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lindysalsagal

(20,683 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:29 PM Jun 2019

Oregon GOP hide to ignore climate change bill: IMHO: Fire them if they're hiding.

Who says you can run for office, win a seat, and then hide when you don't like the job???

IMHO: If they're missing, replace them. Period!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/oregon-republicans-remain-in-undisclosed-locations-as-senate-leader-suggests-climate-bill-wont-pass/2019/06/25/f26bcd82-96f2-11e9-916d-9c61607d8190_story.html?utm_term=.1467d780a2c1

By Joel Achenbach and
Maureen O'Hagan June 25 at 8:49 PM
SALEM, Ore. — His weary voice emerging from a speakerphone as he spoke from an “undisclosed location,” state Sen. Herman Baertschiger told reporters gathered in his office Tuesday afternoon that he and his fellow Republicans weren’t ready to return to Oregon.

The hastily organized news conference followed an announcement from Senate President Peter Courtney, the Democratic leader, that he didn’t have enough votes to pass the controversial climate bill that had prompted the Republican senators to flee the state to deny Democrats a quorum.

But Baertschiger said some lawmakers still didn’t want to come back to the state before the session ends Sunday. They fear a trick. They worry that the Democrats may pivot again and scrounge together enough votes to pass the bill.

“It saddens me that we have to do this. This is not easy; it is not comfortable; it is not a good feeling,” Baertschiger said. “This session has been horrible. It has been anything but bipartisan.”
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Oregon GOP hide to ignore climate change bill: IMHO: Fire them if they're hiding. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Jun 2019 OP
Oh.. poor thing. Can't take the heat? defacto7 Jun 2019 #1
Forget pivoting to pass the climate bill... pivot to pass a bill which removes legislators who RockRaven Jun 2019 #2
And what did you say when Democrats did it in Indiana, Wisconsin and Texas? jberryhill Jun 2019 #3
It's not any MORE an illegitimate tactic ... it's just that they're fucked up and wrong ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #4
Well... jberryhill Jun 2019 #5
Sage choice ;) (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #6

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
2. Forget pivoting to pass the climate bill... pivot to pass a bill which removes legislators who
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:48 PM
Jun 2019

miss a certain proportion/days/time of legislative sessions. Nip this thing in the bud once and for all.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. And what did you say when Democrats did it in Indiana, Wisconsin and Texas?
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:48 PM
Jun 2019


https://www.npr.org/2011/02/17/133847336/wis-democratic-lawmakers-flee-to-prevent-vote

Wis. Democrats Flee To Prevent Vote On Union Bill

A group of Democratic lawmakers in Wisconsin blocked passage of a sweeping anti-union bill Thursday by ignoring orders to attend a vote. Instead, they left the state to force Republicans to negotiate over the proposal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Eleven

The Texas Eleven were a group of Texas Senate Democrats who fled Texas for Albuquerque, New Mexico for 46 days in 2003 aimed at preventing the passage of controversial redistricting legislation that was intended to benefit Texas Republicans. A group of Texas House representatives, dubbed the Killer Ds, had fled the state for neighboring Oklahoma earlier that same summer for the same reason. However, the quorum-busting tactic was ineffective as the redistricting plan was later passed.

U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, then a powerful figure in Texas politics, advocated arresting the Texas Eleven, telling reporters that he supported using FBI agents or U.S. Marshals to arrest the runaway Democrats and bring them back to Austin, asserting that redistricting is a matter of federal concern.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/report-indiana-democrats-flee-state-to-shut-down-union-busting-proposal

Report: Indiana Democrats Flee State To Shut Down Union-Busting Proposal

Illinois is about to become the state of refuge for another band of legislative Democrats fleeing their home state to shut down a union-busting proposal.

The Indianapolis Star reports that Democratic members of the state House are heading out of state to prevent the Republican majority from moving forward on a bill “that would bar unions and companies from negotiating a contract that requires non-union members to kick-in fees for representation.”


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I gather you did not support the majority opinion here at DU when those events happened.

Here's one of the DU threads, to refresh your memory:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4743192

Or do you believe this is an illegitimate tactic only when Republicans do it?


 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. It's not any MORE an illegitimate tactic ... it's just that they're fucked up and wrong ...
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 12:33 AM
Jun 2019

Whereas WE ... are on the side of rightness and good.

It's not that complicated.

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