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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsImagine publicly boasting for weeks about an event where you
were going to deliver the greatest speech ever. You have choreographed the production with aircraft overhead, tanks parading in the street and all branches of the military. OK you didn't get the tanks parading.
Then in this 'historic' speech' you say Revolutionary War Troops 'Took Over the Airports'
https://time.com/5620936/donald-trump-revolutionary-war-airports/
He did not even know what the fuck he was saying. Think long and hard about what he said without even pausing. This man is insane.
He is not competent enough to be a dog catcher. It was hilarious but it is much more than that. He is an absolute and complete buffoon - a naked emperor.
That was one of the biggest fuck ups in a speech in all of history. And not one ReTHUG has had anything to say.
Come on Hillary - just give us a 'he said what'?
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Put the attention on him. If its complimentary all good, if its negative it is fake news, but all the attention continues to be on him so its a win.
malaise
(296,098 posts)This is absolute madness on display and his absence from twitter is proof. He knows he fucked this up royally.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)All he wants is attention and he is certainly getting plenty of it.
Roy Rolling
(7,632 posts)Theres an even dumber themeit was all done to provide images for a Trump campaign TV commercial.
Im somewhat familiar with the costs of production, the cheap-ass Republicans just got American taxpayers to foot the bill for their Trump-worship commercials.
Its just that simple, July 4th With Don was another underhanded way for Republicans to steal from the treasury.
And the star blew his performance like the moron he is.
The whole over-budget production was all to counter this image/concept of Trumps military expertise: 
And now I wonder who of Trumps friends got excessively paid to participate in this publicly-financed spectacle masquerading as a campaign commercial.
malaise
(296,098 posts)a July 4th spectacle.
FM123
(10,372 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)and it sure missed - what a flop
FM123
(10,372 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)He continues to be inundated with deserved ridicule - and the stable genius can't take it. He knows he fucked it up royally.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Don't people understand that he clearly knows that he is being laughed at around the World? He knows, but he also knows that he is taking a dump on the country he was born every day. Every day he pulls down his pants and he lays down a huge dump on top of the USA, and no one does anything about it.
Yes, the emperor has no clothes, but there is no one to call him out, so he parades in the nude, farts when he wants (republicans applaud), takes a dump wherever he wants (republicans applaud), and no one does anything about it.
Why is Pelosi refusing to start the impeachment proceedings? Many people have provided the blueprint to do it, no need to send it to the Senate, so that excuse if not valid. To defeat him on 2020? REALLY? What has been done to prevent the cheating? Don't tell me you 't think the voting machines were not hacked? What is being done to prevent Russia and other countries to help elect the creature?
So...Sherman A1 is correct, the creature likes to lead the conversation, he is the greatest decoy the republicans have ever had, he makes noise, they destroy behind the scenes.
We need to start sending emails, tweets to Pelosi, she needs to understand that not impeaching will be more detrimental than impeaching. As a matter of fact, I think impeaching the creature and his crooks will be a positive thing for Democrats, we need the truth to come out.
None of this matters as long as Reeps enable him
and Dems refuse to start impeachment proceedings.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,291 posts)Nobody can accuse him of not being regular. Not being normal, yes, not being regular, no.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Be patient.
In the meantime, the orange abomination continues to shit on all our democratic institutions, attack our allies, suck up to tyrants, and make America the laughing stock of the world.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Let's draft her.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Is it possible Pelosi is not moving forward with impeachment because she knows that he won't make it to the 2020 election for one reason or another and impeachment would be pointless and possibly harm the democratic party going into the next presidential election?
Just bouncing around ideas, but it's still a year and a half away and it's very possible that he may not be a contender by that point.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)major polling companies need to start taking and publishing polls showing how the Democratic candidates stack up in an election against Pence.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Nothing makes me happier than infuriating him to the point of dangerously high blood-pressure.
KentuckyWoman
(7,401 posts)I am of the belief the Republicans WANT us to know there is a maniac at the helm with a bunch of yes men generals behind him who will do any crazy thing he wants.
This stunt showed us both.
1. He is a maniac.
2. The military is now willing to cater to his every whim.
roscoeroscoe
(1,825 posts)2. 'Cater to his every whim' - Just like during the Bush administration, the military has been placed in a tough position.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)progree
(12,975 posts)From the White House transcript of the speech
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/revolutionary-war-airports-trump-white-house-transcripts_n_5d213c35e4b04c4814153beb
The Continental Army suffered the bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown.
Our Army manned the air (inaudible), it rammed the ramparts. It took over the airports. It did everything it had to do. And at Fort McHenry, under the rockets red glare, it had nothing but victory. And when dawn came, their Star Spangled Banner waved defiant.
Besides taking over airports during the Revolutionary War
Besides ramming the ramparts
Besides the Army manning the air (inaudible) -- whatever inaudible might have been, it wouldn't have made sense
Trump also erred in his remarks when he said the American army was named after George Washington (it wasnt)
and that the Yanks defeated Gen. Charles Cornwallis of Yorktown. Cornwallis was from London; he was defeated at Yorktown
and the Fort McHenry stuff with the rockets red glare and the flag was still there -- is the War of 1812, not the Revolutionary War
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)This was more and much more worrisome than that. This is more like his brain totally disengaged from his mouth and went on a walk about while his mouth kept rambling nonsense.
It's not just the words he said either. If you listen to that part his whole speech pattern went off... Not just stumbled but like his mouth had no clue what to do. To someone who has cared for dementia and stroke patients and family members it was very disconcerting.
malaise
(296,098 posts)They hid Reagan for less
FakeNoose
(41,631 posts)... who actually knew what they were doing. In those days people were held accountable and they understood how the government worked. Reagan was flaky (in his 2nd term especially) but it didn't matter. The government still ran like clockwork most of the time.
I don't want to go back to those days though. If we could redo any President's time in office I'd like a redo for Bill Clinton. If Clinton hadn't gotten sidetracked by the blowjob impeachment, we would have ended up in a way better place by 2000. Wishful thinking.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)A Reagan or Trump are perfect for their plans
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)maddiemom
(5,179 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)No, I think he is so ignorant that he has no sense of history, his brain is not capable to understand that airplanes had not been invented at the time. I bet anyone asks him about the brothers Wright and he won't know who they are.
But make no mistake, he is happy to have commanded the conversation, he is a decoy after all, his mission has been accomplished for that day.
malaise
(296,098 posts)particularly given the exposure of the British Ambassador's leaked comments about him.
He is an idiot. I get your point about the decoy but this should take them all down.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Trump is being ridiculed over this, although, yes, that's attention, a Narcissist cannot handle ridicule.
Keep up with the airplane jokes I'm sure he is not a happy camper.
I have been saying for a long time that he is not stupid, he is mentally ill. Maybe he didn't take his antibiotics for his syphilis? When he says things I believe the opposite. I remember he said his Vietnam was avoiding those STD's, well maybe he didn't avoid them?
malaise
(296,098 posts)and he cannot take this one back.
You nailed it
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)I think there has always been something wrong with his personality and emotional well-being. He had trouble in school and they resorted to a military academy where he continued to be wild.
He does not exercise. He doesn't eat right. He doesn't listen to wise people. And now he's old and his parents both had dementia. It would be amazing if he didn't have some kind of degeneration!
Add to that the normally high pressures of the Presidency, for which he is vastly unqualified.
His biggest weakness is his arrogance. All his stupid acts start there.
Chellee
(2,300 posts)For the pressure to get to you, you have to care about doing a good job. He's running things like his business. He listens to no one. He makes an outrageous statement, his minions defend him, he tests the wind, he adjusts the statement, he denies that any previous statement ever existed. I think that this is how he's lived his entire life, nothing has changed for him. Earthquake in California? so what, those people won't vote for him anyway. Denying children the basics of life? So? They only exist to be used by him, and he's doing that. Explosion in Florida? Cleared real estate in a good location. What a profit opportunity for investors!
Yes to absolutely everything else you said, but the pressures of the presidency? Nah. He doesn't feel any of it.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)For him the pressure comes in the form of keeping his base intact. Self interest is his only motivation to do anything!
KG
(28,795 posts)he has only the vaguest idea of whats going on outside whatever room he's in
malaise
(296,098 posts)That alone is madness
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Being rich and incompetent means you can get away with a lot. And people are afraid to try to correct you so you might not even know how bad you look.
njhoneybadger
(3,911 posts)Because he was tipped off that Epstein was going to be arrested at the airport
malaise
(296,098 posts)I think the California earthquake and the non-stop rain in DC made his madness worse than usual - I mean how can anyone not know that there were no planes or airports at the time. That is mind-blowing. No sane person with a minimum knowledge of anything would say that.
njhoneybadger
(3,911 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)
Mc Mike
(9,260 posts)producing spectacular all star media event spectacles.
Hey, rememeber when his spectacular 2016 convention show made his 'net negative approval' margin increase? He's as competent as the stereotypical boss's son, always, in every field of endeavor in which he operates.
watoos
(7,142 posts)His popularity will never increase.
Mc Mike
(9,260 posts)He fails, they tell us more people love him. Then he fails, then we're told he got a bump.
malaise
(296,098 posts)He's as competent as the stereotypical boss's son, always, in every field of endeavor in which he operates.
Mc Mike
(9,260 posts)Any half assed lie he belches out of his sphincter like mouth is good enough to tell the American public.
Croney
(5,017 posts)We could figuratively have been manning the air by being in control of the airspace overhead, with cover fire. You don't ram ramparts, you breach or circumvent them. His word salad confused the word "rampart" with "airport" and he used "take over" because ramming ramparts didn't seem right.
Ilsa
(64,368 posts)saying he has a form of dementia.he knew "ramparts" was part of the speech but his brain also looked for other similar words and he spoke without thinking.
Vinca
(53,993 posts)stage and the tanks. Only the VIP donors had their "up close and personal" tank experience. Gomer needs to know it's going to cost him 6 figures to get what's advertised. On the other hand, they did get one hell of a history lesson.
malaise
(296,098 posts)Vinca
(53,993 posts)MAGA, MAGA, MAGA
Afromania
(2,809 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)I hope some Democratically aligned PAC will produce an ad close to the election showing all the major gaffes like this one to call into question his mental stabilitybecause it is a major question. Trumps delivery of that speech was wooden, as if he were semi-drugged, and then he got confused and tried to cover it.
If he has the beginnings of dementia, it will be even more obvious closer to the election because it will not get better. Nancy and others around Raegan successfully hid his dementia so he could be reelected. Are Trumps acolytes doing the same? If so, who is actually making the decisions that Trump is coached on so he can be the public face? My guess is Jared and Ivanka because they have gotten rid of everyone around Trump who had a brain and any kind of independent thought, aided by Stephen Miller on immigration. Perhaps thats why Ivanka felt entitled to force her way into a discussion by real world leaders.
malaise
(296,098 posts)because it is a major question
llmart
(17,617 posts)Just take a look at his eyes in some of those pictures. That is not a normal look.
malaise
(296,098 posts)His type is very disturbed when rain spoils his parade. Remember how he lied about rain at his inauguration.
mgardener
(2,360 posts)I think dementia is more on target.
He also sent a tweet out earlier that day saying "air craft one" instead of "air force one". His own plane. That he has been using for the last 2 years.
He stated the teleprompter stopped working and he had to improvise.
He could not come up with the right words or context. Or finish his thoughts in a coherent manner. He mixed up 2 different wars and made a bizarre statement about planes; they obviously were not even invented at the time.
We see this on a daily basis. He also, obviously does not know the history of the US.
A half hour study of the war of Independence would have given him the facts he needed to give a knowledgeable speech on such an important day.
Either he could not have been bothered, or he could not remember the facts. Which is worse?
I could never agree with most of what he said, but videos of his conversations and interviews in the past, show a verbal and coherent Trump. We do not see it now, nor have we seen it in the last 3 years.
I think we are dealing with a POTUS that is displaying signs of dementia. Along with his sociopathy, it is a dangerous combination.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)If that's possible. Or maybe just screwed with the electrics in the damn thing?
Nevertheless, you're right. He sounds nothing like the Donald from 10 years ago.
Neema
(1,181 posts)started spewing the utter nonsense he was. First of all, anyone else would have rehearsed the speech multiple times and would be able to ad lib with some degree of accuracy even if the teleprompter failed. Secondly, anyone else, even reading it for the first time wouldn't be talking about ramming ramparts and Revolutionary War era airports.
malaise
(296,098 posts)Malignant narcissism is a mental illness
safeinOhio
(37,651 posts)to a huge crash. It ain't going ta be pretty.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,957 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)gop has!! Remember that. There is nobody in the gop who can run against him. Russian money controls the entire group, and Don the Con is Vlad's choice. He is doing exactly what Russia wants done, destroying the entire democracy, and taking down the USA. As long as the money still flows, he will be their KING. The voting machines should be replaced ASAP. Did you know that Ivanka has a trademark on voting machines???
Ferrets are Cool
(22,957 posts)avebury
(11,196 posts)asked her if she had heard about Trump's speech. They listened to the entire speech. I asked her what she thought about the airport comment. None of them caught that comment.
It boggles the mind that no one cuaght it. She and her husband are not Trump fans but her son is.
Niagara
(11,850 posts)
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Even if the teleprompters stopped working,
what intelligent person would go on to say the Colonial troops took over the airports?
malaise
(296,098 posts)No person with half a brain would talk about airports in the Revolutionary War.
moose65
(3,454 posts)If you watch the video, you can see that he reacts as if something did happen to the TelePrompTer- he pauses and stumbles over the word he was speaking, and he seems to short-circuit! Obviously he had no idea what came next in the speech, so its almost like he just started saying the words to the Star Spangled Banner! Do you think he even knows what a rampart is? You dont ram a rampart or take over one.
Most people, when giving a speech, have practiced and read over it so many times that theyve pretty much memorized it. Obama never looked like he was looking at the TelePrompTer, and neither did either Clinton. Of course, Trump doesnt read, so every time he gives a speech it seems like hes seeing it for the first time.
Can you imagine the uproar from the deplorables if Obama or Hillary had talked about airports during the Revolution? They still bring up Obama saying 57 states, which is a textbook example of misspeaking. Of course, he meant to say 47. Some of them are convinced that Obama thinks there are 57 states!
The emperor has been naked for 2 1/2 years. When is it going to sink in??
NoMoreRepugs
(12,076 posts)is worshipped by tens of millions of Deplorables w tens of millions of guns and hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition should scare the crap out of everyone in this country.
hlthe2b
(113,957 posts)I guess we can all hope we live long enough to look back on this era for the mortifying, but much denounced period it surely should be.
Pluvious
(5,395 posts)While we are all just mesmerized and triggered watching the ShitShow we CAN see.
Dark days.
Living in interesting times IS a curse !
spanone
(141,609 posts)gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)progree
(12,975 posts)From the White House transcript of the speech
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/revolutionary-war-airports-trump-white-house-transcripts_n_5d213c35e4b04c4814153beb
The Continental Army suffered the bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown.
Our Army manned the air (inaudible), it rammed the ramparts. It took over the airports. It did everything it had to do. And at Fort McHenry, under the rockets red glare, it had nothing but victory. And when dawn came, their Star Spangled Banner waved defiant.
Besides taking over airports during the Revolutionary War
Besides ramming the ramparts
Besides the Army manning the air (inaudible) -- whatever inaudible might have been, it wouldn't have made sense
Trump also erred in his remarks when he said the American army was named after George Washington (it wasnt)
and that the Yanks defeated Gen. Charles Cornwallis of Yorktown. Cornwallis was from London; he was defeated at Yorktown
and the Fort McHenry stuff with the rockets red glare and the flag was still there -- is the War of 1812, not the Revolutionary War
MFM008
(20,042 posts)For a multitude of campaign commercials.
He had one out before noon on the 5th.
Thats why he stuck to his idiotic speech.
A tax payer funded commercial.
Period.
End of story.
ooky
(10,922 posts)What a tool.