OP, Vidal.
So people won't keep getting the wrong interpretation.
She was disingenuously insulting Biden Supporters, though.. there's a long thread about it in DP.. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=135099 |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:02 PM
cwydro (46,954 posts)
15. Joy doesn't care much for us gay folks either.
I don’t care much for her.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #15)
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:41 AM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
31. I am not a big fan either
but she's not "trashing old white guys" here
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:12 PM
Blue_true (31,259 posts)
17. She maybe was ageist and sexist.
But she was not racist. Her alternatives included younger White men and the White women's in the primary race.
The fact is, she is speaking reality. President Obama was always weakest with elderly Whites, even when in both cases he was by far the superior choice. |
Response to Blue_true (Reply #17)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:38 PM
cwydro (46,954 posts)
21. She's also homophobic.
I have no time for her.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #21)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:50 PM
Blue_true (31,259 posts)
23. I am uninformed on that. Can you give examples?
I think being homophobic is disqualifying.
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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:00 AM
cwydro (46,954 posts)
24. Google it. I was a fan of hers before I read her comments on those of us born gay.
She’ never apologized. She even tried to say her account was hacked, but that was proven wrong.
She said she was getting the FBI to look into who hacked her. Ha. Never heard nothing more about that. Because that was bullshit. I can forgive people who admit they have evolved etc., She just denied the whole thing, but it’s clear what she said and who she is. Not being snarky to tell you to google it. Just much more info available than I could post here. |
Response to cwydro (Reply #24)
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:42 AM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
32. I remember that
it's just kind of.....went away
I have not forgotten.....to me, that is a kind of character-defining moment |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Wed May 29, 2019, 11:20 PM
jcgoldie (9,162 posts)
18. Wut?
The evidence you present does not match your thesis. Not at all.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:24 AM
Cha (277,559 posts)
26. Reid is disingenuously insulting Biden
supporters and I told her so.
She has no idea.. Link to tweet Among those who say they're paying a lot of attention, he leads Sanders and Warren 42% - 8% - 15%.
![]() **SC Poll** Sanders Falls To Fifth! Biden 42% Harris 10% Buttigieg 8% Warren 8% Sanders 7% ![]() |
Response to Cha (Reply #26)
Fri May 31, 2019, 03:10 AM
emmaverybo (8,138 posts)
51. Put that eloquently and nailed exactly what she is up to.
Response to Cha (Reply #26)
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:00 AM
True Blue American (15,497 posts)
53. She sure is. Tuned her out long ago
And Chris Hayes drives me nuts.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:41 AM
wasupaloopa (4,516 posts)
27. No she did not. Read the sentence. She is talking about people who have
an aversion to any candidate that isn’t an elder white man.
I think this kind of over dramatizing OP is just fun for some people. They just want to stir up a long nothing debate about nothing. And those who accepted the OP as fact because they say she is anti gay are not helping get to reality. |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 12:59 AM
UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)
28. Got NEWS for ya Joy...Black folks are supporting BIDEN...DUH or else his poll numbers would not
look like that. It's pretty OBVIOUS that Joy does not want Biden. She wants a black person or a woman.
Anyone who watches her show (like me faithfully) KNOWS this already no matter what her tweet says. |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 02:15 AM
RockRaven (10,849 posts)
30. She isn't trashing someone for being an elder white man, she's trashing Dems who are afraid their
friends and neighbors won't vote for anyone except an elder white man. You know, based on... almost their entire life's experience. A little thing like that.
Here's a reality check for you: she's correct that a lot of Dem primary voters are f-ing terrified if they vote for Pete/Kamala/Amy/Cory/etc that they will be helping Trump get a second term, which will ensure our 3-branch constitutional republic with rule of law goes the way of the dodo... She is both right and wrong. She is RIGHT that people ARE concerned about their f-ing moronic friends' and neighbors' voting habits. She is WRONG in her insinuation that people SHOULD NOT be concerned about their f-ing moronic friends' and neighbors' voting habits. Welcome to America, this s**t is complicated and blind idealists shoot themselves in the foot as often as not. |
Response to RockRaven (Reply #30)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:03 PM
EffieBlack (14,249 posts)
39. She said "white"
That's a trigger around here ...
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:25 AM
Oneironaut (4,253 posts)
34. Imo. part of the problem is that younger people can't be bothered to vote.
![]() Boomers and older are the biggest voters (despite Millennials almost equaling Baby Boomers in eligibility to vote). We would have more diversity and better candidates if a more diverse portion of American society voted. |
Response to Oneironaut (Reply #34)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:37 PM
Skittles (144,668 posts)
46. that has always been the case
I just don't think Millennials can afford to be as blase about voting as previous generations have been
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:45 AM
OnDoutside (19,296 posts)
35. Pretty poor choice of words by Joy.
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #35)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:16 PM
LAS14 (12,289 posts)
43. Read the other replies above. nt
Response to LAS14 (Reply #43)
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:32 PM
Cha (277,559 posts)
48. I've read the other replies and Reid is
insultingly wrong.
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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #35)
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:31 PM
Cha (277,559 posts)
47. Yes, broadbrushing Biden Supporters and
insulting them simultaneously.
Thank You, OnDoutside! |
Response to Cha (Reply #47)
Fri May 31, 2019, 02:40 AM
OnDoutside (19,296 posts)
49. Hi Cha !
Yes, I like Joy but she could sometimes choose her words a little better.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:13 PM
H2O Man (68,955 posts)
42. The sky is falling!!!!!!
Response to H2O Man (Reply #42)
Fri May 31, 2019, 03:58 AM
True Blue American (15,497 posts)
52. I quit watching Joy long ago because she is so biased.
Make of it what you will. Joy is boring.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:02 AM
DeminPennswoods (14,100 posts)
55. Reid is sometimes guilty of being too
much of a wise guy, imho, and that kind of sarcasm doesn't always come off as intended when written.
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Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:23 AM
DasMadchen (19 posts)
56. That's not what she was saying... BUT
That's what I say.... absolutely NO to old, straight, white men.
They've had their chances and screwed everything up. Now, it's time to fix it... |
Response to DasMadchen (Reply #56)
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:08 AM
Vidal (642 posts)
58. LOL
Don't hold back!
My basic point is that it's dangerous to start opposing candidates due to their sex and race. |
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:57 AM
pansypoo53219 (19,570 posts)
57. can you say mondale?
Response to Vidal (Original post)
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:16 AM
yardwork (54,589 posts)