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Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
Thu May 30, 2019, 08:35 PM May 2019

Here is the catch 22

Mueller can't indict because of the OLC, but Barr can clear Trump because of the OLC not allowing Mueller to indict.

Notice the double speak in William Barr's response to Mueller's televised statement yesterday.

"I personally felt he could have reached a decision as to whether it was criminal activity...the opinion says you can't indict...but he had his reasons for not doing it which he explained...but when he didn't make a decision the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I felt it necessary as the heads of the department to make a decision."

This is total double speak. It starts with Barr saying he "personally felt he (Mueller) could have reached a decision". Then he contradicts himself by giving the reason Mueller didn't make the decision, then goes on to say because the decision wasn't made he (Barr) and Rosenstein did it as heads of the department.

Yeah, like he had no choice but to misrepresent the report.


This is the kind of slick bullshit Orwell warned about! Think about it.

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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. There's lotsa room at Guantanamo for Smug Thug Big Fat Bottom Barr, tRUMP
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:19 PM
May 2019

and the rest of the reTHUGS!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. Hmmm, could Barr's decision be challenged in court? This is a good point, if the DoJ can't do the...
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:05 PM
May 2019

... negative act then they can't do the positive action against a president either and that even includes owning their own evidence.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
3. You would think they shouldn't make a decision either way
Thu May 30, 2019, 09:13 PM
May 2019

but that's not what Barr is doing. He's acting like Trump is above the law.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
6. The Trump administration's stance is that the DOJ can clear a president of crimes but cannot
Fri May 31, 2019, 10:23 AM
May 2019

charge the president with crimes when the president is a Republican.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. Barr's lost credibility. No one cares what he says, anymore.
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jun 2019

Barr has lost his credibility. He's now just an extension of Trump. A loyalist who does and says what Trump wants him to, all for the benefit of Trump, not the country. There's payola at the end of that rainbow.

This gets us to what drives human nature at its basic level. "What's in it for me?" That applies to almost everyone. I've seen voters through the years not care if certain programs by their party harmed others in the same party. They were voting their own interests. Barr has gone to a new level, though. And there is the rare individual who does rise above it all to do the right thing. That type of person is rare and almost never acknowledged by the opposing party, at least publicly (that would be against its own interests).

Barr is sort of like another family member. Same as Jr. or Kushner. Their job is to protect Trump.

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