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Hate Flag ripped down!!!!! (Original Post) Cattledog May 2019 OP
TRIBE Express Facebook Page TheBlackAdder May 2019 #1
"All 48 states". Stuck in the 1950s. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #6
Kinda hard to drive a truck to Hawaii liberaltrucker May 2019 #10
Haha! It struck me that an MBE would not have a policy against it, but based in GA it might be OK. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #11
Makes me wonder CDerekGo May 2019 #2
Thank you!❤ An outstanding soul! Karadeniz May 2019 #3
Good! lunatica May 2019 #4
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone May 2019 #5
K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #7
Somewhere some Trucker is now out buying a new flag fescuerescue May 2019 #8
While he's doing that, thousands of people have NOT seen the hate flag endorsed. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2019 #15
Yea I guess there's that fescuerescue May 2019 #18
Well Said Roy Rolling Jun 2019 #39
So much for free speech pintobean May 2019 #9
I found it ironic, too. I agree: I want these nutbags to identify themselves. marble falls May 2019 #14
Yeah I would not cheerlead destruction of property. Initech May 2019 #16
This, and agree with Pinto. Hortensis Jun 2019 #46
Uhmm, the dude who removed the hate symbol Dr Hobbitstein May 2019 #19
Respect for the right of free speech comes from the people -- Hortensis Jun 2019 #47
Meh. His free speech was not denied. Just like punching a Nazi doesn't deny them theirs. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2019 #51
Problem is, there are too many racist assholes and, Hortensis Jun 2019 #53
Punching a Nazi should ALWAYS be acceptable. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2019 #54
Quentin Tarantino showed us that with customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #57
I don't respect other people's property in that way. hunter May 2019 #21
Asking a homeowner if you can remove it is one thing misanthrope May 2019 #23
How would I feel? I'd laugh. hunter Jun 2019 #34
I've had that happen skydive forever Jun 2019 #38
Vandalism, as well as theft. pintobean Jun 2019 #40
My grandmother was native american mix lambchopp59 Jun 2019 #49
I'm a white-bread American and your post is offensive. Hortensis Jun 2019 #52
Freedom of speech doesn't apply to speech that I disagree with. Dr. Strange May 2019 #24
Fuck this MAGA chud. His ilk are the enemies of liberty and decency. backscatter712 May 2019 #27
Germany was smart enough to outlaw displays of Nazi crap. rwsanders Jun 2019 #31
As a Southerner with no Confederate sympathies whatsoever, I agree with you 100%. Aristus Jun 2019 #56
I've lived some time in SC and AL. rwsanders Jun 2019 #58
agreed and well said The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #44
Free speech, My Ass! The Confederacy was an enemy of the US. It's worship on US soil is disgusting. Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #37
Nah, you are wrong The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #41
The treasonous bastard who displayed the flag didn't go to prison for doing so. Aristus Jun 2019 #55
That flag is hate speech - not free speech. Joe941 Jun 2019 #59
Glad he is ok Sucha NastyWoman May 2019 #12
hard to have respect for people's property when it's a symbol of treating people *as* property! unblock May 2019 #13
Sweet!! Hulk May 2019 #17
Our heritage is hate ..... magicarpet May 2019 #20
k&r Soph0571 May 2019 #22
Love it and great bumper music for the tweet - James Brown's The Big Payback. iluvtennis May 2019 #25
Great bdamomma May 2019 #26
I had that flag on my wall till I was about 12 SCantiGOP Jun 2019 #28
this happened in 2015 tenderfoot Jun 2019 #29
Ah good, I responded to that thread too. hunter Jun 2019 #35
I'm all for free speech. JohnnyRingo Jun 2019 #30
Amen to that The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #43
I never understood how Americans could present a flag of traitors. Why not the Rising Sun or Capt. America Jun 2019 #32
Agree. Behind the Aegis Jun 2019 #36
Same thing happened to me in early 2016. Had every PBO and HRC bumper sticker I had ripped off my... MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #33
By any means necessary The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #42
The real Confederate flag is solid white. OMGWTF Jun 2019 #45
Traitor flag. the_sly_pig Jun 2019 #48
Deface that stuff SMoss Jun 2019 #50

TheBlackAdder

(28,182 posts)
1. TRIBE Express Facebook Page
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:27 PM
May 2019

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MISSION:

Our mission is to be the transportation choice for those customers who want a true asset based MBE partner and we will continue to field the most experienced transportation professionals possible, "Best team wins!"


ABOUT:

TRIBE is one of the fastest growing minority transportation companies in the industry; providing truckload service via Deep Frozen, Refrigerated, Dedicated, Expedited, Logistics and Power Only modes. We also have Canadian Authority along with being permitted to transport alcohol to all 48 States.


https://www.facebook.com/pg/TRIBEexpress/about/?ref=page_internal

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CDerekGo

(507 posts)
2. Makes me wonder
Fri May 31, 2019, 04:34 PM
May 2019

If TRIBE has any clue that one of their Drivers applied that HATE flag to one of their trailers?

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
8. Somewhere some Trucker is now out buying a new flag
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:07 PM
May 2019

and keeping that flag business profitable.

I love the sentiment. Unfortunately these sort of things tend to produce the opposite effect than intended.

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
39. Well Said
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:46 AM
Jun 2019

It brings up the bigger point: war is unpredictable. Once it starts it never ends up as predicted.

So all we can do is act honorably in the moment---removing flag was both dangerous and admirable. "What are the repercussions" is another discussion, with the answer "predicting the future is an imperfect science".

But for now, awesome fuc**ng video!

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
9. So much for free speech
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:09 PM
May 2019

and respect for other people's property.

And, it would have been better left in place. It's always a good thing when bigots identify themselves.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
16. Yeah I would not cheerlead destruction of property.
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:51 PM
May 2019

If I see a business flying a MAGA flag or having "Don't Tread On Me" bumper stickers on its' trucks, or any sort of religious paraphernalia on its' vehicles or buildings, it helps me to identify them so I won't patronize them.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
19. Uhmm, the dude who removed the hate symbol
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:10 PM
May 2019

is not the government. No one’s free speech rights were taken away.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. Respect for the right of free speech comes from the people --
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:23 PM
Jun 2019

who codified this principle in our constitution. You are correct that no right was taken away, but this speech was.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
51. Meh. His free speech was not denied. Just like punching a Nazi doesn't deny them theirs.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jun 2019

Don’t be a racist asshole and you won’t have to worry about a thing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
53. Problem is, there are too many racist assholes and,
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jun 2019

frankly, way too many aggressive assholes who use the excuse of opposing racism to act out their hostilities, for this to be a viable solution to society's problems.

Happily, we're actually already at a point where the behaviors of both groups are considered completely unacceptable by most social groups, places of employment, and of course in public by authorities. That's something to build on.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
57. Quentin Tarantino showed us that with
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:33 PM
Jun 2019

"Inglourious Basterds". What the Basterds did constituted war crimes, but if they're done against a Nazi, they get cheered by a crowd in a theater.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
21. I don't respect other people's property in that way.
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:24 PM
May 2019

Especially vile rotten white supremacist or homophobic people.

Bloody hell.

I've removed or defaced a few vile flags, yard signs, and bumper stickers myself.

I recycled a pickup truck full of California Proposition H8 yard signs, mostly that I picked up free for the taking from Catholic and Mormon groups.



One of my kids was far more bad ass than me. He'd knock on people's doors and tell them their Prop H8 signs were not Christian and ask if he could take them down.

Nine out of ten people agreed.

Years later those same people probably voted for Trump, but they would have done that anyways.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
23. Asking a homeowner if you can remove it is one thing
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:05 PM
May 2019

Taking it upon yourself to alter someone else's private property is another. How would you feel if you walked out of a store and someone was peeling bumperstickers off your car because they didn't like them?

hunter

(38,309 posts)
34. How would I feel? I'd laugh.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:52 AM
Jun 2019

I drive an $800 car so it's not like I'm worried about scratches

A bigger irritation is kids spray painting graffiti on my back wall but I laugh at them too.

What, they think I can't smell spray paint?

The borders of free speech are messy. Sometimes I think we are free to say anything we like here in the U.S.A. so long as it is inconsequential. March peacefully all you like. Send a letter to the editor. Call a radio show. But if you become a threat to those in power all hell breaks loose.


lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
49. My grandmother was native american mix
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jun 2019

Yet she believed as I do. Private property is illusory, you "can't take it with you".
And white-bread Americans are nothing but evil, greedy bastards "protecting" such with their guns.
This video clip could only be improved had the guy plastered the rainbow flag after removing that "rebel flag" shit.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
52. I'm a white-bread American and your post is offensive.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jun 2019

Further, hate talk isn't allowed here. Nor has racial hate ever been anything but an existential threat for people like your grandmother who are vastly outnumbered and needing allies.

You may be safely white-bread yourself, but just what do you imagine would happen to others you claim to worry about if they didn't have the alliance with liberal white-bread voters - and many other groups in the extremely diverse Democratic party -- that makes them part of a literal majority if not always an electoral college one?

And, just fwiw, personally speaking, I would appreciate it if you did not refer to yourself as "liberal." Intense hostility toward people because of their race, self-hate emphatically not excluded, is not characteristic of us, and I wouldn't want others to think it is.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
27. Fuck this MAGA chud. His ilk are the enemies of liberty and decency.
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:44 PM
May 2019

As far as I'm concerned, we're in a state of war with these fascist pieces of shit. Open season.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
31. Germany was smart enough to outlaw displays of Nazi crap.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:19 AM
Jun 2019

The confederacy was a group of traitors. They've been tolerated and coddled too long.
Funny how stuff like this and obscenities on vehicles are "protected speech" while legitimate protests are harassed, infiltrated, confined, etc.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
56. As a Southerner with no Confederate sympathies whatsoever, I agree with you 100%.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jun 2019

We spent far too many years in this country trying not to offend the delicate sensibilities of the pro-slavery South.

"Captain Kirk kissing Lieutenant Uhura? We can't show that! It'll offend the South!"

"Mr. Tibbs in 'In The Heat Of The Night' demanding to be treated as the equal of a white Southern man? We can't show that! It'll offend the South!"

Fuck those assholes! They lost the war. They need to get over it!

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
58. I've lived some time in SC and AL.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jun 2019

In SC a person in my church would refer to the civil was as the "war of northern aggression" if I knew then what I know now, I would have waited until he said it in front of a crowd and verbally raked him over the coals. Bugs me all the time that I let it slide.
Also could never convince anyone down there that despite the label, they really can't barbeque down there.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
41. Nah, you are wrong
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jun 2019

Because people don't stand up to these confederate flag waving chumps is EXACTLY why we are in the position we are these days. That flag is as much of a threat as burning a cross. I would say that that truck driver is lucky that only that flag was ripped off, and no one actually took a shot at him/her because of it. As for me, I'll continue to show zero tolerance.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
55. The treasonous bastard who displayed the flag didn't go to prison for doing so.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jun 2019
That would have been a violation of his free speech rights.

One thing he definitely doesn't have a right to is to be able to express such vile thoughts without opposition.

unblock

(52,188 posts)
13. hard to have respect for people's property when it's a symbol of treating people *as* property!
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:38 PM
May 2019

that said i don't recommend this sort of thing....

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
25. Love it and great bumper music for the tweet - James Brown's The Big Payback.
Fri May 31, 2019, 07:17 PM
May 2019

that song's from 1973/74 and never gets old.



SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
28. I had that flag on my wall till I was about 12
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jun 2019

Damn, I would have loved to be there to give that guy a high five (or a drink, or a joint, or pay his bail, etc)

hunter

(38,309 posts)
35. Ah good, I responded to that thread too.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 03:14 AM
Jun 2019

Pretty much the same way.

Heh, I wonder what the statuette of limitations is...


JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
30. I'm all for free speech.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:43 AM
Jun 2019

But the citizen activist didn't hurt the truck, he just captured an enemy flag, as has happened in the past. Good history lesson for the truck driver.

Capt. America

(2,477 posts)
32. I never understood how Americans could present a flag of traitors. Why not the Rising Sun or
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:55 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:06 AM - Edit history (1)

Swasticka? That being said, its not kosher to rip people's stuff off of their vehicle; even if it is offensive.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
33. Same thing happened to me in early 2016. Had every PBO and HRC bumper sticker I had ripped off my...
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:05 AM
Jun 2019

car by someone, probably a dozen in all. I guess that's how people express their disagreement in the 21st century.

SMoss

(112 posts)
50. Deface that stuff
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:24 PM
Jun 2019

When I get the chance to deface stuff like that I take it. Yes, the perp will just buy another, but there are more of us than them. There was a PU truck at a local restaurant I frequent for breakfast with a dozen tRump and NRA stickers on the tail gate. I added a sticker the said "Looser." It was there for weeks before the jerk notices it and took off.

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