Good Article on what Nancy Pelosi is working on....

[chowder66]

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Pelosi’s sensitivity to public sentiment requires her to keep tabs on three fronts.

The first is the Democratic caucus. She constantly monitors and measures the mood of her colleagues. She rotates through her office the House Democratic leadership, a wider leadership group called the Steering and Policy Committee, the chairs of various legislative committees, and the leaders and members of dozens of disparate caucuses (the Congressional Black Caucus and the conservative Blue Dogs, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, the Congressional Progressive Caucus and the moderate New Democratic Caucus). Then she goes to ground, conferring with members one-on-one. Not everyone knows what everyone else is thinking. She and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer do. It’s how they shape consensus.

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But “this moment in time” does not mean “all moments in time.” Pelosi, remember, believes it’s possible to shape public sentiment. That’s why she’s unleashed her committee chairs to fully exercise their oversight responsibilities by investigating every facet of potentially impeachable offenses: Jerry Nadler of the Judiciary Committee, Adam Schiff on Intel, Maxine Waters on Financial Services, Elijah Cummings on Oversight and Reform. They may find a smoking gun—incontrovertible evidence that crystallizes public support for impeachment and maximizes pressure on House Republican incumbents in moderate districts. Then Pelosi will have achieved her goal: a broader public consensus for impeachment and stronger, if not necessarily overwhelming, bipartisan support.

Progressives worry that if Democrats avoid impeachment with this president, they will set a bad precedent. Just how bad must things get? Fair enough. But for Democrats there’s a worse outcome: a premature impeachment that acquits and helps result in the reelection of Trump with a loyal Republican majority in Congress, an expanded Republican majority in state legislatures, and a permanently hyper-conservative judiciary.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/nancy-pelosi-public-opinion-and-timing-matter/591385/

[wryter2000]

1. Someone finally said it

"But for Democrats there’s a worse outcome: a premature impeachment that acquits and helps result in the reelection of Trump with a loyal Republican majority in Congress, an expanded Republican majority in state legislatures, and a permanently hyper-conservative judiciary. "

We must do impeachment right, if we're going to do it. It has to involve everything the committees come up with, and it has to be timed to absolutely ruin his chances for "re-election."

[chowder66]

3. Yep. I agree with the strategy. If she can build public sentiment then it's on but if not

she has a job to do that goes beyond impeachment. This is the clearest outline I've read of what she has to manage and the path she takes to get there... but the public may not bite hard enough and if that's the case she has to secure our parties chances of winning seats.

[StarfishSaver]

2. Thanks for posting this. It's what I've been saying all along.

[chowder66]

5. You're welcome and yes, I've seen your posts saying as much. nt

[Me.]

4. Excellent Article

very informative

[chowder66]

6. : )

[leftstreet]

7. Wouldn't hearings increase "public support for impeachment?"

All I see on the news is Trump. And more Trump. And Trump on top of Trump

Trump claiming his greatness, claiming he's doing a great, excellent, super job! Spouting racist, sexist shit. Starting his reelection campaign!

Trump, Trump, Trump

[chowder66]

8. Yes but many people are refusing to testify. Though Mueller will be testifying soon. nt

[PunkinPi]

9. K&R, thanks for the article. nt

[chowder66]

10. Thanks for reading it! nt

[mountain grammy]

11. I read the article.

So much to admire about the Speaker. I love how she tells reps to educate their constituents and that she understands unity is strength. But I believe impeachment hearings should begin now. This is way too far to go.

[Ramsey Barner]

12. I don't think "going to ground" means what you think it means!

"Then she goes to ground, conferring with members one-on-one."


go to ground
to hide from people who want to catch you, usually for a long time
The General is believed to have gone to ground in a secret location.

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/go-to-ground

[bucolic_frolic]

13. My money's on Maxine!

and I think it pays 7 to 1

[Cartaphelius]

14. If all that has occurred, already,

failed to "tip the scale", for impeachment now, then someone, besides whats-its-hairpiece, has been lyin' to all of us....

So I say B.S. (buger snot)

[erlewyne]

15. All I can say chowder66 is

Thank you, thank you very much.

[Goodheart]

16. Well, here's where she's playing that wrong...

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Instead of sending the message that she will not impeach at all she should be saying we WILL impeach when but only when we have sufficient evidence to do so (and of course we already do). In that way, an ultimate impeachment, which certainly should occur, can be portrayed as having progressed because of substantial cause.

[erlewyne]

17. Trump prefers to be impeached to what Nancy has in store

Nancy wants him in prison for unpardonable crimes.

[Goodheart]

18. Why can't it be both?

[uponit7771]

21. +1

[erlewyne]

23. it's one or the other

double indemnity

[chowder66]

19. Nancy is saying she is not for impeachment to avoid showing bias which the republicans

pounced on but they can't keep pouncing since she said she is not for it (at this time).
She is supporting and encouraging investigations and if those lead to solid impeachable offenses and the momentum grows from the citizens then she will support impeachment. If they can't get there then it's her duty to do what she can, where she can and that is to protect our seats, win more seats and stop Trump from getting elected.

[uponit7771]

22. "and stop Trump from getting elected." ... how ?! he's already said he's going to cheat

[mcar]

20. Wow! Common sense