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hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:41 AM Jul 2019

Metal drinking straw fatally impales woman through her eye after fall

With plastic single-use straws increasingly being replaced by reusables one thing to keep in mind...(might well want to favor reusable flexible plastic over the stiff metal type)... Heavens!

Metal drinking straw fatally impales woman through her eye after fall





https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/07/09/metal-drinking-straw-fatally-impales-woman-england/1684768001/
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Metal drinking straw fatally impales woman through her eye after fall (Original Post) hlthe2b Jul 2019 OP
Sorry for that bit of Darwin rising. alphafemale Jul 2019 #1
Darwin favors those who switch to reusable semi-flexible silicone... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #2
I generally do not use straws at all. alphafemale Jul 2019 #3
Not if you trust their dishwashing. I've seen too many lipstick and "other" smears on glasses hlthe2b Jul 2019 #14
I don't trust how waiters handle glasses, either. mantis49 Jul 2019 #25
But you put their forks in your mouth? alphafemale Jul 2019 #30
Ever work in a restaurant. No, I didn't think so or you'd know what is likely to be contaminated. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #31
I recently got the silicone straws. it's so darn THICK Demovictory9 Jul 2019 #33
Wow, "Darwin rising?" cwydro Jul 2019 #4
And you're blaming a straw? alphafemale Jul 2019 #5
Huh? Where did I blame a straw? cwydro Jul 2019 #6
It was the straw. rainy Jul 2019 #7
Let's ban chopsticks and pencils and pens and crochet needles and crayons alphafemale Jul 2019 #8
All I was saying is that the straw was part of the freak accident rainy Jul 2019 #34
So if this retired jockey with mobility issues had fallen and hit her head on a counter, cwydro Jul 2019 #11
You so miss the point. The main problem with metal straws over reusable silicone, polycarbonate hlthe2b Jul 2019 #18
It wasn't your OP I had any problem with; it was the hateful comments that others made. cwydro Jul 2019 #20
thanks for the clarification... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #22
I found that gratuitous ugly. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #27
The article says that she suffered from mobility issues after a riding fall at age 21. yardwork Jul 2019 #9
Some straws are needed for some people with limited mobility irisblue Jul 2019 #10
I see your point. There are medical reasons for needing straws. yardwork Jul 2019 #12
I have metal straws in my house, in case someone wants a straw. cwydro Jul 2019 #13
Only one person on this thread thinks it funny. The rest of us would LIKE to PREVENT such accidents hlthe2b Jul 2019 #15
i wonder if the straw had a bent at the top or if it was entirely straight JI7 Jul 2019 #16
I think they are designing them this way more often now, but the straight ones still hlthe2b Jul 2019 #19
The ones I have are bent with a soft silicone covering over the sipping end. cwydro Jul 2019 #21
Individuals with disabilities need straws and have been raising this precise concern Ms. Toad Jul 2019 #23
Thank you. cwydro Jul 2019 #36
kind of like running with a pen or scissors Sunlei Jul 2019 #17
There's a difference manicdem Jul 2019 #37
The coroner said that the problem was that the straw was fixed in place. Kaleva Jul 2019 #24
Paper straws are the way to go Clash City Rocker Jul 2019 #26
Many of the stainless stell straws sold on Amazon come with a cleaner brush csziggy Jul 2019 #32
Damn, what an awful way to go. Tipperary Jul 2019 #28
How about reusable accordion straws? Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #29
Some of the comments in response are absolutely disgusting! tenderfoot Jul 2019 #35

hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
2. Darwin favors those who switch to reusable semi-flexible silicone...
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:54 AM
Jul 2019

polycarbonate or flexible plastic...

The more likely risk from stainless is a broken tooth...

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
3. I generally do not use straws at all.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:04 AM
Jul 2019

Certainly not at a regular sit down restaurant.

I don't use straws at home. Why would I use one there.?



hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
14. Not if you trust their dishwashing. I've seen too many lipstick and "other" smears on glasses
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jul 2019

and unwashed hands inexplicably handling the rims of glasses ( a good way to spread hepatitis A) so....

Darwin works both ways...

mantis49

(889 posts)
25. I don't trust how waiters handle glasses, either.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jul 2019

I will use a straw in a restaurant for this reason. My sisters tease me about it. Maybe I should put one of the silicone ones I have in my purse to avoid disposable straws.

hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
31. Ever work in a restaurant. No, I didn't think so or you'd know what is likely to be contaminated.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:41 PM
Jul 2019
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
4. Wow, "Darwin rising?"
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:04 AM
Jul 2019

A 60 year old woman falls, her wife finds her dying...and you make a Darwin joke?

You seem nice.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Huh? Where did I blame a straw?
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:19 AM
Jul 2019

It’s a tragic accident. Nice try.

Your comment was insensitive at best, hateful at worst. Ugh.

Did you think you were being funny?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. Let's ban chopsticks and pencils and pens and crochet needles and crayons
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:28 AM
Jul 2019

And any thing else she may have been holding.

It wasn't because it was a metal straw.

Freak accidents happen.

rainy

(6,321 posts)
34. All I was saying is that the straw was part of the freak accident
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:54 PM
Jul 2019

not the woman’s fault. My statement had nothing to do with banning anything

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. So if this retired jockey with mobility issues had fallen and hit her head on a counter,
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:46 AM
Jul 2019

I guess you’d blame it on the counter?

Wtf is wrong with people here?

Everyone thinks this woman’s awful death is funny?

hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
18. You so miss the point. The main problem with metal straws over reusable silicone, polycarbonate
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:50 AM
Jul 2019

or others is fractured teeth--not unlike with the ubiquitous aluminum tumblers from the 60's---ask any dentist.

Her accident was freak and as you say, could have occurred as a result of any other sharp/hard object she fell against, but it was a metal straw, which is avoidable. Many people do use straws for any number of reasons including disabilities. Informing of a potential benefit of some reusable materials over stainless steel may annoy you, but there are those who might well benefit. You may not be making fun of the woman's sad plight but you are dismissive nonetheless. Her story wasn't posted to be a source of mockery, but rather a chance for consideration of the implications.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. It wasn't your OP I had any problem with; it was the hateful comments that others made.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:10 AM
Jul 2019

So I didn’t miss any point.

I don’t give a flying fig what kind of straws anyone uses, but making fun of a woman’s death is horrid.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
9. The article says that she suffered from mobility issues after a riding fall at age 21.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:37 AM
Jul 2019

A person with her risk factors should not have been walking with a metal straw fixed in a jar.

Metal straws are a bad idea. Straws aren't needed at all.

irisblue

(37,509 posts)
10. Some straws are needed for some people with limited mobility
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:45 AM
Jul 2019

I'm politely disagreeing with you. You don't want a straw, fine. My brother who has lost left sided arm mobility, he needs one.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
12. I see your point. There are medical reasons for needing straws.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:48 AM
Jul 2019

I was mostly responding to the Darwin Award post in this thread, and disagreeing with that poster. In this case, the metal straw caused a death.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. I have metal straws in my house, in case someone wants a straw.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:49 AM
Jul 2019

It was a freak accident, just like any number of things that can happen at home. I agree with you; nothing wrong with using straws.

Some of the comments on this thread are baffling. And sad.

hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
15. Only one person on this thread thinks it funny. The rest of us would LIKE to PREVENT such accidents
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:43 AM
Jul 2019

however unusual.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
16. i wonder if the straw had a bent at the top or if it was entirely straight
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:46 AM
Jul 2019

i was thinking if it had a bent and was not fixed in place with the lid then it would have helped avoid what happened.





hlthe2b

(113,958 posts)
19. I think they are designing them this way more often now, but the straight ones still
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:54 AM
Jul 2019

are widely sold on Amazon, for example.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. The ones I have are bent with a soft silicone covering over the sipping end.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:12 AM
Jul 2019

I generally don’t walk and drink anything anyway, so I’ll take my chances.

Ms. Toad

(38,637 posts)
23. Individuals with disabilities need straws and have been raising this precise concern
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jul 2019

Not necessarily as to fatalities, but people with CP need (1) straws and (2) flexibility in those straws in order to (1) be able to drink and (2) avoid injury from most permanent straws.

Those same individuals may also have more need for single use straws because of diminished ability to keep straws sanitary (think trying to insert a straw brush when you have difficulty controlling your movements)- and may less likely to be able to fight off infections if the straw contains spoiled remnants of prior drinks.

As someone with more than one friend with CP, your post is insensitive, at best.

manicdem

(536 posts)
37. There's a difference
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jul 2019

You can hold scissors facing down or put them in a pocket or cover the blade portion with your hand. Cups with straws have to be faced up.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
24. The coroner said that the problem was that the straw was fixed in place.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jul 2019

"Her death has led to a coroner warning that metal drinking straws should never be used with a lid that fixes them in place, and “great care should be taken” while using them. "

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17756360.retired-jockey-died-fell-metal-drinking-straw/

Clash City Rocker

(3,546 posts)
26. Paper straws are the way to go
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 01:19 PM
Jul 2019

I have wondered how much one can clean the inside of a metal drinking straw anyhow. I know people use these things that resemble pipe cleaners, but I wonder how well that really works.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
32. Many of the stainless stell straws sold on Amazon come with a cleaner brush
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:35 PM
Jul 2019

So do many of the silicone straws. As you say, it's sort of like a pipe cleaner.

I got some heavy duty plastic ones when I bought my insulated cup - but they didn't come with a way to clean the inside. I'm thinking of getting some silicon straws to replace those - and will get a set with a brush to clean all of them.

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