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TheSocialDem

(191 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:22 PM Jun 2019

Polls only show how we would fare in a FAIR election

I’m worried that the polling data will give false confidence once again when in actuality when we all show up to the polls who knows how much our win margin will need to be after all the GOP cheating and treason sets in once again. On a aggregate basis, I’d bet they’ve gotten at least, a 10% advantage, wouldn’t be surprised if it was up to 20% by 2020.

It’s going to be hard to overcome how fucking rigged they’ve now gotten this. I hope we can, I hope we realize we don’t need to just win, we need to win overwhelmingly. I still have hope, but the situation is grim.

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Polls only show how we would fare in a FAIR election (Original Post) TheSocialDem Jun 2019 OP
Mentioned by MSNBC panel today, but needs to be sung at top voice from every tower by every emmaverybo Jun 2019 #1
Remember the midterms BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #2
+1, Senate & national elections are more centrally processed than districts level ones uponit7771 Jun 2019 #4
THANK YOU !!! 2020 will not be a free and fair election uponit7771 Jun 2019 #3
Why people continue to be swayed from the realities of Republicanism live love laugh Jun 2019 #5
Yes, Republican Cheating, Voter Suppression & Foreign Interference Need to be Taken into Account dlk Jun 2019 #6
And McConnell's blocking our chance to fix it. We need to be in the streets like never before JudyM Jun 2019 #8
It is becoming so apparent, with each passing day, we are totally fucked. Say our candidate Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #7
As always we need to GET OUT THE VOTE! FakeNoose Jun 2019 #9
No, polling broadly reflects any baked in biases that Facebook messaging might incite again... brooklynite Jun 2019 #10
How about gerrymandering and voter suppression? TheSocialDem Jun 2019 #11
Gerrymandering doesn't impact Presidential (Statewide) votes. brooklynite Jun 2019 #12
Without gerrymandering we'd have an easier time impeaching the bastard TheSocialDem Jun 2019 #13
No, we wouldn't... brooklynite Jun 2019 #15
Agreed. We won in 2018 because we ran issues-based campaigns. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #16
Not to mention the control they gained do it and implementing TheSocialDem Jun 2019 #14

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
1. Mentioned by MSNBC panel today, but needs to be sung at top voice from every tower by every
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jun 2019

Choir all the time.
Criminals only get better. This time the Russians et al will be more effective.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
2. Remember the midterms
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jun 2019

and all the cheating that went on in FL and GA? And that was just the midterms! 2020 will be a full on attack of our elections.

live love laugh

(13,109 posts)
5. Why people continue to be swayed from the realities of Republicanism
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:46 PM
Jun 2019

—their legacy of treason, lies, theft, deceit, bigotry and murder—is beyond me.

At this point anybody who hangs their hat on anything other than an actual, secured Democratic seat is a fool.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
6. Yes, Republican Cheating, Voter Suppression & Foreign Interference Need to be Taken into Account
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:41 AM
Jun 2019

I suspect there will be epic cheating and interference in the 2020 election.

JudyM

(29,248 posts)
8. And McConnell's blocking our chance to fix it. We need to be in the streets like never before
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 10:52 AM
Jun 2019

because our future truly turns on this election.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. It is becoming so apparent, with each passing day, we are totally fucked. Say our candidate
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:46 AM
Jun 2019

Is up by 15 points and trump “wins”...who we gonna call? The “attorney general”? This is so serious, we should concentrate only on the swing states and get our person’s lead up to 20. Then just hope the people will rise up when trump wins.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
9. As always we need to GET OUT THE VOTE!
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jun 2019

There hasn't been a fair election in this country - where the Repukes refrained from cheating - for more than 20 years. So we already know the drill and we know we can beat the Repukes in spite of it.

The Democrats must win and we do it by keeping our eyes on the prize and getting out the vote.



Turn the White House BLUE in 2021!


brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
10. No, polling broadly reflects any baked in biases that Facebook messaging might incite again...
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jun 2019

If what you mean is that it doesn’t reflect vote-flipping, there’s still no evidence that that happened.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
15. No, we wouldn't...
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jun 2019

It only requires a majority to Impeach. That there isn’t a majority within the Democratic Caucus says a lot.

We did NOT win the House by promising impeachment. We won by proving to deal with pocket-book issues. Outside of the beltway and the activist blogosphere, voters aren’t focusing on this.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
16. Agreed. We won in 2018 because we ran issues-based campaigns.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jun 2019

If it's nothing but all Trump, all the time, we lose.

TheSocialDem

(191 posts)
14. Not to mention the control they gained do it and implementing
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jun 2019

The aforementioned purged and voter suppression that effects the senate and national races

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