Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:44 AM
mobeau69 (9,058 posts)
Pelosi: Acosta must step down.
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40 replies, 3099 views
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mobeau69 | Jul 2019 | OP |
True Blue American | Jul 2019 | #1 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #2 | |
Beringia | Jul 2019 | #3 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #20 | |
Watchfoxheadexplodes | Jul 2019 | #4 | |
shanti | Jul 2019 | #36 | |
watoos | Jul 2019 | #5 | |
Bettie | Jul 2019 | #8 | |
Bettie | Jul 2019 | #11 | |
Alpeduez21 | Jul 2019 | #6 | |
watoos | Jul 2019 | #7 | |
MrsCoffee | Jul 2019 | #9 | |
LanternWaste | Jul 2019 | #18 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #22 | |
George II | Jul 2019 | #29 | |
moreland01 | Jul 2019 | #10 | |
Autumn | Jul 2019 | #12 | |
Celerity | Jul 2019 | #19 | |
Autumn | Jul 2019 | #21 | |
Celerity | Jul 2019 | #28 | |
questionseverything | Jul 2019 | #40 | |
shanti | Jul 2019 | #37 | |
Autumn | Jul 2019 | #38 | |
shanti | Jul 2019 | #39 | |
TryLogic | Jul 2019 | #13 | |
jberryhill | Jul 2019 | #14 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #24 | |
Trenzalore | Jul 2019 | #15 | |
jberryhill | Jul 2019 | #16 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #23 | |
Trenzalore | Jul 2019 | #30 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #31 | |
Trenzalore | Jul 2019 | #32 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #33 | |
Trenzalore | Jul 2019 | #34 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #35 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #25 | |
ehrnst | Jul 2019 | #27 | |
UTUSN | Jul 2019 | #17 | |
spanone | Jul 2019 | #26 |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 05:50 AM
True Blue American (15,549 posts)
1. Those who voted for him knew that, too!
I am beginning to understand why Lindsey Graham did such an about face. Wonder what they have on him?
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 06:23 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
2. Good. We need to keep Epstein's connections with this administration front and center.(nt)
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 06:36 AM
Beringia (4,261 posts)
3. The responses to her are damning of her
Response to Beringia (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:23 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
20. Good thing she has a thick skin, unlike others in Congress, Else she'd be in twitter wars with
of them all day instead of doing her job.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 06:50 AM
Watchfoxheadexplodes (3,496 posts)
4. Her son and Ivanka in a photo together?
I'm at a loss
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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #4)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:05 PM
shanti (21,508 posts)
36. Huh?
What are you referring to?
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:17 AM
watoos (7,142 posts)
5. This is what I am talking about
This is what Democrats should be doing. I will praise them to high heaven when they speak out.
Now, I saw that Ted Lieu tweeted about Acosta resigning, we need every darn Democrat screaming for Acosta to resign. Where is the majority leader Steny Hoyer? Democrats need to push this because it will force Republicans to defend a pedophile protector. C'mon Democrats, follow Pelosi's and Lieu's lead, I can't hear you. |
Response to watoos (Reply #5)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:41 AM
Bettie (13,703 posts)
8. You are right
put the pressure on.
Time to call my two whack-job republican senators and ask their staffers oh-so-innocently why they condone protection of pedophiles and how, exactly that serves our nation.. |
Response to Bettie (Reply #8)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:50 AM
Bettie (13,703 posts)
11. In a shocking turn of events
I actually spoke to a staffer in Grassley's office...first time ever for the DC office. Weird.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:04 AM
Alpeduez21 (1,254 posts)
6. Maybe she can not impeach him, too
Right up her alley to talk big but not be brave enough to act in the interest of America. She puts party before country. Just the other side of the coin to me.
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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:34 AM
watoos (7,142 posts)
7. Now is the time that talk matters,
Democrats need to be talking in a unified voice to keep Acosta on the front page. Force Republicans to defend a pedophile protector.
I would like to see AOC and her 3 amigos get on board with Pelosi on this. Anyone see Steny Hoyer? |
Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:42 AM
MrsCoffee (5,424 posts)
9. What a ludicrous thing to say.
So sick of ignorant comments directed toward strong women.
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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:20 AM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
18. I'd dismiss and trivialize her too.. if I lacked anything of substance to offer.
Chocolate coins with a thin, gilded veneer of tin often look real when viewed from a distance.
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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:24 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
22. Are you sure you're on the right board?
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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:11 AM
George II (67,782 posts)
29. So what are YOU doing about it?
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:43 AM
moreland01 (516 posts)
10. Her very next tweet should have been . .
since "This was known by @POTUS when he appointed him to the cabinet.", then he too should #TrumpResign.
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:50 AM
Autumn (41,716 posts)
12. This was well known before he was appointed and before six Dems voted to confirm him. nt
Response to Autumn (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:20 AM
Celerity (30,870 posts)
19. 9 voted to confirm (counting King)
https://thinkprogress.org/acosta-confirmed-labor-secretary-53694f7ab57/
Catherine Cortez Masto (NV) Heidi Heitkamp (ND) gone Joe Manchin (WV) Claire McCaskill (MO) gone Bob Menendez (NJ) Bill Nelson (FL) gone Jon Tester (MT) Mark Warner (VA) Angus King (ME) Independent Republicans — and some Dems — stand by Acosta amid Jeffrey Epstein charges https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/08/alexander-acosta-jeffrey-epstein-1402230 snip “If he made a mistake or a judgment call or something like that, does that affect the way he’s doing his job now? I’m going to basically judge him on what job he’s doing and how he’s doing it,” said Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), who voted to confirm Acosta. As far as calls to resign, he said: “I’m not getting into that feeding frenzy.” Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.), the chairman of the party’s campaign arm, said she would need to see an internal report from the Justice Department before she could answer whether she regrets supporting him. Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) said he wasn’t aware of Acosta’s involvement with Epstein and doesn’t “have any thoughts about it.” snip But among the six Democratic Caucus members and dozens of Republicans who supported Acosta’s confirmation in 2017 and are still in the Senate, there was no such call. Some said they were concerned about the new charges about Epstein and were following the case closely, but others said Acosta’s handling of the case doesn’t preclude him from doing a good job as Labor secretary. “I’ve got concerns about every nominee that I’ve ever voted for in administration, with a couple of exceptions,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.). “I have to get more information on it.” snip Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), who voted for Acosta, said he was “very concerned” and that the Labor secretary should have been “more forthcoming” during his confirmation hearing in 2017. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) ![]() snip |
Response to Celerity (Reply #19)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:23 AM
Autumn (41,716 posts)
21. I had forgot about Tester and Menendez.
It's disgusting that they still stand with him.
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Response to Autumn (Reply #21)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:54 AM
Celerity (30,870 posts)
28. every Senator, no matter what party, knew he was dirty, the Miami Herald exposed him nationally
before the vote for confirmation.
Trump labor nominee talked tough on sex crimes but gave billionaire a ‘sweetheart’ deal https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article136073328.html By Jay Weaver and Patricia Mazzei jweaver@miamiherald.com MARCH 03, 2017 07:00 AM, UPDATED MARCH 03, 2017 09:31 PM A decade ago, a Miami Beach father who traveled to Cambodia to pay for sex with three underage girls was found guilty in federal court and convicted of sex tourism involving children. Kent Frank, 50, was sentenced to 40 years in prison. Miami’s U.S. attorney at the time, Alex Acosta, declared in a news release that society “cannot permit such individuals to seek sanctuary in our community.” “We will prosecute sexual abuse of children aggressively, both when the targets are children in our community and when the defendants travel to target children abroad,” he vowed. But Acosta, now President Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of labor, made a very different call in another, far more sordid case just months later. The agreement Acosta approved for Palm Beach billionaire Jeffrey Epstein — a “sweetheart plea deal,” according to attorneys for Epstein’s victims — could come back to haunt his Senate confirmation hearing if any senators question Acosta’s judgment in one of the most high-profile cases of his career. Using his private staff to coordinate the illicit sexual activity, Epstein had paid dozens of girls cash to engage in nude massages, masturbation, oral sex and intercourse in his palatial mansions in Palm Beach, New York City and the U.S. Virgin Islands between 1999 and 2005. Epstein, then 55 and defended by an all-star legal team, pleaded guilty to a state charge of soliciting minors for prostitution. He registered as a sex offender in Florida and agreed to pay damages to 40 female victims ranging in age from 13 to 17 years old. As part of the plea agreement negotiated by Acosta’s office, Epstein wouldn’t be charged in federal court — even though the feds had drawn up a proposed 53-page indictment that carried potential punishment ranging from a mandatory 10 years in prison up to a life sentence. Epstein ended up serving just over a year in a Palm Beach County Stockade — while local authorities allowed him during his incarceration to go to work or do whatever he wanted for six days out of every week. Acosta’s “non-prosecution agreement” — initially kept secret from Epstein’s victims — was signed by the billionaire and his lawyers in September 2007 and amended through the end of that year. The deal also immunized several of his co-conspirators from federal prosecution, a rare bonus. “Clearly, Epstein received preferential treatment due to his wealth, race and political connections,” said Miami attorney Joel DeFabio, who — citing the Epstein case — tried unsuccessfully to obtain similar treatment for two clients accused of running prostitution rings involving minor girls. “The charges against Epstein were outrageous, and the evidence was more than enough to obtain a conviction at trial. The fact that Epstein’s wealth enabled him to hire a stellar legal team should not be a valid reason for such a gross disparity in treatment,” DeFabio said. “This matter should be explored by the [Senate] confirmation committee to ensure that Acosta will be committed to equal treatment under the law of all Americans and that he will never give preferential treatment to the wealthy and politically connected.” snip |
Response to Celerity (Reply #28)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:37 PM
questionseverything (8,685 posts)
40. he needs to be prosecuted, resignation isnt enough
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Response to Autumn (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:06 PM
shanti (21,508 posts)
37. Which ones voted for him? n/t
Response to shanti (Reply #37)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:12 PM
Autumn (41,716 posts)
38. There were 9 counting King. I can always count on Celerity to be on top of it.
Response to Autumn (Reply #38)
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:04 AM
TryLogic (1,655 posts)
13. Where Acosta came from...
Wikipedia: "Following law school, Acosta served as a law clerk to Samuel Alito, then a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, from 1994 to 1995."
Alito, the justice who thinks that free speech means money in any amount from anyone to influence our elections is acceptable. (Citizen's United) It began with George W. "Acosta served in four presidentially appointed, U.S. Senate-confirmed positions in the George W. Bush Administration." -- Wikipedia And, George W. is the one who nominated Alito. Elections matter. |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:09 AM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
14. Acosta to Pelosi: "No, thanks"
Next? |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #14)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:28 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
24. You're on a tear this am. Do you need some coffee?
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:03 AM
Trenzalore (1,654 posts)
15. Haul his ass to the House and make him testify
Calling for resignation over Twitter? Bring him down and make him explain himself.
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #15)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:12 AM
jberryhill (62,444 posts)
16. Oh, she would never do that
That would be something within the actual power of the relevant House committees. It is much simpler to Tweet a request for him to resign, since there is no responsibility involved. Gotta keep that powder dry. |
Response to jberryhill (Reply #16)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:27 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
23. Armchair quarterbacks always know that they could TOTALLY win the Superbowl
instead of that damn coach who got hired.
![]() But I'll bite - which relevant committees are you referring to? Which one applies? In what way could they force DT to fire him? Can you tell me what committee has forced the resignation of any of the previous Trump cabinet members who are now gone? Were any of them forced out due to actions they had taken prior to taking office? And what do you think the Senate will do when the recommendation for the impeachment of any cabinet member of Trump's goes to them from Congress? Certainly when you're not down on the actual field, you see how things should be done much more clearly. Show us. ![]() |
Response to ehrnst (Reply #23)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:26 AM
Trenzalore (1,654 posts)
30. You put him in front of cameras and ask questions
Pretty simple.
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #30)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:03 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
31. Can't answer?
Just like the armchair quarterback says, "It's simple!!! Just catch the ball and run down the field until you get to the goal!"
Thought so. ![]() |
Response to ehrnst (Reply #31)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:21 PM
Trenzalore (1,654 posts)
32. I did answer
The goal is not to start an impeachment hearing. The goal is to publicly castigate him on video for the news to pick up. If he resigns great! If not you have a cabinet secretary trying to explain why he let a pedophile sex traffic off on camera with Trump standing behind him.
That is your "political" solution. |
Response to Trenzalore (Reply #32)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:24 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
33. Nothing like resorting to attacking a strawman when one gets called out...
That is your "political" solution.
With a bit of a false dillema thrown in for extra crunch - a TWOFER! ![]() |
Response to ehrnst (Reply #33)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:50 PM
Trenzalore (1,654 posts)
34. Lol
Seriously you are a riot.
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #34)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:03 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
35. Lol
See what I did there?
Called you out again. ![]() |
Response to Trenzalore (Reply #15)
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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #15)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:44 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
27. You mean like they did Hope Hicks?
What do you think that the Senate will decide if Congress decides to impeach him?
Do you recall testifying before a congressional committee being the reason any Trump cabinet member resigned? Hint: It was investigations done by journalists, and revelations by aides of shit they had pulled while in office. Please. If Pelosi hadn't been demanding his resignation, people would be complaining that she needed to be out there DEMANDING his RESIGNATION!!!! |
Response to mobeau69 (Original post)
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 10:39 AM
spanone (131,438 posts)