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On RNC Opening Night, Republicans Dare to Build a LieCharles P. Pierce
Esquire
TAMPA, Fla. It was about halfway through the speech given by Mary Fallin, by the grace of a pitiless god the governor of Oklahoma, where I finally came close to losing it. She rolled herself into this remarkable passage:
The history of my great state of Oklahoma offers a great example of pursuing the American Dream. It was built and settled by pioneers movibe west to seek better lives. During the Great Land Run of 1889, thousands of families rushed to put a stake down on empty plots of land. They built tent cities overnight. They farmed the land and they worked hard. And, in 1897, eight years after the land run, a handful of adventurous pioneers risked their own money not the federal government's money to drill Oklahoma's first oil well, the Nellie Johnstone. By doing so, these early-day pioneers changed the future and Oklahoma forever and today Oklahoma is one of the nation's key energy producers and job creators. President Obama wants us to believe that Oklahomans owe that success to the federal government to the Department Of Energy,to the EPA, to the IRS, or maybe even to him. Mr. President, we know better. As we say in Oklahoma, that dog won't hunt.
Handed in as a seventh-grade history essay, this would get no better than a D. Delivered to the convention of one of our only two political parties, it was perhaps the most singularly dishonest speech I have ever seen a politician give, and I grew up in Massachusetts, and Willard Romney was once my governor. My god, Oklahomans wouldn't even have Oklahoma without the federal government, without the Homestead Act of 1889 or the Railroad Act both, by the way, achievements of a Republican presidents named Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Harrison. And the land wasn't exactly "empty," Governor. It got emptied by a big-government program called the United States Army. You know what your state would be without the federal government, Governor, without the votes for the legislation from congressmen from the east and north, without the soldiers from New England and the Great Lakes? You know what Oklahoma would be?
Sand, with a whole lot of pissed-off Native Americans.
The rest: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408
Scuba
(53,475 posts)That resource belonged to all the citizens, not just those wealthy enough to afford a drilling rig.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Of the USA to be granted that position in our society. Which should be yanked away if they continue to disrespect the nation as a whole. Ignorance is worse than anything and it's all the GOP is peddling.
Rustycup
(41 posts)the democrats don't run on the fact the rich cats are taking our resources for free. Alaska nationalized their pipeline. If they can do it why can't we do it on a national level? If we are going to have the Keystone pipeline then we should get a return on our investment? Frame an issue and lets see the Republicans defend why oil companies making $20,000 a minute can't pay a few pennies to the U.S. government.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)actually being interested in their citizens, and wanting to enrich their own country, as opposed to the USA where multinational corporate interests take precedence. Just a guess.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Sarcasm thingy here.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)But I do know enough about the scandinavian governments being invested in their own countries, in their own citizens, in comparison to the USA. So I feel like that's probably a good guess.
maddiemom
(5,179 posts)(Spoken as one of Norwegian heritage).
FSogol
(47,623 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Great piece!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)these days. The man is a national treasure.
LeftinOH
(5,648 posts)courtesy of the US Army. Thus, the whole damn state is a government giveaway.
coldbeer
(306 posts)I have a wonderful life and own my half-acre. Well, of course I
pay taxes and honor that commitment. I know my land was stolen.
But, it is a dog-eat dog world and we have to work together and
share instead of being so selfserving. I could not have been
successful and have the honor of paying taxes without help from
our government. Government represents my fellow citizens.
Not paying taxes is nothing to be proud of.
this sarcasm? "I know the land was stolen, but it's a dog eat dog world"? Typical american mentality on the slaughter of nations of human beings.
coldbeer
(306 posts)"The land was stolen" should have been "this land is stolen".
The intent was for the settlers to take the land. Dog-eat-dog
means this is the way it always happens. Buying Manhattan
with beads is a silly concept. There is nothing I can do about
the past. History repeats.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)on that
defacto7
(14,162 posts)where eastern tribes were relocated. They were forced to walk from North Carolina to Oklahoma on foot. Some of my ancestors were lucky enough to have survived it if living on a reservation in OK. was survival.
Sooners... a bunch of Irishmen racing across the west killing anything that moved.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)It was already plowed and developed by American Indians. Hell, much of the land had homes, fully furnished and built, crops and fields, all belonging to Native Americans before they were forced off. The settlers just pushed the Indians off and took what the Indians had created and built up.
They didn't build it, they stole it. Thanks to the help of the US FEDERAL Army.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Now that is a stone-cold classic.
bleever
(20,618 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)You either have to compress the Hell out of it; or you have to have a wholly Hell lot of it in one place.
I think I know which one he's alluding to.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in Tampa is so strong that not even a sub-atomic particle of truth can get out.
longship
(40,416 posts)Oh! The huge manatee!
mgc1961
(1,263 posts)I also liked this one:
"After listening to this laughable bafflegab for a spell, you begin to wonder whether or not the U.S. military is a rather large venture-capital concern with anti-tank weapons."
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)This is a particularly good example, but all of his stuff is good.
See also:
The Ghost of Todd Akin and the RNC Ladyparts Dance
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/#ixzz24wzcgpgj
(Best headline ever, no?)
Smilo
(2,031 posts)n/t
steve2470
(37,481 posts)Did Ted Cruz really quote Martin King in this hall? Did Artur Davis, the newly minted Republican turncoat from Alabama, just cite Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and Lyndon Fking Johnson as examples of "leaders" who "reached across the aisle"? Lyndon reached across the aisle? Yeah, he did, and he grabbed their peckers and put them in his pocket, and he didn't give them back until the skinflint bastards coughed up Medicare.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I support, not this Captain Bipartisanship bullshit we're witnessing now. I *hope* to retire within 12-17 years, and God only knows what awaits my generation (and those that follow) with regard to Medicare!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Somebody's memory ain't so good.
janet118
(1,663 posts)That would be mildly amusing if it weren't such a complete revision of history. The Republicans spent nearly every second of the Clinton presidency trying to beat him to a pulp with any weapons they could lay their hands on. Just like they're doing to Obama now.
BumRushDaShow
(169,761 posts)She is originally from Missouri.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Everyone works together to build something and the 1% come in and steal it afterwards.
The funniest part is that anyone would worship and want to become the 1% after that.
avebury
(11,197 posts)basis. She does as she is told. I don't think she has an original thought in her head.
LuckyLib
(7,052 posts)the Republican bankruptcy:
"But the Republican Party did something remarkable at its convention on Tuesday. It set out on an experiment to see exactly how much unmitigated hogwash the American political system can contain on a single evening. The Republican Party has set out at its 2012 convention in search of the Event Horizon of utter bullshit. It has sought to see precisely how many lies, evasions, elisions, and undigestible chunks of utter gobbledegook the political media can swallow before it finally gags twice and falls over dead, leaving the rest of America suckers all the same. What you didn't see in primetime, from Arthur Davis to Ted Cruz, and from one 2016 contender to another, was the GOP embarking upon the task of seeing exactly how much nonsense it could produce at top volume before democracy screams and gives up, like Noriega in Panama when they played the metal music at him.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Nailed it.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)"sand, with a whole lot of pissed-off Native Americans".
My uncle from OKC once commented that my hometown, where streets are named after states in the US, does not have an Oklahoma street. I figured that was because the city of 12,000 was not big enough to have enough streets to include all 50 states.
What I did not know at the time was that Oklahoma, like Vermont, was not even supposed to be a state. As probably most DUers know, before Oklahoma was opened to white settlers in 1889, it was first set aside, (and forcibly populated) as permanent Native American territory.
As Donald J Berthrong wrote in 1976, the settlement looked like this from the Native American side
Of the millions of acres once controlled by the tribes, they now retained only 529,692 acres. Even that small remnant would in another ten years begin to slip away from their possession because of the acts of Congress and the greed of land-hungry farmers and landjobbers. 181
At high noon on April 19, 1892, between 25 and 30,000 settlers made a run into the Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation, and immediately began a new era for the Cheyennes and Arapahoes. The tribesmen had long been in contact with white men, but never as neighbors and never in such overwhelming numbers. Within a few hours, the Cheyennes and Arapahoes became a minority, constituting about 10% of the population among the farmers, small ranchers, and inhabitants of the small towns in the six counties that had formerly constituted the Cheyenne-Arapaho Reservation. As citizens of the U.S. and Oklahoma Territory the Indians in theory possessed all the rights and privileges of citizenship with their lands and property protected from alienation under the terms of the Dawes Act and other legislation. In practice, however, it was difficult to guard the Indians against the prejudices and the avariciousness of the new residents and officials of the Cheyenne-Arapaho country. 182
Yet Pierce wants to make sure the Federal Government gets credit for this?
The other part I would scoff at is the Governor's claim that "Oklahoma is one of the nation's job creators".
Oklahoma is one of the poorest states in the region. Oklahoma's neighbors are Kansas, Arkansas, Texas, New Mexico, and Colorado.
Here's median income in 2010
Oklahoma - 43,400
Kansas - 46,229
Arkansas - 38,571
Texas - 47,464
New Mexico - 45,098
Colorado - 60,442
US - 49,445
Oklahoma's poverty rate of 15.6% makes them 44th. Meaning they have a higher poverty rate than 43 of the other 49 states. (although better than their neighbors Arkansas and Texas who are 45th and 46th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate)
Oklahoma DOES have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation, but seems to have created a mere 60,000 jobs in the last 3 years whereas a state like Minnesota created over 100,000 in the last two, but Oklahoma has clearly been helped in this recession by basically being a member of OPEC.
Still, considering their poverty rate and their median income, I wouldn't brag about their economy.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)reveals a very bad face lift. I do not understand why, when the facial reconstruction decision is made, the person the goes w/ the cheapest bid. You have chosen to be a public figure. You lead w/ your face. Spend the extra $7500. Your vanity stops at your wallet?
Sedona
(3,872 posts)NT
B Calm
(28,762 posts)they did it all on their own. . Whoosh!
Blanks
(4,835 posts)However, they took the land from someone else. At least that's consistent with their thinking.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)Earlier, though, Christie rang the theme of the evening's overriding demonstrable lie, too. He talked about how his family Built It, his Irish father and his Sicilian mother.
They both lived hard lives. Dad grew up in poverty. After returning from Army service, he worked at the Breyer's ice-cream plant in the 1950's. With that job, and the GI Bill, he put himself through Rutgers University at night to become the first in his family to earn a college degree.
Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408#ixzz24xKaX9Ot
Does he not hear himself? "[with] the GI Bill, he put himself through Rutgers..."
Talk about an oxymoron!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)geardaddy
(25,392 posts)get the red out
(14,031 posts)Maybe that's why so many Republicans favor "creationism".
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)tclambert
(11,193 posts)It says so in the Bible. Or maybe the official Republican Party Platform. It's in some sort of Holy Scripture.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021225838
Harold Meyerson did a good job of summing up what we are being presented with today, IMHO. Not so much pushing my OP, but this is the mentality they're stuck with.
Cosmocat
(15,424 posts)Gov. Mary Fallin said Thursday she is pleased the federal government has approved disaster assistance for one Oklahoma county that was ravaged by wildfires and that she'll continue seeking aid for three others also affected.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/fce9d4ccf8154a189d47d731f5384c31/OK--Oklahoma-Wildfires-Fallin
formercia
(18,479 posts)..although it wasn't intentional.
The Trail of Tears ended on top of one of the largest Oil deposits in the Nation.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)I'm not sure what you're saying, really.
formercia
(18,479 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 30, 2012, 12:16 PM - Edit history (1)
..what the Oil companies didn't steal first.
I had a Cherokee neighbor in Oklahoma who was rather well off as a result. Without that revenue, the Tribe would have been very poor.
I must admit, it will never make up for the pain, suffering and loss of land, imposed on them by Andrew Jackson.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)I get that people are proud of their success. But the Party of Whitewash needs to own, humbly, what that success was built on over generations, and give thanks and a hand up to the people whose ancestors were being beaten, robbed, infected, starved, stolen from and killed so theirs could succeed.
patrice
(47,992 posts)so they invited themselves and THAT was a sight to see!
Rest in Peace, Chief Wilma Mankiller, knowing you did good work for your people.
Sat nam!
ceile
(8,692 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)nt
deutsey
(20,166 posts)livingonearth
(728 posts)That was done by government. All those proud Oklahomans would be part of France right now if the government hadn't bought their state for them.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)mcar
(46,058 posts)Just brilliant
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)??
Atman
(31,464 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)So they traded daily commodities, salaries, with what, then? Home-made gold coins?
That MONEEEEE they invested had to be printed on 'somethin' by 'someone', no?
Caeser67
(156 posts)that ran my Great-Grandparents, my Grand-Parents, and a host of other relatives out of the state during the Tulsa race riots of 1921.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)a lot of lynchings and drownings.
I read about that. A horrible, horrible TRUE reflection of what america then and the current republican party represents now for minorities, and this time women, school children(headstart)and the chronically ill are at risk. You know mitt robme's religion tells him he's a god walking the earth, what chance do us mere mortals have against a god??!!!
Cha
(319,079 posts)but, Charlie Pierce makes it ever so palatable. Thanks Will.
A comment under his column from FB..
"My husband, former Republican, got up after listening to Ann Romney for a few minutes and said, "I can't listen to her B.S. anymore," and got up and walked out of the room. And that's a man who did NOT want to relinquish his father's party..... but luckily woke up to the extremity that they have become."
tclambert
(11,193 posts)and digging river channels to irrigate the farmlands he cleared. How he put the oil there I'm not sure.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)taking the white man's money because of his greed.
Using that money to benefit their tribes. Using it to buy land and putting that land in non-profit organizations, so that the taxing authorities can't tax it. At least in South Dakota.
I love it.
malaise
(296,118 posts)K & R
theinquisitivechad
(322 posts). . .that they'd actually have a better grasp of history. . .
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)We The People Built That! is my new motto.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,725 posts)Charlie Pierce rocks.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)How do people get into American politics without knowing any American history? Once elected they tell inadvertently revisionist stories to the American people who wisely nod their heads and wet their pants in teabagging excitement.
jsr
(7,712 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)Yeah, I thought so. Just like the rest of this country. It wasn't empty by any stretch of the imagination.