So I get a new explanation from a MAGAt about his greatness

[rufus dog]

Blue States took a huge hit from the tRump "Tax Cuts"

The 10k limit on State and Local Income Taxes (SALT) hit the blue states hard.

To provide an example I will use Neighbor 2 as an example. Bought his house for around 900k, to keep it simple we can call it 1 million.

Taxes on his home would be about 17k per year, but he would be capped at 10k. Ignoring all other factors he would lose 7k of deductions plus interest deduction, so in all about 40k. Resulting in about 15k of higher taxes due to the tRump "Tax Cut."

His take, tRump is penalizing blue states to make them get in line with other States. A genius move to make all States better. Now this was stated as a good thing. So I commented, we are already taking CA tax payments and sending them to those other "good" states. So in fact we were sending 23% of our tax payments to the "good States" and now will be sending even more money to the "good States."

If we are a "bad State" why do we need to subsidize the "good States" and why is tRump using income redistribution to penalize "bad States?" Shouldn't it be the opposite?

He said jack shit, point being, they will never vote Dem, they will never admit to their ignorance. There is no use reaching out to them. There is no reason to compromise, even when hit with a huge penalty they find a way to justify their ignorance.

btw, Evangelical Christian. We see this with the farmers, we see it with the Evangelicals. Thers is now hope.

[TalenaGor]

1. wow....here's one for ya....

My husband's uncle.... otr truck driver (current address: my couch) deadbeat dad, says "well you put a fence around your house don't you? what's the difference if we put one around the country?"

And my personal favorite "all politicians lie, at least Trump lies out in the open he doesn't try to hide it"

These are actual for real quotes....I shit you not....

[JustAnotherGen]

2. I've seen it on Governor Murphy's social media

I just use the welfare states vs maker states. Calmly. I've had eight 45 devotees say "Oh - I didn't know that!"

it's a start - but in NJ - .62 cents on the dollar over and over and over.

[calguy]

3. No amount of evidence

can convince them of a truth they refuse to accept.

[Baitball Blogger]

4. No. We'll never reach them.

My conversation with a conservative Dem just convinced me that we shouldn't be chasing any Dem who is conservative because they are DINOs. She blamed Obama for the 2008 recession when he wasn't even in office, still complaining about the flag pin issue and said that she wouldn't vote for any of the Dems currently running because she wants someone who won't give our country away - she was concerned about immigration.

That is not a Dem. That is someone who has been hanging around a very right-wing conservative crowd.