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trev

(1,480 posts)
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 12:55 PM Jun 2019

Noah didn't retire, so why should we?

"There's nothing in the Bible that talks about retirement. And yet it's been an accepted concept in our culture today. Nowhere does it say, 'Well, he was a good and faithful servant, so he went to the beach.' It doesn't say that anywhere.

"The example I think of is Noah. How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600. He wasn't like, cashing Social Security checks, he wasn't hanging out, he was working. So, I think we have an obligation to work. The role we have in work may change over time, but the concept of retirement is not biblical."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/14/1864828/-Dude-who-said-people-shouldn-t-retire-because-Noah-built-the-ark-at-age-600-now-running-for-governor?detail=emaildkre

The article points out that--surprise, surprise--Gianforte is rich.

The good news in this article is that he is stepping down from his House seat.

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Noah didn't retire, so why should we? (Original Post) trev Jun 2019 OP
all you people dying before 100 years old qazplm135 Jun 2019 #1
Depends upon snowybirdie Jun 2019 #2
Yeah. Probably. Iggo Jun 2019 #15
He said as he ate shellfish.... JDC Jun 2019 #3
LOL trev Jun 2019 #4
Good call KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #7
What the hell does any idle-rich asshole know about working? Aristus Jun 2019 #5
Ginaforte should be in prison for assaulting a reporter, but he isn't ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #6
I agree with everything you wrote. trev Jun 2019 #8
Gilgamesh dove to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve one of those flowers ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #9
I know UR, but what am I? jberryhill Jun 2019 #10
I've been studying Christian history trev Jun 2019 #11
I taught a college class that included Gilgamesh ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #13
I once wanted to be a college professor trev Jun 2019 #14
Top banter in the comments section too. OnDoutside Jun 2019 #12

snowybirdie

(5,227 posts)
2. Depends upon
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jun 2019

what one is retiring from. A person with a desk job can likely work for many years beyond 65. However, having had tradesmen in the family, I know how difficult it can be to do construction work into your 60s. Noah was probably a mythical figure and that 600 year age was someone's imagination.

Aristus

(66,361 posts)
5. What the hell does any idle-rich asshole know about working?
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jun 2019

Other than that he stays rich when other people do his work for him?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
6. Ginaforte should be in prison for assaulting a reporter, but he isn't
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jun 2019

Noah was a drunk. Noah is not his real name. His real name is Utanapishtim (read the Epic of Gilgamesh,) and he ate a certain flower that gave long life. Unfortunately, we do not have access to that flower anymore.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. Gilgamesh dove to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve one of those flowers
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jun 2019

As he was sailing back to Uruk, a snake came along and swiped that flower.

Now think about that for a moment: Snake steals life. Sounds kind of like the Garden of Eden story.

I find this stuff very interesting. I'm a nerd.

trev

(1,480 posts)
11. I've been studying Christian history
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jun 2019

and a smattering of other religions for 35 years. The Sumerian accounts of how their civilization came about are fascinating. The Bible was obviously based on beliefs going back thousands of years before it was written. Interesting that so many of the tales in the OT are essentially duplicates of those told in nations the Hebrews once lived in....

As for the poor snake, he was the one telling the truth in Genesis.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
13. I taught a college class that included Gilgamesh
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jun 2019

For that flood story I dug up a few scientific articles that showed proof of it happening. The interesting thing is that all evidence pointed to there being a massive flood 7,000 years ago at the very tail end of the last ice age. Gilgamesh was first described in writing around 4,000 years ago. That means the story of the flood was passed down orally for at least 3,000 years before finally being written!

trev

(1,480 posts)
14. I once wanted to be a college professor
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jun 2019

but in my younger years I was deathly afraid of public speaking. I could do it now, if I had the opportunity. I envy you.

And yes, there is much physical and textual evidence for a flood, although most of the things I've read say it was more like 13,000 years ago. Potato, potahto.... geology is hard to pin down. But I'm convinced something catastrophic happened well before the Bronze Age.

Plus, it was not unusual for such reports to be handed down orally for millennia. A good example is the Iliad.

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