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Pelosi: Acosta must step down. (Original Post) mobeau69 Jul 2019 OP
Those who voted for him knew that, too! True Blue American Jul 2019 #1
Good. We need to keep Epstein's connections with this administration front and center.(nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #2
The responses to her are damning of her Beringia Jul 2019 #3
Good thing she has a thick skin, unlike others in Congress, Else she'd be in twitter wars with ehrnst Jul 2019 #20
Her son and Ivanka in a photo together? Watchfoxheadexplodes Jul 2019 #4
Huh? shanti Jul 2019 #36
This is what I am talking about watoos Jul 2019 #5
You are right Bettie Jul 2019 #8
In a shocking turn of events Bettie Jul 2019 #11
Maybe she can not impeach him, too Alpeduez21 Jul 2019 #6
Now is the time that talk matters, watoos Jul 2019 #7
What a ludicrous thing to say. MrsCoffee Jul 2019 #9
I'd dismiss and trivialize her too.. if I lacked anything of substance to offer. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #18
Are you sure you're on the right board? ehrnst Jul 2019 #22
So what are YOU doing about it? George II Jul 2019 #29
Her very next tweet should have been . . moreland01 Jul 2019 #10
This was well known before he was appointed and before six Dems voted to confirm him. nt Autumn Jul 2019 #12
9 voted to confirm (counting King) Celerity Jul 2019 #19
I had forgot about Tester and Menendez. Autumn Jul 2019 #21
every Senator, no matter what party, knew he was dirty, the Miami Herald exposed him nationally Celerity Jul 2019 #28
he needs to be prosecuted, resignation isnt enough questionseverything Jul 2019 #40
Which ones voted for him? n/t shanti Jul 2019 #37
There were 9 counting King. I can always count on Celerity to be on top of it. Autumn Jul 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author shanti Jul 2019 #39
Where Acosta came from... TryLogic Jul 2019 #13
Acosta to Pelosi: "No, thanks" jberryhill Jul 2019 #14
You're on a tear this am. Do you need some coffee? ehrnst Jul 2019 #24
Haul his ass to the House and make him testify Trenzalore Jul 2019 #15
Oh, she would never do that jberryhill Jul 2019 #16
Armchair quarterbacks always know that they could TOTALLY win the Superbowl ehrnst Jul 2019 #23
You put him in front of cameras and ask questions Trenzalore Jul 2019 #30
Can't answer? ehrnst Jul 2019 #31
I did answer Trenzalore Jul 2019 #32
Nothing like resorting to attacking a strawman when one gets called out... ehrnst Jul 2019 #33
Lol Trenzalore Jul 2019 #34
Lol ehrnst Jul 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jul 2019 #25
You mean like they did Hope Hicks? ehrnst Jul 2019 #27
K&R UTUSN Jul 2019 #17
Chuck Schumer just echoed Speaker Pelosi on the Senate floor. spanone Jul 2019 #26

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
1. Those who voted for him knew that, too!
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:50 AM
Jul 2019

I am beginning to understand why Lindsey Graham did such an about face. Wonder what they have on him?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Good thing she has a thick skin, unlike others in Congress, Else she'd be in twitter wars with
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jul 2019

of them all day instead of doing her job.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. This is what I am talking about
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:17 AM
Jul 2019

This is what Democrats should be doing. I will praise them to high heaven when they speak out.

Now, I saw that Ted Lieu tweeted about Acosta resigning, we need every darn Democrat screaming for Acosta to resign. Where is the majority leader Steny Hoyer?

Democrats need to push this because it will force Republicans to defend a pedophile protector. C'mon Democrats, follow Pelosi's and Lieu's lead, I can't hear you.

Bettie

(16,091 posts)
8. You are right
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:41 AM
Jul 2019

put the pressure on.

Time to call my two whack-job republican senators and ask their staffers oh-so-innocently why they condone protection of pedophiles and how, exactly that serves our nation..

Bettie

(16,091 posts)
11. In a shocking turn of events
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:50 AM
Jul 2019

I actually spoke to a staffer in Grassley's office...first time ever for the DC office. Weird.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
6. Maybe she can not impeach him, too
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:04 AM
Jul 2019

Right up her alley to talk big but not be brave enough to act in the interest of America. She puts party before country. Just the other side of the coin to me.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. Now is the time that talk matters,
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:34 AM
Jul 2019

Democrats need to be talking in a unified voice to keep Acosta on the front page. Force Republicans to defend a pedophile protector.

I would like to see AOC and her 3 amigos get on board with Pelosi on this.

Anyone see Steny Hoyer?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. I'd dismiss and trivialize her too.. if I lacked anything of substance to offer.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:20 AM
Jul 2019

Chocolate coins with a thin, gilded veneer of tin often look real when viewed from a distance.

moreland01

(738 posts)
10. Her very next tweet should have been . .
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:43 AM
Jul 2019

since "This was known by @POTUS when he appointed him to the cabinet.", then he too should #TrumpResign.

Celerity

(43,328 posts)
19. 9 voted to confirm (counting King)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:20 AM
Jul 2019
https://thinkprogress.org/acosta-confirmed-labor-secretary-53694f7ab57/

Catherine Cortez Masto (NV)
Heidi Heitkamp (ND) gone
Joe Manchin (WV)
Claire McCaskill (MO) gone
Bob Menendez (NJ)
Bill Nelson (FL) gone
Jon Tester (MT)
Mark Warner (VA)
Angus King (ME) Independent


Republicans — and some Dems — stand by Acosta amid Jeffrey Epstein charges

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/08/alexander-acosta-jeffrey-epstein-1402230

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“If he made a mistake or a judgment call or something like that, does that affect the way he’s doing his job now? I’m going to basically judge him on what job he’s doing and how he’s doing it,” said Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), who voted to confirm Acosta. As far as calls to resign, he said: “I’m not getting into that feeding frenzy.”

Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.), the chairman of the party’s campaign arm, said she would need to see an internal report from the Justice Department before she could answer whether she regrets supporting him. Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) said he wasn’t aware of Acosta’s involvement with Epstein and doesn’t “have any thoughts about it.”

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But among the six Democratic Caucus members and dozens of Republicans who supported Acosta’s confirmation in 2017 and are still in the Senate, there was no such call. Some said they were concerned about the new charges about Epstein and were following the case closely, but others said Acosta’s handling of the case doesn’t preclude him from doing a good job as Labor secretary.

“I’ve got concerns about every nominee that I’ve ever voted for in administration, with a couple of exceptions,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.). “I have to get more information on it.”

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Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), who voted for Acosta, said he was “very concerned” and that the Labor secretary should have been “more forthcoming” during his confirmation hearing in 2017.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said she did not understand why the victims of Epstein’s abuse were not notified of the agreement negotiated by Acosta in 2008 — as required by federal law — and she urged the Office of Professional Responsibility to “immediately” look into its circumstances.

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Celerity

(43,328 posts)
28. every Senator, no matter what party, knew he was dirty, the Miami Herald exposed him nationally
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jul 2019

before the vote for confirmation.

Trump labor nominee talked tough on sex crimes but gave billionaire a ‘sweetheart’ deal


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article136073328.html

By Jay Weaver and Patricia Mazzei

jweaver@miamiherald.com

MARCH 03, 2017 07:00 AM, UPDATED MARCH 03, 2017 09:31 PM

A decade ago, a Miami Beach father who traveled to Cambodia to pay for sex with three underage girls was found guilty in federal court and convicted of sex tourism involving children. Kent Frank, 50, was sentenced to 40 years in prison. Miami’s U.S. attorney at the time, Alex Acosta, declared in a news release that society “cannot permit such individuals to seek sanctuary in our community.” “We will prosecute sexual abuse of children aggressively, both when the targets are children in our community and when the defendants travel to target children abroad,” he vowed.

But Acosta, now President Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of labor, made a very different call in another, far more sordid case just months later. The agreement Acosta approved for Palm Beach billionaire Jeffrey Epstein — a “sweetheart plea deal,” according to attorneys for Epstein’s victims — could come back to haunt his Senate confirmation hearing if any senators question Acosta’s judgment in one of the most high-profile cases of his career. Using his private staff to coordinate the illicit sexual activity, Epstein had paid dozens of girls cash to engage in nude massages, masturbation, oral sex and intercourse in his palatial mansions in Palm Beach, New York City and the U.S. Virgin Islands between 1999 and 2005.

Epstein, then 55 and defended by an all-star legal team, pleaded guilty to a state charge of soliciting minors for prostitution. He registered as a sex offender in Florida and agreed to pay damages to 40 female victims ranging in age from 13 to 17 years old. As part of the plea agreement negotiated by Acosta’s office, Epstein wouldn’t be charged in federal court — even though the feds had drawn up a proposed 53-page indictment that carried potential punishment ranging from a mandatory 10 years in prison up to a life sentence. Epstein ended up serving just over a year in a Palm Beach County Stockade — while local authorities allowed him during his incarceration to go to work or do whatever he wanted for six days out of every week.

Acosta’s “non-prosecution agreement” — initially kept secret from Epstein’s victims — was signed by the billionaire and his lawyers in September 2007 and amended through the end of that year. The deal also immunized several of his co-conspirators from federal prosecution, a rare bonus. “Clearly, Epstein received preferential treatment due to his wealth, race and political connections,” said Miami attorney Joel DeFabio, who — citing the Epstein case — tried unsuccessfully to obtain similar treatment for two clients accused of running prostitution rings involving minor girls.

“The charges against Epstein were outrageous, and the evidence was more than enough to obtain a conviction at trial. The fact that Epstein’s wealth enabled him to hire a stellar legal team should not be a valid reason for such a gross disparity in treatment,” DeFabio said. “This matter should be explored by the [Senate] confirmation committee to ensure that Acosta will be committed to equal treatment under the law of all Americans and that he will never give preferential treatment to the wealthy and politically connected.”


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Response to Autumn (Reply #38)

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
13. Where Acosta came from...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:04 AM
Jul 2019

Wikipedia: "Following law school, Acosta served as a law clerk to Samuel Alito, then a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, from 1994 to 1995."

Alito, the justice who thinks that free speech means money in any amount from anyone to influence our elections is acceptable. (Citizen's United)

It began with George W. "Acosta served in four presidentially appointed, U.S. Senate-confirmed positions in the George W. Bush Administration." -- Wikipedia

And, George W. is the one who nominated Alito.

Elections matter.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
15. Haul his ass to the House and make him testify
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jul 2019

Calling for resignation over Twitter? Bring him down and make him explain himself.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. Oh, she would never do that
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:12 AM
Jul 2019

That would be something within the actual power of the relevant House committees.

It is much simpler to Tweet a request for him to resign, since there is no responsibility involved.

Gotta keep that powder dry.
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. Armchair quarterbacks always know that they could TOTALLY win the Superbowl
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jul 2019

instead of that damn coach who got hired.



But I'll bite - which relevant committees are you referring to?

Which one applies? In what way could they force DT to fire him? Can you tell me what committee has forced the resignation of any of the previous Trump cabinet members who are now gone? Were any of them forced out due to actions they had taken prior to taking office?

And what do you think the Senate will do when the recommendation for the impeachment of any cabinet member of Trump's goes to them from Congress?

Certainly when you're not down on the actual field, you see how things should be done much more clearly.

Show us.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
31. Can't answer?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jul 2019

Just like the armchair quarterback says, "It's simple!!! Just catch the ball and run down the field until you get to the goal!"

Thought so.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
32. I did answer
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jul 2019

The goal is not to start an impeachment hearing. The goal is to publicly castigate him on video for the news to pick up. If he resigns great! If not you have a cabinet secretary trying to explain why he let a pedophile sex traffic off on camera with Trump standing behind him.

That is your "political" solution.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
33. Nothing like resorting to attacking a strawman when one gets called out...
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jul 2019
That is your "political" solution.


With a bit of a false dillema thrown in for extra crunch - a TWOFER!



Response to Trenzalore (Reply #15)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
27. You mean like they did Hope Hicks?
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jul 2019

What do you think that the Senate will decide if Congress decides to impeach him?

Do you recall testifying before a congressional committee being the reason any Trump cabinet member resigned?

Hint: It was investigations done by journalists, and revelations by aides of shit they had pulled while in office.

Please. If Pelosi hadn't been demanding his resignation, people would be complaining that she needed to be out there DEMANDING his RESIGNATION!!!!

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