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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:33 PM May 2019

Turns Out.. Dept of Navy did receive a request from

Last edited Thu May 30, 2019, 05:31 PM - Edit history (2)

the White House Military Office to lose the McCain....
Of Course Trump stated that he knew "nothing about this.".

Give me a FUCKING BREAK... Oh!, I forgot that he did mention this a.m.
that he wasn't a big fan of McCain..He prevented Health Care and still is not a "big fan"..In so many words..

Am I the only one who feels that this might be a bigger deal than the media is reflecting this am.?
Am I wrong that this can be a huge anti-trump moment.
To Denigrate a U.S. War Heroe.??? I would think that many Trump fence sitters might leap over to reality!


UPDATE: it seems as though that today might be the beginning of the end .. Theres a diff feeling out there all over the airways..William S. Cohen former Republican Secretary of Defense.. Is now calling Republican's out today for not beginning Impeachment discussions.. Huge, Huge beginning.. I hope!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/us/politics/uss-mccain-navy-ship.html

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Turns Out.. Dept of Navy did receive a request from (Original Post) busterbrown May 2019 OP
He's been denigrating McCain since before he was nominated and elected onenote May 2019 #1
Has any other president Mr.Bill May 2019 #17
The USS John S. McCain is named after 3 American Military heroes displacedtexan May 2019 #19
on freaking MEMORIAL DAY no less MaryMagdaline May 2019 #29
This was also disrespectful to the sailors of the McCain and the military in general coti May 2019 #55
Given Trump's documented history of telling others to take action Raven123 May 2019 #2
I don't know how big a deal to make of it gratuitous May 2019 #3
I hope McCain has the opportunity to "thank tRump personally" sooner rather than later. Totally Tunsie May 2019 #6
Not sure..... MyOwnPeace May 2019 #7
Guess it depends on if God is a Democrat. Totally Tunsie May 2019 #11
LOL I am pretty sure they won't be. demigoddess May 2019 #50
Thread winner! EOM TruckFump May 2019 #10
The tarp incident is just another example of insane behavior Blues Heron May 2019 #4
It is a much bigger deal malaise May 2019 #5
It is consistent with his lack of character, and nobody ooky May 2019 #8
Trump has a feud going with a Dead Man! TruckFump May 2019 #9
Not sure what he thinks he's gonna win, but the score so far is Dead Man 2, Donnie 0. Volaris May 2019 #46
LOL! EOM TruckFump May 2019 #53
and this was on Memorial Day weekend no less IcyPeas May 2019 #12
"sure, trump just loves the Vets" - Japanese vets . As he wishes "Happy Memorial Day" to them. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #20
he's been pissing on McCain for a good 4 years now NewJeffCT May 2019 #13
What an ass. SouthernProgressive May 2019 #16
It should be investigated why the Navy went along with .. CatMor May 2019 #14
I was thinking along the same lines. Mr. Evil May 2019 #26
I am writing to my representatives about this ... CatMor May 2019 #34
Excellent! Mr. Evil May 2019 #37
And it was just an oversight the orange anus mentioned every ship berthed at Yokosuka, Japan Brother Buzz May 2019 #15
Good catch yonder May 2019 #22
Occam's razor, Baby! Brother Buzz May 2019 #38
I wish there was a way of putting up a YUGE sign or tarp with Mc Cains name on it within sight yaesu May 2019 #18
While this is going on randr May 2019 #21
The real question is, will Meghan McCain defend this? LisaM May 2019 #23
Oh Man... She's pissed toda! busterbrown May 2019 #32
Good! She has every right to! calimary May 2019 #56
How many people will care... SergeStorms May 2019 #24
They're gonna need something bigger than a standard urn.. Volaris May 2019 #47
Whatever it is... SergeStorms May 2019 #52
What u wanna bet he will wanna be buried in Arlington ... Volaris May 2019 #54
Another reason Trump has it in for McCain----McCain defended Obama's honor and loyalty to Doitnow May 2019 #25
It's sad that "people" in the white house blueinredohio May 2019 #27
Nicolle Wallace and her guests hope Ilsa May 2019 #28
The military loves Trump. watoos May 2019 #30
not all of them. check out the chart in the article. Kurt V. May 2019 #35
Trump should condemn this action and demand an investigation. riversedge May 2019 #31
Trump should condemn this action and demand an investigation. riversedge May 2019 #33
No freaking Chance.. busterbrown May 2019 #36
Thad Cochran died today and in the Con's so called malaise May 2019 #39
Trump said "McCain prevented Health Care", which dugog55 May 2019 #40
All those sailors on the ship have been disrespected MaryMagdaline May 2019 #41
Exactly!! busterbrown May 2019 #42
"High Yellow Man" MaryMagdaline May 2019 #48
I think you should look up what "high yellow" refers to. Demit May 2019 #51
Trump disrespected 3 (three) Navy officers the Navy respects enough to name that ship Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #43
Some light at the end of the tunnel? I hope so. nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #44
And more...he wished the Japanese Naval officers....Happy Memorial Day...but SayItLoud May 2019 #45
I CAN'T wait to 'disrespect' the Rump's grave! ProudLib72 May 2019 #49

onenote

(42,684 posts)
1. He's been denigrating McCain since before he was nominated and elected
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:43 PM
May 2019

Why do you think it's going to matter now?

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
19. The USS John S. McCain is named after 3 American Military heroes
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:31 PM
May 2019

Senator McCain's father & grandfather were admirals. President Half Day insulted all three, everyone serving onboard today, and everyone who's ever served onboard that ship.

And the families of the 10 sailors who died (on Trump's watch, I might add) in 2017 have been gutted once again.

It matters.

coti

(4,612 posts)
55. This was also disrespectful to the sailors of the McCain and the military in general
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:10 PM
May 2019

He pulled a six-year-old's stunt over a name, it just goes to show how incredibly weak and immature he is, and unfit for his position

Raven123

(4,813 posts)
2. Given Trump's documented history of telling others to take action
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:45 PM
May 2019

Need to find out the source of the request - and ask or her how that decision was made - under oath.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. I don't know how big a deal to make of it
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:46 PM
May 2019

Trump's been ultra-pissed at McCain since John didn't thank Trump personally for the swell funeral and memorial services Trump "let" the family have. But keep this episode handy for those times when you need to buttress an argument about what a petty, insecure, needy little man Trump is. That flies directly in the face of how his supporters prefer to see him as a take-charge man of action.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
4. The tarp incident is just another example of insane behavior
Thu May 30, 2019, 03:54 PM
May 2019

emanating from this White House. Petty, tyrannical, insane and now apparently above the law according to DOJ rules. Feels like a bad Star Trek episode. Beam me up Scotty!

ooky

(8,921 posts)
8. It is consistent with his lack of character, and nobody
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:02 PM
May 2019

believes anything he says anyway. Hardly a shocking development, for him.

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
12. and this was on Memorial Day weekend no less
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:13 PM
May 2019

dissing John McCain on Memorial Day.

sure, trump just loves the Vets.

keithbvadu2

(36,743 posts)
20. "sure, trump just loves the Vets" - Japanese vets . As he wishes "Happy Memorial Day" to them.
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:39 PM
May 2019

As he wishes "Happy Memorial Day" to them.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. he's been pissing on McCain for a good 4 years now
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:15 PM
May 2019

when did he say that McCain was only a hero because he got captured? That was almost 4 years ago now.

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
16. What an ass.
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019

"He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured."

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
14. It should be investigated why the Navy went along with ..
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:23 PM
May 2019

such an outrageous request. This was during Memorial Day weekend no less. McCain served admirably and was a POW during the Viet Nam War. This is a real big deal in my opinion and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves and punished. All that for a draft dodger.

Mr. Evil

(2,837 posts)
26. I was thinking along the same lines.
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:09 PM
May 2019

Why would the Naval personnel assigned to that ship agree to or allow this to happen? We already know Trump is as shameless as they come but, covering the name of the vessel for the likes of Trump is shameful.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
34. I am writing to my representatives about this ...
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
May 2019

and asking how they can keep letting trump and his minions get away with outrageous nonsense.

Brother Buzz

(36,410 posts)
15. And it was just an oversight the orange anus mentioned every ship berthed at Yokosuka, Japan
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:23 PM
May 2019

during his speech on board the USS Wasp, EXCEPT the USS USS John S McCain.

https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-troops-uss-wasp-yokosuka-japan-may-28-2019

yonder

(9,663 posts)
22. Good catch
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:56 PM
May 2019

I'd go out on a limb and say it looks like he at least knew about the efforts to conceal the ship's I.D., if not being the driver of it himself.

Brother Buzz

(36,410 posts)
38. Occam's razor, Baby!
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:35 PM
May 2019

And to think he shit on over 250 sailors assigned to the USS John S McCain....and their families for petty retribution/retaliation/revenge.

Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung have been debating this 3R shit for years, and, well, they concluded the orange anus is beyond redemption.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
18. I wish there was a way of putting up a YUGE sign or tarp with Mc Cains name on it within sight
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:31 PM
May 2019

of the White House or mar a lago, get a go fund me to fund it.

randr

(12,409 posts)
21. While this is going on
Thu May 30, 2019, 04:50 PM
May 2019

other seamen are sporting Trump MAGA insignias on their uniforms. I suspect there is a tie.
Read that the Navy was going to "look into the insignia badge" thing, an obvious infraction of military rules.
I would hope they find the culprits that manufactured, sold, stitched, wore, or had anything to do with this.
The Service men on the USS McCain should be allowed to beat the living shit out of them all.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
24. How many people will care...
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:03 PM
May 2019

when that orange asshole dies? His immediate family...........maybe, and that's just because of the money (if there IS any money)! I hope they cremate Trump's bulbous carcass and don't defile the earth with his ratty remains.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
52. Whatever it is...
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:43 PM
May 2019

he'll reach back from the grave if it isn't at least gold plated. He has the anti-Midas touch, that's for sure. He's certainly turned the U.S. Presidency to shit.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
54. What u wanna bet he will wanna be buried in Arlington ...
Thu May 30, 2019, 11:06 PM
May 2019

I'll BUY an American Standard brand Urinal (hotel mgr hookup) and set that fucker in concrete against the back of his headstone, because fuck him.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
25. Another reason Trump has it in for McCain----McCain defended Obama's honor and loyalty to
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:05 PM
May 2019

this country.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
28. Nicolle Wallace and her guests hope
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:13 PM
May 2019

that Congress will inquire about this because of the impact on the military.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
36. No freaking Chance..
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:34 PM
May 2019

Not even close.. The Military Dept in the White House sent the request.. You think they would do this without his consent..???? No way!

malaise

(268,885 posts)
39. Thad Cochran died today and in the Con's so called
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:44 PM
May 2019

tribute he brought up the health care bill to attack McCain again

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/30/politics/thad-cochran-dies-mississippi-senator/index.html
<snip>
President Donald Trump tweeted praise of Cochran noting that despite illness he returned to the Senate in 2017 to vote on an Affordable Care Act repeal measure that ultimately failed when former Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona voted against it, stunning the country.

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Never forget McCain told him not to come to his funeral - that still burns.

dugog55

(296 posts)
40. Trump said "McCain prevented Health Care", which
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:45 PM
May 2019

Is a misstatement of fact. John McCain voted to block a bill from passing which would have ended the ACA. McCain PRESERVED Obamacare which infuriated our man-child President.

The Repubs have been trying to dismantle or end the ACA for 10 years, voting 50 some times to do so. They did not have then, and still do not have any idea for a plan other than letting insurance companies and hospitals run wild. Some plan.

Their messing around with parts of the plan and Trumps direct interference with yearly enrollment has already caused rates to go up substantially for no reason other than uncertainty in the health care markets.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
41. All those sailors on the ship have been disrespected
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:49 PM
May 2019

Someone high up needs to post their ship and commander and let them know we see them.

How EXACTLY could this order be carried out if it came from a civilian????

Had to come from trump.

If any commander voluntarily carried this out, bringing shame to his command, he should be reprimanded

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
42. Exactly!!
Thu May 30, 2019, 05:58 PM
May 2019

The order came through the White House Military Office.... But one can bet the farm that the order was given a Thumbs Up from the Prez. Probably the idea came from High Yellow Man..

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
43. Trump disrespected 3 (three) Navy officers the Navy respects enough to name that ship
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:01 PM
May 2019

Admiral McCain (grandfather)
Admiral McCain (father)
Senator John McCain (Navy pilot)

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
45. And more...he wished the Japanese Naval officers....Happy Memorial Day...but
Thu May 30, 2019, 06:21 PM
May 2019

that slid by...the Military needs to have outside of service spox start to speak up. Vets too. Keep drilling on this moron's head.

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