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LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:10 AM May 2019

The Right's narrative is changing after Mueller's statement yesterday.

1) "tHe RuSshEr ThInG iS a CoMpLeTe hoKeS".

I doubt that we will be hearing that the "Russia investigation was a complete hoax started by 12 angry Democrats" too much anymore.

2) "Completely exonerated" seems to be changing to "innocent until proven guilty".

Give it a few days. I think that Trump was severely injured yesterday by Mueller's statement. And yes, I realize that all of this was in Mueller's report, but it somehow took hearing it from his lips to make a difference.

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The Right's narrative is changing after Mueller's statement yesterday. (Original Post) LuckyCharms May 2019 OP
Insufficient Evidence True Blue American May 2019 #1
Lol. Like saying I did it but you can't prove it. KPN May 2019 #5
Insufficient evidence because Trump obstructed the investigation sop May 2019 #9
Yes! Exactly -- that's the talking point Dems need KPN May 2019 #10
+1 uponit7771 May 2019 #20
Bingo! We have a winner. SergeStorms May 2019 #41
That's the plan, and the coverup is still in motion. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #44
Could not happen too soon! True Blue American May 2019 #30
He should have kept his mouth shut because it sounds like a confession. cstanleytech May 2019 #31
I just caught some insight on CSPAN's Washington Journal. Vinca May 2019 #2
I watched a couple of mornings this week. True Blue American May 2019 #32
Like death masks. Harker May 2019 #38
And they got Trump the stable genius C_U_L8R May 2019 #3
yup bdamomma May 2019 #11
Tiny hands near gone. Cracklin Charlie May 2019 #28
Upraised cuffs. Harker May 2019 #40
Their narrative changes constantly to adjust for the latest disclosures Dread Pirate Roberts May 2019 #4
"took hearing it from his lips to make a difference" Perseus May 2019 #6
+1, dems were caught flat footed on the level of crimes that came out of the report uponit7771 May 2019 #17
I remain very disappointed in the poor reporting on this from the beginning. yardwork May 2019 #7
+1 uponit7771 May 2019 #18
+1000 Cetacea May 2019 #24
From JHB's cartoon thread malaise May 2019 #8
so true. bdamomma May 2019 #12
+1 uponit7771 May 2019 #15
All we have seen so far watoos May 2019 #13
K&R, Watched FAUX News for 3 hours yesterday and they could NOT dispute what Mueller said uponit7771 May 2019 #14
I hope you are correct. I hear no evidence of it. sarabelle May 2019 #16
Your post is right on except, pazzyanne May 2019 #19
I'll get the feathers. Meet you back here ASAP. flying_wahini May 2019 #22
Game on! pazzyanne May 2019 #25
Should we bring... cannabis_flower May 2019 #36
Trump just doubled down on the Witch Hunt eom Cetacea May 2019 #21
Yes, just saw that. But like I said, give it a few days. LuckyCharms May 2019 #23
He should be impeached just for failing to do anything about an attack on our country Cetacea May 2019 #26
Agree 100%. That one issue, among thousands of issues... LuckyCharms May 2019 #27
Indeed. That goes beyond criminal charges. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #45
2) "Completely exonerated" seems to be changing to "innocent until proven guilty". mia May 2019 #29
Word choice Surrogate May 2019 #39
Trump not guilty? No way. Welcome to DU, I think. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #46
One of their big talking points was... Ohioboy May 2019 #33
That's why Mueller MUST testify. calimary May 2019 #34
This morning's newspaper headline was "No Exoneration" Texin May 2019 #35
Tarabithia Poll results Surrogate May 2019 #37
Rep. Joe Wilson shouted at Obama "You lie!" Alwaysna May 2019 #42
Hoping & praying the great state of NY cannonballs MasonDreams May 2019 #43

KPN

(15,643 posts)
5. Lol. Like saying I did it but you can't prove it.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:16 AM
May 2019

This is the beginning of the end for real this time. Yeah it will still take a while. Yeah it might actually go so long that we have to vote him out in 2020, bit his criminal and illegitimate administration is done for one way or the other. And he, his family, his businesses and other GOP cooperators are going to pay.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
41. Bingo! We have a winner.
Fri May 31, 2019, 12:39 AM
May 2019

If not for Trump and CrimeInc. they very well may have found enough evidence of conspiracy with the Russians to convict him of that as well. I still think Mueller should have subpoenaed Trump for in-person interviews. Letting him get away with written questions that his lawyers could answer for him was complete and utter bullshit. Trump would certainly have spilled the beans. He's just about the dullest knife in the drawer, second only to his son Erik.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
30. Could not happen too soon!
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:51 AM
May 2019

Notice the sience of Republicans. Mitch and Lindsey both know their Brave?? Words mean little now.

I have to wonder if Barr knew this was coming down? Thus his trip to Alaska!

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
2. I just caught some insight on CSPAN's Washington Journal.
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:42 AM
May 2019

A guy called in on the Republican line and said all the hatred and division is caused by the "libtard left." Republicans don't do irony well. LOL.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
28. Tiny hands near gone.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:31 AM
May 2019

At this point, Luckovich won’t be able to draw the “Nixon victory sign” when the helicopter takes him away.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
4. Their narrative changes constantly to adjust for the latest disclosures
Thu May 30, 2019, 07:50 AM
May 2019

Go back and look what they were saying from before Mueller was hired, to his hiring, to each indictment or revelation that came out. It's a lesson in intellectual yoga. They can twist themselves into so many positions they should be contortionists in a circus. It's the only way they can deal with the fact that they support a traitor and a fraud. That and everyone is lying or biased so you can't believe anything bad about Trump. That's my story and I'm sticking to it-until I need to come up with another one.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
6. "took hearing it from his lips to make a difference"
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:21 AM
May 2019

I am convinced few of these politicians ever read whatever comes to their desks, I know they have people working for them but they seem to miss a lot.

Last night Rachel Maddow made a point that Democrats did not seem to know that one of the previsions that were imposed on the Special Council had to do with the indictment, or lack of power to indict the buffoon, it seemed to her that Democrats were counting on Muller to provide the clear verdict as a path to indict the buffoon and seem to have been surprised by it, which led her to believe they had not read the SC provisions.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
7. I remain very disappointed in the poor reporting on this from the beginning.
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:26 AM
May 2019

Our stupid media amplified Barr's blatant lies about the report from the beginning. Too few people even bothered to read it.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. All we have seen so far
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:52 AM
May 2019

is what accomplice Bill Barr has allowed us to see. We or Congress needs to see the entire Mueller report, the grand jury testimony and the counterintelligence report done by the FBI.

I understand the push to have Mueller testify before Congress, and I am all for that, but I would like to see other people on Mueller's team testify. I would definitely tune in to see Andrew Weissman take on Gym Jordan in a public hearing.

pazzyanne

(6,549 posts)
19. Your post is right on except,
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:00 AM
May 2019

the CiC upped the number of angry Democrats to 18 this morning. I wonder if he understands just how MANY angry Democrats there actually are! I am now willing to lead a "tar and feather" contingency ASAP.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
23. Yes, just saw that. But like I said, give it a few days.
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:15 AM
May 2019

I don't think Fox will continue to support that narrative.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
26. He should be impeached just for failing to do anything about an attack on our country
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:23 AM
May 2019

Instead he's going to go after the very people who uncovered this.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
27. Agree 100%. That one issue, among thousands of issues...
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:24 AM
May 2019

would certainly be enough for the impeachment of any President.

mia

(8,360 posts)
29. 2) "Completely exonerated" seems to be changing to "innocent until proven guilty".
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:39 AM
May 2019

Trump proclaimed his innocence.
He left out "until proven guilty" in his tweet.

The thought of a Congressional investigation must terrify him. Right now he's fighting for his life in the court of popular opinion.




Surrogate

(11 posts)
39. Word choice
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:24 PM
May 2019

I still have a bone to pick regarding Drumpf's word choice.

There's a big difference between "innocent" and "not guilty". And i'd bet dollars to donuts that he's neither innocent or guilty.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
33. One of their big talking points was...
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:05 AM
May 2019

If Mueller doesn't agree with the Barr summary, why doesn't he say so?

That one won't work anymore.

Barr getting out in front of the report and misrepresenting it was all they really had, and they knew it. The report itself does NOT exonerate Trump at all. In fact, it makes him look very bad.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
34. That's why Mueller MUST testify.
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:05 AM
May 2019

So Americans can finally SEE and HEAR the truth. From Mueller’s own mouth.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
35. This morning's newspaper headline was "No Exoneration"
Thu May 30, 2019, 10:43 AM
May 2019

We live in Dallas County (a marginally purple county deep in the still red-red state), but the most circulated newspaper is owned by a very right wing publisher. For this particular paper to print that headline above the fold and in big, big print is a big fucking deal.

I don't know whether this will hurt tRump or not. It certainly won't have any impact on the immovable 40-43% who are with him ride or die. The other people who broke with him in 2016 may be impacted though. I guess we'll have to see. Where it might make a difference, though, is on the down ticket races. Those rethugs who are backing his lard ass the most vociferously might suffer if they continue to keep defending him, and I think there will be some voters out there who may begin to start paying attention when he keeps fluffing Putin, Jong Un, the Saudis, and other autocrats over our traditional allies. But we shall see.

Surrogate

(11 posts)
37. Tarabithia Poll results
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:19 PM
May 2019

In a nationwide poll, 90% of respondents admitted they had not read Mueller's report, and the other 10% lied and claimed they had.

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
42. Rep. Joe Wilson shouted at Obama "You lie!"
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:57 AM
May 2019

I'd like to see someone shout that everytime Barr starts to speak until it becomes a chant.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
43. Hoping & praying the great state of NY cannonballs
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:04 AM
May 2019

several holes into the crime klan's leaky boat. Plesase please just a little push for impeachment momentum.

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