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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:30 PM Jun 2019

I need to warn folks about Lyrica.

This is kind of a cross post of what I posted in the Health topics. I think it is important that everyone knows what happened to me taking Lyrica. I hope it's OK to put this in GD.

I was taking a Lyrica sample from my doc who is treating my Post Herpetic Neuralgia. He had said to be careful taking it. I thought that meant don't drink when taking it but since I don't drink I thought it was OK for me to drive.

I ended up on a steel barrier, having misjudged it in a turn. I was unhurt but the front of the car was badly smashed up. I could drive it, so I went home (no one else involved).

I now take Gabopentin for my PHN, but I wait 4 hours to drive. Lyrica is also hideously expensive since there is no generic.

Don't get Shingles anyway. Get the shot. I did, fearing I could get Shingles again. It's horrible.

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I need to warn folks about Lyrica. (Original Post) CTyankee Jun 2019 OP
The Shingrix vaccination is the one with highest immunity. Lars39 Jun 2019 #1
and the only one currently available elleng Jun 2019 #3
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2019 #4
I am #80 on the waiting list for this. AllyCat Jun 2019 #6
Me to and they said they only marlakay Jun 2019 #40
I did that. I was on a waiting list at my pharmacy. It came in and boom, get your fanny down CTyankee Jun 2019 #8
I just got mine. Had mild side effects. Ilsa Jun 2019 #31
The pharmacist told me Lars39 Jun 2019 #32
So, so sorry for you. Ilsa Jun 2019 #34
I'll be better prepared this time.... Lars39 Jun 2019 #35
They sprung it on me at the end of my physical. Ilsa Jun 2019 #36
I thought I was being put on a list Lars39 Jun 2019 #37
I was on Lyrica for about a five year period TexasTowelie Jun 2019 #2
Gabapentin has similar side effects - so still be careful. Ms. Toad Jun 2019 #5
My husband took Gabpentin Worried senior Jun 2019 #27
I feel ya. Would say the same about Cymbalta. AllyCat Jun 2019 #7
People my age didn't have the vaccine because it didn't exist when we were kids. CTyankee Jun 2019 #10
Does getting the chicken pox vaccine prevent getting shingles later? mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #12
Largely. Nothing is 100%. AllyCat Jun 2019 #17
But ... vaccines ARE viruses, introduced to your body in a small dose ... hence my confusion (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #19
No. They are dead, attenuated, or partial. AllyCat Jun 2019 #20
Oh yeah? Well that's cool then! And yeah, makes it doubling stupid to NOT immunize! (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #21
From what I read when my sons were little, you ca still theoretically get it. Crunchy Frog Jun 2019 #26
Cymbalta just about killed me. GaYellowDawg Jun 2019 #33
I had the same diagnosis dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #9
For me, during a scary, stressful time of my life, amitriptyline saved my sanity with NO Nay Jun 2019 #16
With every med I have taken lately, the insert says: marybourg Jun 2019 #11
Yes, I know, but I didn't have that with my dr.'s sample (it wasn't in a pharm bottle). He told CTyankee Jun 2019 #15
He should have given you a warning more specific than 'be careful'. Aristus Jun 2019 #22
I think you are right. I should have asked him to be more specific... CTyankee Jun 2019 #24
I got shingles early this year. Staph Jun 2019 #13
may I ask what anitviral shot? IcyPeas Jun 2019 #29
I'm sorry. Staph Jun 2019 #30
Thanks IcyPeas Jun 2019 #38
Valacyclovir (Valtrex) is another one. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #47
I've been wearing Lycra for years and never knew that jberryhill Jun 2019 #14
LOL!! AllyCat Jun 2019 #18
I take gabapentin, so thanks for the warning. ooky Jun 2019 #23
The neurologist I saw told me the pain of post herpetic neuralgia is probably the worst agony Vinca Jun 2019 #25
Did your PHN go away? CTyankee Jun 2019 #28
The worst of it went away - the shooting lightning bolts - within a week or 10 days. Vinca Jun 2019 #41
Opioids really don't work for nerve pain. AllyCat Jun 2019 #43
I was on Lyrica for complex regional pain. (Erthyremalgia) LeftInTX Jun 2019 #39
I had the same issue with Cymbalta, but it DID control the pain. AllyCat Jun 2019 #42
It's similar to Gabopentin fescuerescue Jun 2019 #44
I've been on Gabapentin for well over 20 years. I'm at the highest dose 3,600 mg/day LeftInTX Jun 2019 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2019 #46

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
1. The Shingrix vaccination is the one with highest immunity.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:33 PM
Jun 2019

It’s a two part shot. Get the first one, wait 2-6 months and get the 2nd one.

marlakay

(11,464 posts)
40. Me to and they said they only
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 06:06 AM
Jun 2019

Get a few a week. I am gone for summer. Figure when i get back i should be close.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. I did that. I was on a waiting list at my pharmacy. It came in and boom, get your fanny down
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:53 PM
Jun 2019

to the pharmacy or they move on to the next person on the list. I went immediately.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
31. I just got mine. Had mild side effects.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:55 PM
Jun 2019

About 14 hours after getting the shot, I developed wicked cold shakes and shivering. I had to throw a blanket on the bed and wear a robe when I got up the next morning.

I got the other vaccine about six years ago. Glad this one is 90% effective.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
32. The pharmacist told me
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jun 2019

that the feedback is that the side affects for this one seem to be worse than for other vaccinations. My immune system isn’t that good and I had a bad reaction to it. Ached horribly from head to toe...but having an iffy immune system is precisely why I need the Shringrix vaccine. I’ve already had shingles twice, and hope that will be it.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
34. So, so sorry for you.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:08 PM
Jun 2019

Yeah, I ached the next day, so I took it easy, took ibuprofen. It felt like mild flu.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
35. I'll be better prepared this time....
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:12 PM
Jun 2019

Clean house, all clothes washed up, and food in the house. Last time things fell apart quick lol.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. They sprung it on me at the end of my physical.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:21 PM
Jun 2019

I hope the booster is less disruptive, but I'll try to be prepared for a worse reaction, just in case.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
37. I thought I was being put on a list
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jun 2019

until I saw her with her kit. Hopefully it won’t be as bad the next time.

TexasTowelie

(112,167 posts)
2. I was on Lyrica for about a five year period
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:40 PM
Jun 2019

and when I first started it did have a small buzz associated with it. It is classified as a Schedule V drug so patients are required to visit their physicians frequently in order to get the prescriptions renewed.

Withdrawing from Lyrica should only be done under supervision since it does have depressive/suicidal effects.

When I was taking Lyrica, it was running $315 for 100 capsules. Unless you have a great insurance plan or if you have difficulty making regular doctor appointments, it is probably better to stay on gabapentin.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
5. Gabapentin has similar side effects - so still be careful.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jun 2019

I was on it for most of a year to treat vertigo (I traded dizziness for vertigo - both are bad, the vertigo was worse).

But it is nasty - and lingers.

My spouse took it recently for shingles, but a lower dose, once a day - at night. That minimized her side effects.

Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
27. My husband took Gabpentin
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jun 2019

too and it was awful. We went out for supper and he kept trying to fall out of the chair and kept leaning to the right no matter what he was doing. Fell a few times too so he went off of it and the side effects quickly went away.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
7. I feel ya. Would say the same about Cymbalta.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jun 2019

I took this drug along with gabapentin for the same condition. The withdrawal has been terrible. I am not sleeping, my heat feels like it will burst out of my chest, I sweat constantly, dizzy, feeling of bugs in my skin. It is horrible. Currently not on anything for the past 10 days, but I feel awful.

Good luck and healing to you. I don’t think my face will ever feel the same.

Asked for Shingrix at annual checkup. 3 weeks later got this crappy disease. Going on 8 months of electric shocks in my face. Missed 6 weeks of work.

Don’t get shingles. Vaccinate your kids against chicken pox/ varicella.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. People my age didn't have the vaccine because it didn't exist when we were kids.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:55 PM
Jun 2019

All my grandkids got it tho.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. Does getting the chicken pox vaccine prevent getting shingles later?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:17 PM
Jun 2019

I thought just having the virus in your body (which the vaccine would do) at any point meant you could get shingles later, you didn't have to come down w/full blown chicken pox in your life.

That's really cool if it also prevents shingles!

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
17. Largely. Nothing is 100%.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 02:03 AM
Jun 2019

Shingles is the varicella zoster virus that caused chicken pox disease earlier in life, re-emerging. The virus never goes away. It lives dormant in your nerves forever. It reappears as shingles.

When I hear people say they won’t vaccinate kids against varicella, I tell them all about it.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. But ... vaccines ARE viruses, introduced to your body in a small dose ... hence my confusion (nt)
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 02:08 AM
Jun 2019

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
20. No. They are dead, attenuated, or partial.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 03:18 PM
Jun 2019

The active varicella disease causes the virus to burrow in the nerves and comes out later. If you never get chicken pox disease , you don’t get shingles.

Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
26. From what I read when my sons were little, you ca still theoretically get it.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 06:12 PM
Jun 2019

But apparently, studies have shown that vaccinated children undergoing chemotherapy (depressed immune system) were significantly less likely to get it than children who had actually had chickenpox.

Hopefully the vaccine will confer both life long immunity and much lower risk of shingles.

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
33. Cymbalta just about killed me.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 10:05 PM
Jun 2019

Gave me severe panic attacks and then serotonin syndrome. I was on it for just 6 days and had the withdrawal symptoms you mentioned plus what I called the "zaps" - when it felt like shocks were running from my brain down my body.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. I had the same diagnosis
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 08:55 PM
Jun 2019

my doc prescribed Amitriptyline, a cheap generic anti-depressant which has been approved off label use for nerve pain

totally solved the problem, with the added plus that 3 years alter when I had a mastectomy, I felt none of the nerve pain the surgeon warned me about. blessed relief.

My deal with the doc is ..I want the oldest effective generic there is,
because I am aware that for years now, the pharma companies have not been doing much of the rigorous standard of double blind testing, they are allowed to sell a new drug and it is the customers who are given the FDA number to file side affect information.
and sure enough, we are all used to, by now, seeing the headlines of huge $$$ lawsuits following severe dangerous side affects.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
16. For me, during a scary, stressful time of my life, amitriptyline saved my sanity with NO
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:15 PM
Jun 2019

side effects at all. I bless my doc for sticking with the older, proven anti-depressants.

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
11. With every med I have taken lately, the insert says:
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:13 PM
Jun 2019

“Do not drive or operate machinery until you know how you react to this medication.”

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. Yes, I know, but I didn't have that with my dr.'s sample (it wasn't in a pharm bottle). He told
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jun 2019

me verbally to be careful with taking it. I "interpreted" that as don't drink while taking this drug. And I didn't drink so I figured I could drive OK. Wrong!

Aristus

(66,341 posts)
22. He should have given you a warning more specific than 'be careful'.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jun 2019

If a medication causes altered consciousness, I tell my patients not to drive or operate heavy machinery while taking it.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
13. I got shingles early this year.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:22 PM
Jun 2019

My mom had it 10 years ago, so I knew what the symptoms were. I went to doc-around-the-clock immediately and got the antiviral shot. The rash and pain were minimal and gone within a week.

Now I need to get the Shingrix shot!


IcyPeas

(21,870 posts)
29. may I ask what anitviral shot?
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 08:30 PM
Jun 2019

my mother had this twice. the first time was minimal. then she got it again in her 80s and it was bad. she still has the painful neuralgia from it.

I'm 62 and fear getting this. but I never heard of an antiviral shot. Please explain.

thank you.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
30. I'm sorry.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jun 2019

I've searched through my medical records, but I can't find the name of the antiviral shot. After a Google search, I think it was Zovirax (acyclovir).

But if you get the symptoms, get to a doctor or walk-in clinic immediately. You have to get the shot within 72 hours.


Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
47. Valacyclovir (Valtrex) is another one.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 06:09 AM
Jun 2019

It's a pill you take for ten days.

Knocked my shingles out immediately, but you have to start it quickly (within 72 hours, if I remember correctly). Fortunately, my wife recognized what my odd rash was right away.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. I've been wearing Lycra for years and never knew that
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jun 2019

I’ll definitely change into something else before driving.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
23. I take gabapentin, so thanks for the warning.
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jun 2019

I've been taking it before bedtime so it hasn't been an issue for me so far. Now that I have heard that I will probably keep taking it before bedtime.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
25. The neurologist I saw told me the pain of post herpetic neuralgia is probably the worst agony
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 05:35 PM
Jun 2019

a human being can experience. I remember not being able to walk because lightning bolts would shoot up through my leg. She prescribed gabapentin for me and I ended up taking it for a couple of years. It really helped and I never had any side effects.

Vinca

(50,270 posts)
41. The worst of it went away - the shooting lightning bolts - within a week or 10 days.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 07:08 AM
Jun 2019

A nagging, milder, achy pain lasted for a couple of years. It was more of a nuisance than anything. That was about 10 years ago, but even as near as last spring I had a mild episode for a few days and got panic stricken it was coming back. Luckily it disappeared and I'm fine again. Hope you feel better. It's the kind of pain opioids won't even touch and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

LeftInTX

(25,316 posts)
39. I was on Lyrica for complex regional pain. (Erthyremalgia)
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jun 2019

My gabapentin wasn't work, but the Lyrica made me a freaking zombie!

Other people have had opposite experiences. I thought maybe it was just me.

I only took the Lyrica at night.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
42. I had the same issue with Cymbalta, but it DID control the pain.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 09:22 AM
Jun 2019

Had no luck with nortryptiline but it might be an option for you. Everyone is a bit different.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
44. It's similar to Gabopentin
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 04:23 PM
Jun 2019

So if Lyrica impacts you that much, please be as careful with gaba.

I to take Lyrica for Shingles. Yea. Shingles sucks. I've been taking it for several years now as the nerve damage still hasn't healed.

I can't say that it's hit me like that, but certainly at first it came on stronger than I expected.

LeftInTX

(25,316 posts)
45. I've been on Gabapentin for well over 20 years. I'm at the highest dose 3,600 mg/day
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:44 AM
Jun 2019

I couldn't handle Lyrica at the lowest dose!

(I take gabapentin for fibromyalgia, migraines, possible focal seizures..works great)

When I had intractable burning feet, the gabapentin didn't work, so I tried Lyrica. It totally wiped me out.

I know the two meds have similar chemical names.

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