Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
Salma Hayek gets knighted??? For WHAT? For marrying a mega-rich pal of right wingnut Sarkozy?
Clearly, knighting in France has just become one huge joke. With so many remarkable women in France, and this actress who has done nearly NOTHING gets KNIGHTED? No wonder the French are angry.
================ Actress Salma Hayek gains French knighthood Film actress Salma Hayek has been awarded one of France's top honours by President Nicolas Sarkozy. Mexican-born Hayek will become a Knight of the Legion d'Honneur at a ceremony in Paris later this year. The 45-year-old's businessman husband, Francois-Henri Pinault, is an associate of Mr Sarkozy, while his father was also honoured in the New Year's list. Some readers of French newspaper L'Express have said honours should be awarded to worthier recipients. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16412686
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:17 AM
Dreamer Tatum (10,925 posts)
1. WTF do you care? nt
Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #1)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:19 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
2. We already know what you think about most topics. All one has to do is do a search with your name
You need not have responded, you know.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #2)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:50 AM
fascisthunter (29,381 posts)
38. haha... good one
Response to fascisthunter (Reply #38)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
41. :) nt
Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #1)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:30 PM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
55. Is there an objective and peer-reviewed list of things we're supposed to care about...?
Is there an objective and peer-reviewed list of things we're supposed to care about and things we're not supposed to care about?
Or are you simply projecting your own lack of mindfulness of a topic onto others? |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:20 AM
Vogon_Glory (8,638 posts)
3. Ah, well, she certainly looks decorative as well as being smart. n/t
Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #3)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:22 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
4. Decorative, yup. Smart? For marrying a mega-rich dude who got her knighted? nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #4)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:42 AM
Vogon_Glory (8,638 posts)
13. She's Not A Stupid Woman
Salma Hayek is not a stupid woman. From what I've read about and listened to, she's not an empty-brained airhead with poor thinking skills. Whether or not she actually DID anything worthy of being made a member of the Legion of Honor is another matter altogether.
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Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #13)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
15. "Not being a stupid woman" is not a reason to knight someone. Knighting is for REMARKABLE women
Not an ordinary, non-stupid actress who has done a little charity work, but happened to marry a pal of Sarkozy.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:24 AM
Iggo (46,277 posts)
5. A Mexican was knighted in France?
I'm outraged!
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Response to Iggo (Reply #5)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:26 AM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
8. "Only in America," as Yogi Berra would say....
Seriously. That's what he said on being told that the mayor of Dublin was Jewish.
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Response to Iggo (Reply #5)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:31 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
12. Someone who has done almost nothing in life was knighted in France, instead of a woman who has
accomplished a great deal for humanity.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #12)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:38 AM
Dorian Gray (12,951 posts)
103. Not that I'm a huge fan of her
or think she deserved to be knighted, but she's not done "nothing in life" either. She's an advocate against domestic violence, has been a spokesperson for vaccine campaigns and for AIDS research. (Among other charitable endeavors.) Just saying.
http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/116-salma-hayek She's probably been a bigger advocate for international causes than you'd realize. |
Response to Iggo (Reply #5)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
28. You're talking to the wrong person. I'm Latin. Want a list of Latin women worthy of this award?
Salma Hayek??? Give me a break!
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #28)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:49 AM
Iggo (46,277 posts)
37. So? I'm Mexican-American. Big whoop.
A country not my own gave an honorary title of nobility to an actor. I'm okay with that.
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Response to Iggo (Reply #37)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:21 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
42. Well I'm not. I'm for the title going to a LATIN WOMAN that has done MUCH MORE. But the 1% awards
titles and awards to its own and not to the rest.
And btw, as an ASIDE, if you THINK there's no 1% in Latin America, you're sooooo mistaken. Latin countries are the prototype of poverty-stricken countries where the 1% sucks the lifeblood out of the rest. |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #42)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:39 PM
Iggo (46,277 posts)
61. I'm sorry. I guess I wasn't clear.
My "So? I'm Mexican-American. Big Whoop" comment was meant to be in direct reply to your "I'm Latin" comment.
In other words: "You're Latin? Big deal. I'm Mexican-American. So what? Doesn't change a thing." For the record, I don't have an ethnic (or any other kind of) rooting interest in who gets awarded a French knighthood. That's not what I was saying. What I meant in my post that you responded to with "I'm Latin" was that Americans being pissed that a Mexican actor got a French knighthood seems more than a little silly. That's it. Sorry I wasn't clear. As for your aside, I don't see where you get that I think there are no billionaires or poverty south of the American border. That's a huuuuuuge stretch to get to an incorrect conclusion. |
Response to Iggo (Reply #61)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:33 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
71. Sure, sure, right.
![]() You figured I was an anglo or a non-Latin and were going to hit me with the bigot thing, until my admission that I am Latin. As for your assertion that Americans are angry that a Mexican got selected, my responses were spot on. This has nothing to do with Mexicans, and everything to do with the fact that someone got picked for this merely because she's married to a French billionaire who is a pal of Sarkozy, and no other reason. Excellent Latin women who have spent their entire lives working for all manner of causes would never have been considered. Why? Simple, because they simply were not married to the billionaire who is the REAL object of this award. The world is reacting to this knighting of Salma Hayek with anger or as a huge joke. |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #71)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:36 PM
Iggo (46,277 posts)
76. What the fuck are you talking about?
You brought race into it. Not me.
My post was about nationality. |
Response to Iggo (Reply #76)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:37 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
77. Really? Re-read your posts. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:25 AM
HappyMe (20,277 posts)
6. Oh the humanity!
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:26 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
7. Don't know what they use as standards, still I'd not say she's done nothing
She has produced many excellent projects that otherwise might not exist, she's an Academy Award nominee as an actress, and she does some good work speaking for immigrant's rights, opposing violence against women and is an advocate for several other issues as well.
Not nearly nothing. A great deal. Sorry. I know, she's like a woman, and all pretty and stuff, so it is fun to say her large set of accomplishments are 'nearly nothing'. Should she get knighted? Don't know. Has she done lots of things in the world? Yes she has indeed. Not into the trashing of artists. She's an accomplished person. That's just how it is. |
Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #7)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:30 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
11. There are countless AMAZING women in France.
This is a waste.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #11)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:43 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
14. Did I say otherwise? No, I did not. I said she has done many things, you say 'nearly
nothing' and I do not agree that she's done nearly nothing. I strongly disagree with that statement. That's all I said. Also, what you said was not 'there are amazing women in France' you said this one woman has done nearly nothing. Which is just incorrect.
See I am taking issue with your statement, as it is inaccurate. Regarding Ms Hayek. More than one male, non French actor has gotten this award. This is the case for many years. So it is not new nor different to award an actor, nor a non French person. |
Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #14)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:49 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
19. My point is that this is not a remarkable woman. There ARE MANY remarkable women on this planet
MANY! An endless number. This one is not one.
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #7)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:42 AM
Dorian Gray (12,951 posts)
104. Yep
The diminishing of a woman because she's beautiful and an actress into a "she's done nothing" is a problem. A quick internet search shows that she's not done "nothing."
I have NO problem with questioning how she was knighted, but I don't like the dismissal of her because she's Salma Hayek, actress, either. |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:27 AM
liberalmuse (18,581 posts)
9. Money buys power, and titles.
But what I want to know is, what do knights do these days? Do we now call her 'Sir Salma Hayek'? I'm pretty ignorant on the whole modern day knight thing.
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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #9)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:29 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
10. Money does buy power and titles, and rights. nt
Response to liberalmuse (Reply #9)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:17 PM
Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)
58. I think she's a "Dame"
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #58)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:58 PM
Buns_of_Fire (15,838 posts)
87. That might be only in England. The "Dame" thing, that is.
But that's as far as I'll carry it. Too many opportunities to make a misstep. Nope. Not gonna do it. Wouldn't be prudent.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:47 AM
madrchsod (58,162 posts)
16. how else could he get close to her without seeming obvious ???
Response to madrchsod (Reply #16)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
22. How else could Sarkozy get friendlier with that mega-millionaire? :) nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:48 AM
inna (8,809 posts)
17. sounds like something out of the Onion. wow, thanks.
Response to inna (Reply #17)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
21. It does! Unfortunately, it's true. More and more bs goes on. The world is sounding like The Onion
Isn't it?
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Response to inna (Reply #17)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 09:19 PM
Catherina (35,568 posts)
92. That's what I thought at first.
Some relatives in France called me shortly after I reading. Of course I brought it up. They're still pissed.
If I wrote what my aunt said, a jury would hide my post. Imagine someone giving the Medal of Freedom to the foreign wife of Bush Sr's best buddy and saying it was because she sat on a few charities. Sarkozy just can't keep himself from cheapening the entire Presidency while he screws over the 99% in France. |
Response to Catherina (Reply #92)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:52 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
108. I'd love to know what your aunt said! Sarkozy trips over his own feet worshipping billionaires
He's just an ordinary right winger, so we shouldn't expect anything but the most crass behavior.
And so, from Sarkozy's point of view, it was either knight the multi-billionaire Frenchman's wife (Hayek), or kneel before the multi-billionaire and kiss his private parts. ![]() He chose the former. |
Response to Catherina (Reply #92)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:19 PM
Occulus (20,599 posts)
120. meta
"If I wrote what my aunt said, a jury would hide my post. "
I didn't think about it until you said that, but... isn't that a fairly major flaw in the system, that it would give us cause to completely omit another person's words to us? |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:49 AM
Codeine (25,586 posts)
18. Seems like an awful lot of effort on Sarkozy's part
to get Salma Hayak to kneel in front him.
And he'd probably STILL be shorter than her! |
Response to Codeine (Reply #18)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:50 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
20. lol Yes, and it's a waste of an award except for Sarkozy, who is now even tighter with her hubby
the mega-millionaire. Money talks, doesn't it?
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:55 AM
snagglepuss (12,704 posts)
23. More evidence of the control wielded by the 1%.
Contemptible that a minor celeb is awarded such a high honor.
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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #23)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:56 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
24. It is contemptible. And you're right, the 1% does it again. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:59 AM
SaintPete (533 posts)
25. Activism
Hayek's charitable work includes increasing awareness on violence against women and discrimination against immigrants.
On July 19, 2005, Hayek testified before the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary supporting reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. In February 2006, she donated $25,000 to a Coatzacoalcos, Mexico, shelter for battered women and another $50,000 to Monterrey based anti-domestic violence groups. Hayek is a board member of V-Day, the charity founded by playwright Eve Ensler. Since the birth of her daughter, Hayek has worked to help mothers in developing nations worldwide, teaming up with Pampers and UNICEF to help stop the spread of life-threatening maternal and neonatal tetanus. She is a global spokesperson for the Pampers/UNICEF partnership 1 Pack = 1 Vaccine to help raise awareness of the program. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salma_Hayek Does she deserve the knighting? Maybe, maybe not. Who really cares? Does she deserve your insults and scorn? - not a chance... |
Response to SaintPete (Reply #25)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:06 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
29. There are PLENTY of Latin women who do that precise thing and deserve this award FAR MORE than
this woman. But, oh yeah, I forgot! They didn't marry a PAL of right wing Sarkozy.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #29)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:42 AM
SaintPete (533 posts)
35. Sounds like the problem
is yours, not hers.
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Response to SaintPete (Reply #35)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:45 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
36. No. The problem is that knighting is something the 1% do for the 1%, no others need apply. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #36)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:50 AM
SaintPete (533 posts)
39. OK. So what?
why are you upset about this? It affects you not, and is completely ceremonial.
If they want to have their little titles and honors, let them. Or fight it. But why let it make you angry? |
Response to SaintPete (Reply #25)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:41 PM
JNelson6563 (28,151 posts)
85. Thank for those facts.
I thought I had read of her work for these causes in the article you posted. Thanks for posting that. I don't understand the scorn being heaped on her.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:02 AM
Dr. Strange (25,658 posts)
26. When France gets attacked by a dragon and Hayek armors up and kicks that dragon's ass...
I expect to hear some serious apologies from some of you people in this thread.
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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #26)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:04 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
27. LOL!! Yeah. :) nt
Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #26)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:45 AM
Dorian Gray (12,951 posts)
105. Ha ha ha ha ha
Best post in thread.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:10 AM
Johonny (18,078 posts)
30. because you know no one has ever been knighted for totally stupid reasons
in European history before. Pointless titles given to the upper class aren't like exactly a new European tradition.
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Response to Johonny (Reply #30)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:16 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
31. Yeah I know. The 1% knight their own, and Salma Hayek became the 1% when she married that
pal of Sarkozy.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #31)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 06:05 AM
TorchTheWitch (11,065 posts)
98. somehow she couldn't possibly be in that 1% on her own
You know, because she's pretty and all, so she couldn't possibly have any accomplishments of her own, must be dumb as a brick and just couldn't possibly have earned a place in the 1% category through her own efforts without having to marry some dude (and of course, since she's pretty and all she just couldn't possibly have married the dude for any other reason than money because even though she's a well-known and accomplished actress she must be a broke gold-digging hussy).
Your frequent misogynist attacks on attractive women - or for that matter any woman you disagree with on something - is really getting tiresome. But what is so irksome is that for someone who purports to be so against misogyny some of the worst objectifying and dehumanizing of women I've seen on this forum has been coming from you yet you seem entirely oblivious to it. As far as Salma Hayek receiving a knighthood is concerned, the only thing to be upset about it is that in this day and age there are still European countries that cling to the trappings of class divide and the ridiculous notion of nobility by still having a monarchy, titles for the modern gentry-by-birth and pass out knighthoods... all that's missing is the jousting and a few beheadings. |
Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #98)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:41 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
107. The fact is, her husband's father, a multi-billionaire, is going to be knighted as well. Her
husband's father and her husband are intimate friends with Sarkozy. This is not the first time Sarkozy the right wingnut does something like this. Right wingers never knew an award that couldn't advance their cronyist desires.
As for her accomplishments, ask me to name Latin women who have done a million times more than this woman, and dedicated their whole lives to it. This woman is getting an award from Sarkozy as a pat in the back to her husband, who is his pal. That's what the worldwide objection to this is about. |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:19 AM
onenote (39,021 posts)
32. Being named a Knight of the Legion d'Honneur is a minor honor
Good grief. Knight (or more correctly "Chevalier"
![]() Do you think that there was no one more "qualified" (based on whatever it is that you think consists of the qualifications for this yawn of an honor) than those particular "Knights"? If you want to criticize the awarding of honorary "knighthoods" by the French to foreign actors, actresses, political leaders, I can understand. But to single out the award to one actress as somehow being that egregious compared to the others? |
Response to onenote (Reply #32)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:24 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
33. You're right. Someone else mentioned that. The 1% knight their own, and not because they're worthy
It's all a thing of the 1%, for the 1%.
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Response to onenote (Reply #32)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:40 AM
snagglepuss (12,704 posts)
34. The Puss and Boots actress is not in the same league as DeNIro. Many in France
aren't happy with this decision.
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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #34)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:34 PM
onenote (39,021 posts)
47. Were they thrilled with Putin?
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:05 PM
EC (12,287 posts)
40. She is an activist and champian of human rights.
She promotes the arts and promotes education of the history of South America. Both her and Antonio Bandarras do a lot of work in human rights. I'm just guessing, but maybe that's why?
And on edit: For the work she has done for women's rights and her arts projects I admire her very much. Oh and her work exposing the South American 1% in different movies etc. I think we should be giving her applause. She has done some really good work showing how the elites took over countries and used the countries riches for personnal gain...much like is happening here now. Even her movie Freda shows how liberals (socialists) were persecuted. I'm glad she made those movies and exposed who the bad guys really are. |
Response to EC (Reply #40)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:41 PM
Catherina (35,568 posts)
84. But we know that's not why she received it. Many French women and men who've done much more
weren't even considered.
Sarkozy's just giving his Gucci friend another decoration for the mantlepiece. I have nothing against Hayek, except her ridiculous comment thanking God for the big boobs she prayed for as a child. Because of your posts, I googled her charity work. I don't know how complete this is. It's good stuff but is it really enough to get another country's top award? If she weren't married to Pinault, there's no way she would have gotten it. If you read about the Pinaults, they're 1% exploiters. Her father-in-law, Sarkozy's pal, is the 74th wealthiest person in the world. http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/10/FUBG.html Don't you find that very unfair to poorer people, especially French, who don't have those kind of connections but spend their whole lives helping others either at home or abroad? Charity biography
Mexican actress Salma Hayek is highly active in raising awareness about violence against women and discrimination against immigrants, and since the birth of her daughter last year, has added campaigns helping children to her list of charity works. Her own charity, the Salma Hayek Foundation, which previously supported organizations giving aid to and raising awareness for battered women, has now branched out to work with disadvantaged children on the streets of Mexico, helping them to overcome problems such as drugs, violence or lack of education. As a spokesperson for the Pampers 1 Pack = 1 Vaccine campaign, she helps raise awareness and funds which allow UNICEF to provide tetanus vaccines to pregnant women, protecting the women for up to 15 years, and their babies for several months after the birth. She says of the program: “I have long been a supporter of every child’s right to health and happiness. As a new mother, I’m thrilled to help Pampers and UNICEF raise awareness of their initiative to provide tetanus vaccines to those at risk.” Hayek took part in the America: A Tribute to Heroes charity telethon for victims of 9/11. Hayek breastfed a desperate mother’s hungry baby during a fact-finding trip to Sierra Leone, Africa, in 2008. Salma received the Cookie magazine “Smart Cookie” award in 2009 for her active participation in charity since entering the realm of motherhood. http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/116-salma-hayek Salma Hayek joins forces with HRW to stop violence towards women
Salma Hayek recently joined the Human Rights Watch (HRW) organization in hope of asking presidential candidates in Mexico to commit to the prevention and punishment of crimes against women. Hayek, HRW, and 65 other social groups in Mexico and U.S. got together to make this call an open letter that was sent to candidates running for office in July.Hayek believes that every Mexican deserves a president that will end all these ridiculous killings against women. Non-government organizations have stated that for the last 13 years, more than 400 women have been murdered or have "disappeared" in Ciudad Juarez, in the state of Chihuahua. "It's outrageous that Mexican women must live afraid of the killers harassing them on the streets," Hayek stated. Jose Miguel Vivanco, HWR director in the Americas, stated that "despite some efforts done by the government to investigate these brutal crimes, women are still being kidnapped, tortured, and killed in Mexico." http://www.soulfrito.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=7&Itemid=39 |
Response to Catherina (Reply #84)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 07:58 PM
EC (12,287 posts)
88. It looks to me like she is using her good fortune
to help others... What do you want? She's not forgetting or ignoring what is really going on in the streets of the countries around her and she is doing what she can. As far as the knighthood, I congratulate her and do not begrudge her. Yes, I'm sure there are others that deserve some recongnition and I'm sure they will be rewarded someday, by someone. So don't disparage one, because there are others.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:24 PM
bikebloke (5,258 posts)
43. So that's why she turned me down.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:26 PM
okieinpain (9,396 posts)
44. uh, have you seen the way that women looks. I would knight her in a
heartbeat.
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Response to okieinpain (Reply #44)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:00 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
52. I have a list for you to knight. :) In fact, turn on the TV or watch any movie. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:29 PM
DataException (38 posts)
45. I'm all for it....
She's hot!!!
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Response to DataException (Reply #45)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:00 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
53. That does it. I vote for you to knight all the Barbie females on TV and movies! :) nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:29 PM
tjwash (8,219 posts)
46. Come on, be honest....who HASN'T had fantasies of Salma in a suit of armor wielding a longsword?
Or is that just me?
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Response to tjwash (Reply #46)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 01:46 PM
A Simple Game (9,214 posts)
49. No, no it's not just you. n/t
Response to tjwash (Reply #46)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 01:59 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
51. Well, why not knight the frikkin' Kardashians, while we're at it? :) It'd be just as good. nt
Response to tjwash (Reply #46)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:21 PM
Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)
59. There isn't a foundry in Europe worthy to make her breastplate, though
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:51 PM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
48. lots of celebrities get knighted
Sean Connery, Elton John, Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Rolf Harris, Henry Cooper, Bob Geldof, Paul McCartney, George Martin, Ian McKellan, Ralph Richardson, Christopher Lee, Roger Moore, Terry Wogan, Mick Jagger, Salman Rushdie, Bono, Nick Faldo, Terry Practchett, Alfred Hitchcock, Edmund Hillary, Barbara Cartland, Ben Kingsley, Kiri Te Kanawa, Alan Sugar, Bob Hope, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Andre Previn, Bill Gates. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_celebrities_have_been_knighted#ixzz1ibiqGdON |
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #48)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
50. That's true. BUT RONALD REAGAN WAS KNIGHTED? For what? For being an a-h??? nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #50)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:13 PM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
57. dunno, I just copied the whole list
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #57)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:36 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
75. Scary if Raygun was knighted! nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:48 PM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
56. I like Salma Hayek
I'm really happy for her
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:29 PM
Norrin Radd (4,959 posts)
60. Performers are usually made a knight in the Order of Arts and Letters, there.
I wonder why they didn't give her that one, instead? Would've quelled a lot of angst.
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Response to Norrin Radd (Reply #60)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:16 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
65. Sure would've.
The French are angry at Sarkozy about this. On the other hand, if it gets Sarkozy's right wing behind out of office, it might have been worth it.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:40 PM
dameocrat67 (475 posts)
62. I thought knighting people went out with the revolution anyway.
n/t
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Response to dameocrat67 (Reply #62)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:23 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
68. Apparently not. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:46 PM
tabasco (22,974 posts)
63. I promise, I'll be outraged next week.
Really.
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Response to tabasco (Reply #63)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:21 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
66. I'm going to make you outraged right now lol :) Read Salma's latest comment about her implants:
"FoxNews.com adds a sort of snarky postscript noting that Hayek last month told BBC gabshow host Graham Norton that as a child she prayed to Jesus for large breasts. “I went to a church that had a saint that was supposed to do a lot of miracles,” Hayek said on The Graham Norton Show. “I put my hands in the holy water and went: Please Jesus give me some boobs.” http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/136593351.html |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #66)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:34 PM
EX500rider (8,512 posts)
94. Looks like Jesus answered her prayers to me....lol (n/t)
Response to EX500rider (Reply #94)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:58 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
109. Dr. Jesus :) nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #109)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 05:09 PM
EX500rider (8,512 posts)
112. Well Jesus works in mysterious ways! lol (n/t)
Response to EX500rider (Reply #112)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 05:50 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
113. Sure does! I wonder if Dr. Jesus has a website and offers financing for lipo. lol nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #66)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:41 PM
Dorian Gray (12,951 posts)
110. I didn't see the interview in question
but is it possible that was said tongue in cheek? It sounds like something I'd say tongue in cheek if asked on Graham Norton's comedic BBC talk show about my large tatas.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 03:55 PM
Dawson Leery (19,326 posts)
64. France no longer has a monarchy yet the titles still exist.
This award is given out to powerful people as a symbolic gesture of the alliance between powerful people.
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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #64)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:22 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
67. Yup. This award was not even given to her. It was given BECAUSE she married a multi-billionaire.
Period, end of story.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
69. And here is an article from New Zealand on the issue...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/6213879/Outrage-over-Hayeks-Knighthood France's highest order of merit has been branded a joke after the Mexican-born actress Salma Hayek was made a Knight of the Legion of Honour. News that the 45-year-old was to become a Chevalier among other actors and singers prompted one former minister to refuse the award, while others warned it would see Napoleon ''turning in his grave''. President Nicolas Sarkozy has the last word on who receives the Legion of Honour, created by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1802 in his attempt to replace nobility with a republican meritocracy. Hayek is married to the billionaire Francois-Henri Pinault, whose business interests include the Gucci fashion label and Christie's auction house. He is also a close friend of Mr Sarkozy's |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #69)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:22 PM
Catherina (35,568 posts)
81. That's disgusting but so is everything about Sarkozy.
Sarkozy has made this such a joke that Former minister Henri Torre has turned down receiving the Legion of Honor this year after he learned that Hayek, among others, would also be given the honor. "Too many people have been nominated who do not deserve to be honored," he said. "They have made a mockery of this high distinction by naming any old people.”
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/851941/does-salma-hayek-deserve-be-knighted-in-france |
Response to Catherina (Reply #81)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:33 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
83. Yup. Sarkozy is right wing. They have no idea what meritorious means.
Look at GW Bush, the poster boy for idiots and cronyism.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:26 PM
Poll_Blind (23,864 posts)
70. Imperial honors, titles of nobility and heredetary monarchies can fuck off.
I really love that in America you do not have to recognize a title of nobility. May seem like a small thing but it's very nice.
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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #70)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:34 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
72. It is. However, we DO have nobility. Occupy calls it the 1%. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:34 PM
Enrique (27,461 posts)
73. knights are different in France
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Response to Enrique (Reply #73)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:35 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
74. LOL! Knights in France have implants. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 04:49 PM
Beaverhausen (24,278 posts)
78. You seem overly obsessed with this whole thing
really, why is this such a big deal to you?
Put some energy toward something more important...say...there are millions of children starving in the world. |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 05:58 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
79. Proof positive that Repukes read DU (or infiltrate it). My original post made it on a wingnut site
LOL!
Someone emailed me the link. I burst out laughing when I saw it. It's actually an honor to be bashed by the 'pukes. I think it's a good guideline. If the 'pukes hate it, you know it's a noble and good thing. ![]() |
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:25 PM
Monk06 (7,675 posts)
82. Why shouldn't she be a French knight? She's already a Mayan Queen.
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Response to Monk06 (Reply #82)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:56 PM
BOHICA12 (471 posts)
91. She's friends to pythons .....
Response to BOHICA12 (Reply #91)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:10 AM
Monk06 (7,675 posts)
95. Pythons need friends and she made Quentin Taratino suck beer off her toes.
Wait a minute QT directed this. So we know where he stands regarding toe sucking and licking Julette Lewis' pussy, which is also a line from this early and quite demented Tarantino flick. On the other hand Tito and Tarantula got featured which is a plus. |
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 06:47 PM
Bake (21,977 posts)
86. I'm too outraged at stuff in THIS country to worry about who France knights.
There's only so much outrage I can produce.
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Response to Bake (Reply #86)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:45 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
89. True. After the 3 decades of Repukes destroying our country, this is
literally nothing.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #89)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:22 PM
11 Bravo (23,574 posts)
116. Your dismissal would ring slightly more true had you not posted repeatedly to this thread ...
which you fucking initiated.
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:53 PM
BOHICA12 (471 posts)
90. Well ... For Dusk til Dawn ... enough said nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:55 PM
FSogol (43,517 posts)
93. French Knights? Is no one going to say it?
"You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called "Arthur King," you and all your silly English K-nig-hts."
and "I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries." |
Response to FSogol (Reply #93)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:13 AM
Monk06 (7,675 posts)
96. You silly English Kniggetts.........
Go away or will taunt you a second time. |
Response to FSogol (Reply #93)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 06:13 AM
eridani (51,907 posts)
101. He's REPRESSING me! You saw it! n/t
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:22 AM
aikoaiko (33,165 posts)
97. She has magical boobies that can feed the world.
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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #97)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:18 AM
FSogol (43,517 posts)
102. That's easy for her to say....
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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:47 PM
roody (10,840 posts)
111. She deserves it for giving us 'Ugly Betty'.
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:58 PM
cemaphonic (4,138 posts)
114. for some perspective
You know who else has a knighthood? This guy:
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Response to cemaphonic (Reply #114)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:05 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
115. Who the hell is that man??? nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #115)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:07 PM
cemaphonic (4,138 posts)
117. Elton John
I mean, who else would be playing the piano while wearing a duck suit?
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Response to cemaphonic (Reply #117)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:31 PM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
118. Good heavens! He looks utterly different! nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:59 PM
marasinghe (1,253 posts)
119. look at it this way Sarah - if the aristocracy has respawned in France ....
Madame la Guillotine can't be far behind.
plus, i think it's okay her getting it, just for her work in "Desperado"; though Banderas is much more deserving. let it go. having to genuflect -- or whatever asskissing she had to do for the ceremony -- to the Sarkozy piece of shit, is punishment enough. if you think it isn't, just dwell on the fact that she has to have sex with that rich arrogant bastard she's married to. |
Response to marasinghe (Reply #119)
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:01 AM
Sarah Ibarruri (21,043 posts)
123. lol Too true. nt
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:43 PM
flvegan (64,185 posts)
121. This thread is awesome.
Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:47 PM
Quartermass (457 posts)
122. If she's an American she's in a lot of legal trouble.
It's illegal for Americans to have a title of nobility.
She may have done nothing to deserve it, but so what? Why shouldn't she get knighted, other than for being an American? Is there any other good reason why she shouldn't? |