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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:34 AM Jun 2019

The Corn 'Train Wreck' May Be Worse Than Forecast, U.S. Farmers Warn

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-14/corn-train-wreck-may-be-worse-than-forecast-u-s-farmers-warn

A smartphone could fit in the space between James McCune’s index finger and thumb as the Illinois farmer describes the height of crops stunted by incessant rain and unseasonably cool weather.

“Corn’s not supposed to be this tall” in mid-June, McCune, who can trace his family’s farm roots as far back as 1857, said. “It’s supposed to be this tall,” as he gestures just below his waist.

Conditions and morale are so low in McCune’s area of northwestern Illinois, typically the second-biggest corn-producing state, that he organized a get-together Thursday evening at The Happy Spot, a restaurant and bar in Deer Grove, Whiteside County. About 125 farmers and others tied to the industry turned out for chicken and beer at the event, dubbed “prevent plant party,” in reference to acreage left unsown this season.

“It’s going to be a train wreck,” McCune said.


A bad corn harvest is going to wreak havoc on cattle, too
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The Corn 'Train Wreck' May Be Worse Than Forecast, U.S. Farmers Warn (Original Post) Recursion Jun 2019 OP
Produce prices are already up where I am... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #1
Same here. n/t MFGsunny Jun 2019 #2
Two weeks ago at Giant Food store in my area: 12/$2 sarabelle Jun 2019 #33
On June 28th, we'll get the annual report for acreage planted for all crops OnlinePoker Jun 2019 #3
Yup. Cattle ranchers hate that Recursion Jun 2019 #5
Trump boosted e10 to e15, wich will cause some non-FlexFuel cars to have problems. Boost corn sales TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #6
in NYS almost everything up a dollar. Zoonart Jun 2019 #4
"Knee high by the 4th of July" used to be the rule Maeve Jun 2019 #7
and yet, UpInArms Jun 2019 #8
Ohio has been inundated with rain and flash floods. True Blue American Jun 2019 #19
in northwest missouri, UpInArms Jun 2019 #22
Same here, the fields have flash floods. True Blue American Jun 2019 #26
No one controls the weather. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #9
Tell that to the Alex Jonesians infinite_wisdom Jun 2019 #11
No one controls the weather or climate, but republican lies about it Achilleaze Jun 2019 #17
Thank you! True Blue American Jun 2019 #20
Wait, what? Climate Warming? Duppers Jun 2019 #29
It's going to impact ethanol production, too. cab67 Jun 2019 #10
To Make Matters Worse DallasNE Jun 2019 #12
Yup. Funny how that works (nt) Recursion Jun 2019 #13
It's worse than he describes around here. Frustratedlady Jun 2019 #14
And corn is almost in EVERYTHING hibbing Jun 2019 #15
An understatement superpatriotman Jun 2019 #25
First, allow me to congratulate saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #16
I drove out in the Midwest two weeks ago Drahthaardogs Jun 2019 #18
Oh Lord. Bad harvest during a glut? Recursion Jun 2019 #21
Nope. Good harvesting no market Drahthaardogs Jun 2019 #30
I have been to the Happy Spot many times. murielm99 Jun 2019 #23
I just traveled by car from western Missouri to north central Ohio. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2019 #24
I'm in Elkhart Indiana and I drive past several corn fields on my way to work bearsfootball516 Jun 2019 #27
That excessive rain is messing with cotton crops in West Texas too. blogslut Jun 2019 #28
Mother Nature is pissed and she is trying to eliminate the problem. roamer65 Jun 2019 #31
I live in Scott county, Iowa. Itchinjim Jun 2019 #32
 

sarabelle

(453 posts)
33. Two weeks ago at Giant Food store in my area: 12/$2
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:30 AM
Jun 2019

The corn was good and sweet. It's back up now but still cheap.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
3. On June 28th, we'll get the annual report for acreage planted for all crops
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jun 2019

I don't think it's going to be pretty. The worst part about corn is how much gets diverted for ethanol production. It's mandated in some states which will make the shortage of corn available even more acute.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Yup. Cattle ranchers hate that
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:46 AM
Jun 2019

I used to work for the cattle trade association, and this is exactly the sort of scenario they warned about: ethanol diversion is fixed quantity, not percentage, for many farmers.

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
6. Trump boosted e10 to e15, wich will cause some non-FlexFuel cars to have problems. Boost corn sales
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 10:31 AM
Jun 2019

.

Trump's farmer fucking turned a little as he's panicking for 2020 and just gave the corn farmers a small bone.

.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
7. "Knee high by the 4th of July" used to be the rule
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jun 2019

But corn has grown higher than that for years, with new strains. This year, however....driving thru parts of Ohio, looking at the fields, it's just sad.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
8. and yet,
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 10:58 AM
Jun 2019

they still supports the Orange Menace

Besides the rain, farmers have borne the brunt of President Donald Trump’s trade war with China. McCune and Snetcher are among farmers that support Trump’s moves, citing unfair trade practices by the Asian nation. The administration is preparing a second round of tariff-aid payments to farmers, as well as looking into freeing up funds for growers claiming what’s known as prevented plant insurance and who sow an eligible cover crop.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
19. Ohio has been inundated with rain and flash floods.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jun 2019

21/2 inches more expected tonight and rain for the next few days.

I actually visited the Dayton Cemetery that was hit on the Southwest side 2 weeks ago this morning.171 tombstones and Monuments toppled.

15 tornados in this area. Huge areas demolished

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
22. in northwest missouri,
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jun 2019

at least 60% of the fields are not even planted and the corn that is coming up is about 4 inches tall

it's going to be pretty awful for the farmers

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
26. Same here, the fields have flash floods.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jun 2019

A friend was coming home from vacation, decided to take more of a scenic route. In Southern Ohio he noticed water across the road, managed to slow but the water was really deep.

And it is getting worse.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
9. No one controls the weather.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jun 2019

If these farmers think it's ACC causing this year's rains, well, change the way you vote, rural America.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
29. Wait, what? Climate Warming?
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jun 2019

You do not think it's caused by humans? Sorry but i must not understand your intent. Agreed, no one person or group *controls* it but we certainly are influencing it.

Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities.
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/


Some extreme weather and climate events have increased in recent decades, and new and stronger evidence confirms that some of these increases are related to human activities.
https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/highlights/report-findings/extreme-weather


cab67

(2,993 posts)
10. It's going to impact ethanol production, too.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jun 2019

This could do real violence to gas prices in some parts of the country. The cheaper gas where I live in the upper midwest is always an ethanol blend.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
12. To Make Matters Worse
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jun 2019

Trump just signed an executive order permitting E15 gas sales the year around. That was to offset loss of sales due to the tariffs but other demands may have filled that void so this will just drive up prices for consumers.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
14. It's worse than he describes around here.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jun 2019

I was out for a ride on Sunday and the corn in many fields is just popping through the ground. Many plants are missing and will have to be hand planted or leave blank.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
15. And corn is almost in EVERYTHING
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jun 2019

Ugh, this with the idiotic tariffs that are hurting people everywhere, but especially here and soybeans, but yet the farmers will never, ever vote for a Republican.


Peace

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
16. First, allow me to congratulate
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:55 AM
Jun 2019

you on your move to Paris. The photos of your flat and surroundings were delightful.

Many cultures are just one bad harvest away from starvation.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
18. I drove out in the Midwest two weeks ago
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jun 2019

The graineries are full. They are stockpiling corn on the ground. New crop is in. It's gonna hurt.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
30. Nope. Good harvesting no market
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jun 2019

The farmers then take out loans to live on and put their crop onto storage hoping prices go up. Get another big harvest and there is no market, no place to store, and no way to payback the loans they took to live on.


murielm99

(30,741 posts)
23. I have been to the Happy Spot many times.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jun 2019

The Whiteside County Democrats hold their annual fundraiser there. We have our JFK dinner at a nearby golf course. The Happy Spot burned down a couple of years ago, so we have been going elsewhere. I guess they have rebuilt it.

There are a lot of Democrats in Whiteside County. Now is a good time to make inroads on the GOTV over there.

We have a farm in a county adjacent to Whiteside. There will be no crop this year. It just won't be planted.

And I think this may be a "both sides" article. Quite a few of those people will not be voting for Trump. Also, they have a Democratic Congress person who serves on the ag committee and quite a few state reps in the area who are Democrats. We will make inroads.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
24. I just traveled by car from western Missouri to north central Ohio.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jun 2019

Most of the corn in the fields we saw that had actually gotten planted was just emerged. The tallest maybe six inches tall through Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio. The tallest anywhere was maybe knee high, on a sunny hilltop in Missouri.

I feel terrible for these Americans.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
27. I'm in Elkhart Indiana and I drive past several corn fields on my way to work
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jun 2019

They all look the same. Half of the field is still underwater, the other half has corn plants 3-4 inches high when it SHOULD be 3-4 feet high at this point.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
31. Mother Nature is pissed and she is trying to eliminate the problem.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:46 PM
Jun 2019

The problem is us.

This is what we get for trying to fool her.

Itchinjim

(3,085 posts)
32. I live in Scott county, Iowa.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:10 AM
Jun 2019

I am 60 years old and the grandson of farmers. Never in my life have I seen so many fields go unplanted, not set aside for pasture land, but simply unplanted. The crops that are planted are stunted and the fields are patchy with bare spots. This aint good.

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