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BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:32 PM Jul 2019

'Regrets is not what I do': Pelosi defends her comment about four House women



House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday she has “no regrets about anything” after a swipe at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other freshman congresswomen’s following in a New York Times article.

Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, or “The Squad,” voted against a bill that aimed to provide emergency funding at the border. Pelosi told the NYT Saturday the four newer members “have their public whatever and their Twitter world,” but “they’re four people and that’s how many votes they got.”

Pelosi stood by her comments Wednesday, saying she doesn’t “do” regrets.

“I have no regrets about anything,” Pelosi told reporters after being asked if she was worried about her remarks dividing Democrats, The Washington Post reported. “Regrets is not what I do.”

More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/regrets-is-not-what-i-do-pelosi-defends-her-comments-about-four-house-women/2019/07/10/df49af82-a320-11e9-a767-d7ab84aef3e9_story.html?utm_term=.cec73a6c7e47
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'Regrets is not what I do': Pelosi defends her comment about four House women (Original Post) BeyondGeography Jul 2019 OP
ugh. tone deaf leftstreet Jul 2019 #1
Nope. Music to my ears RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #4
Maybe not to that annoying 'public whatever' n/t leftstreet Jul 2019 #12
+1 BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #9
Not what I do zipplewrath Jul 2019 #13
Much as the anti-solidarity statements which started this whole thing. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #14
Wow, that's a lot of prepositions in that second "sentence." cwydro Jul 2019 #33
Good for Pelosi. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #2
Yes, Good for Pelosi Horizens Jul 2019 #3
Lest We Forget II Horizens Jul 2019 #6
So in 2010? zipplewrath Jul 2019 #11
Whaboutism exemplified. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #15
Just looking for consistency zipplewrath Jul 2019 #17
Rubbish Horizens Jul 2019 #24
Good. She does not want to further the back and forth, but stands by her remarks. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #5
Good for Pelosi... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #7
Not only wouldn't they have got a better deal ripcord Jul 2019 #23
Precisely Me. Jul 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author leftstreet Jul 2019 #8
Good Me. Jul 2019 #10
Why on earth did Pelosi pick this public fight shanny Jul 2019 #16
She wants to win the Trump-wing ... GeorgeGist Jul 2019 #18
Is that a thing? LakeArenal Jul 2019 #51
She never makes a mistake? Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #19
agree 100% shanny Jul 2019 #61
Unforced errors BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #20
I know. I read the Dowd piece, and I thought Pelosi came off a little flippant. cwydro Jul 2019 #34
She didn't. "The Squad" just doesn't realize clapback goes both ways. RelativelyJones Jul 2019 #22
She Didn't Me. Jul 2019 #29
In public was not smart or "politic" shanny Jul 2019 #39
That Was Exactly THe Place This Time Me. Jul 2019 #41
here's a question I have: is Maureen Dowd the appropriate venue shanny Jul 2019 #43
Dowd makes her living by sticking it to the Dems BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #49
yep.. my point exactly shanny Jul 2019 #50
it is indeed very stupid Skittles Jul 2019 #35
I wish she had been a candidate for president TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #21
Pelosi will be remembered as a great leader and a strategist question everything Jul 2019 #25
Accomplished Leader vs Do Nothings Horizens Jul 2019 #26
This session will be remembered for something and it ain't those bills BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #30
HA! Horizens Jul 2019 #32
right. because we are so good at messaging ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #36
Messaging Horizens Jul 2019 #37
I think it's great...those 4 members.. stillcool Jul 2019 #28
I stand with Speaker Pelosi mcar Jul 2019 #31
Right Me. Jul 2019 #38
Pfft shanny Jul 2019 #40
In Fact They Were, The Moment They Didn't Get THeir Way With The Vote Me. Jul 2019 #42
in fact they weren't. Maureen Dowd? Really? shanny Jul 2019 #44
Yes, Yes, Maureen Dowd, Maureen Dowd Me. Jul 2019 #45
your slip is showing shanny Jul 2019 #46
You Wish Me. Jul 2019 #53
I don't think you know them any better than you know me shanny Jul 2019 #58
How Would You Know That? Me. Jul 2019 #59
that must have been why I said "i don't think" instead of "I know" shanny Jul 2019 #60
Says You Me. Jul 2019 #62
Cute mcar Jul 2019 #56
thank you shanny Jul 2019 #57
I have to share this one with you BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #63
+1 Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #64
luv me that Charles Pierce shanny Jul 2019 #66
Sounds like she has a litter of new pups about to be neutered n/t Baclava Jul 2019 #67
Your Sig Would Be Good For Nancy Me. Jul 2019 #68
My 79 year old mother just told me she was furious at Pelosi over this. Crunchy Frog Jul 2019 #47
Hooray for Mom BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #48
I regret that the Orange Anus appears to stand a chance of winning re-election. CentralMass Jul 2019 #52
Yes, and after Trump steals another election Stargleamer Jul 2019 #54
Agreed budkin Jul 2019 #71
Lol awesome Loki Liesmith Jul 2019 #55
My one real point of confidence. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #65
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #69
What is her damage? budkin Jul 2019 #70

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
13. Not what I do
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jul 2019

May not be, but the people affected by your mistakes probably do. No one is perfect. We all make mistakes. The more powerful you are, the more people affected by your mistakes.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. Much as the anti-solidarity statements which started this whole thing.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jul 2019

Of which, Pelosi merely responded to.

Ugh, indeed.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
33. Wow, that's a lot of prepositions in that second "sentence."
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:31 PM
Jul 2019

Turned around: “Pelosi merely responded to of which.”

Oh lordie me!

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
3. Yes, Good for Pelosi
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:41 PM
Jul 2019

Lest everyone forgets.

During Pelosi’s two years as Speaker (2009 – 2010), the House passed the following legislation.

Obamacare w/ public option
Dodd-Frank
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay
Econ stimulus
Don't ask, don't tell repeal
Dream act
Cap-and-trade
CHIP reauthorization
Employee Free Choice Act
Fair sentencing act
Disclose act
Food Safety Modernization Act
Hate Crimes Prevention Act
Student Aid Act
Credit Card Holders Bill of Rights

In 2010, both AFSCME President, Gerald W. McEntee and Norman Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute ranked her as one of the most successful, consequential Speakers in U.S history. More recently, President Obama, Barney Frank and historian Michael Beschloss have expressed the same point.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
6. Lest We Forget II
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:42 PM
Jul 2019

The “Blue Wave” was no accident. As titular head of the Democratic Party, Pelosi planned and implemented the strategy that turned 41 seats from red to blue in the 2018 mid-terms. She also raised over 125 million for congressional candidates – a staggering sum by any measure.

More votes (roughly 60 million) were cast for Democratic candidates than were EVER cast for ANY political party in a mid term election. That’s 15 million more votes than the roughly 45 million cast for Republican candidates in 2018 – the second most votes cast for a political party in a mid term election.

"There's not any precedent for an opposition party coming this close to matching the president's vote total from 2 years earlier." (Nate Silver)

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
11. So in 2010?
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jul 2019

If you credit her for the blue wave, what responsibility does she have for 2010? How about the dismal condition of the DNC when Hillary had to come in and fiscally restore it before the 2016 race?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Whaboutism exemplified.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jul 2019

Very accurately exemplified. Yet soon I predict, to be justified as something other than what it is.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
17. Just looking for consistency
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jul 2019

I didn't really blame her much for 2010, it was really more Obama and his administrations handling of the ACA, combined with alot of racism. But I also only give her limited credit for the blue wave. She did her part and raised alot of money. But it was as much a reaction to how HRC was treated, the Russian mess, and Trump himself that brought us the blue wave.

ripcord

(5,492 posts)
23. Not only wouldn't they have got a better deal
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:37 PM
Jul 2019

But likely there would have been no relief and that would have been unconscionable. If people need to blame someone blame the Senate Democrats who handed the Republicans a bipartisan bill to tout.

Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
16. Why on earth did Pelosi pick this public fight
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jul 2019

and why is she doubling down? Seems stupid to me and we know she is smart and savvy. I don't get it.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
19. She never makes a mistake?
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jul 2019


Did she talk one on one with the "offenders" in her caucus 1st before going public with Dowd?

If she really wanted to shut down the "back and forth", she could have responded "no comment".

In my book, that's not an exemplary example of leadership.

Like it or not, this young generation is here to stay, IMO, and the old guard needs to understand that and find a way to work with them. (I am old BTW.) I don't agree with all their POV's but I sure as hell like their passion.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
20. Unforced errors
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jul 2019

The Dowd interview...I'm still trying to figure out what her goal was there. She could have sent a message without mocking some of the brightest young stars of the party. Not only did she not do that, she's continuing to stick it to them. They might behave in the short-term but so what. None of this was necessary in the first place.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
34. I know. I read the Dowd piece, and I thought Pelosi came off a little flippant.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jul 2019

Dismissive, actually. I didn’t see the need for that.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
29. She Didn't
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:18 PM
Jul 2019

It began with the squad's discontent with the way the vote went and she was responding to their criticism in a way that was not only mild but factual. A reminder that they aren't the powerhouse they suppose they are. Maybe someday but not now and Rep. Pocan calling the moderates Child Abusers is unnecessary and unhelpful.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
41. That Was Exactly THe Place This Time
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:20 PM
Jul 2019

to let the 'Squad know how serious she was. She knows what she is doing and when, where to do it. And she didn't it while being factual and without calling them names or using nasty appellations.

And here's a question I have for them...the horror has been going on at the border for quite a while now and they are so concerned last week was their first trip there?

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
43. here's a question I have: is Maureen Dowd the appropriate venue
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:34 PM
Jul 2019

for ANY communication with colleagues?

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
49. Dowd makes her living by sticking it to the Dems
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:10 PM
Jul 2019

Usually she has to use third parties or anonymous sources. This time she got it straight from the top.

question everything

(47,518 posts)
25. Pelosi will be remembered as a great leader and a strategist
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jul 2019

while AOC et al...

The reason while AOC et al can get headlines is because they are not part of the majority that.... Pelosi brought about.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
26. Accomplished Leader vs Do Nothings
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:08 PM
Jul 2019

The US House passed hundreds of pieces of legislation since January. 48 of them major bills (listed below).

Pelosi has accomplished this despite having to deal with a small minority of members who have accomplished nothing.

Health care
1. HR 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
2. House Resolution 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
3. HR 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
4. HR 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
5. HR 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
6. HR 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
Civil rights
1. HR 1 — For the People Act of 2019
2. HR 5 — Equality Act
3. HR 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
4. HR 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
Gun control
1. HR 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
2. HR 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
Environment
1. HR 9 — Climate Action Now Act
2. HR 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
3. S 47 — National Resources Management Act
4. HR 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
Military/foreign affairs
1. HR 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
2. HJ Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
3. SJ Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
4. HR 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
5. HJ Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
Mueller report
1. H.Con.Res. 24 — Expressing the sense of Congress that the report of Special Counsel Mueller should be made available to the public and to Congress.
Other legislation
1. HR 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
2. HR 1500 — Consumers First Act
3. HR 1994 — SECURE Act
4. HR 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
5. HR 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
6. HR 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
7. HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
8. S 24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
9. HR 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
10. Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
11. HR 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
12. HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
13. H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
14. H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
15. HR 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
16. HR 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)
Votes to end the government shutdown
1. HR 21 — Making appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes
2. HJ Res. 1 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019, and for other purposes
3. HR 265 — Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
4. HR 267 — Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
5. HR 266 — Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
6. HR 268 — Disaster Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019 (Disaster Supplemental and short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 8)
7. HR 264 — Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act
8. HJ Res. 28 — Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act, 2019 (Short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
9. HR 648 — Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019 (Six conferenced bills minibus)
10. HJ Res. 31 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019 (Short-term homeland continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
11. Conference Report to Accompany HJ Res 31 – Making consolidated appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes

• HR1 - For the People Act
• HR5 - The Equality Act
• HR6 - Dreamers & TPS
• HR7 - Paycheck Fairness Act
• HR8 - Gun Violence Prevention
• HR9 - Climate Action
• HR1644 - Save the Internet Act
• HR1585 - Violence Against Women Act
• 10 unnamed bills lowering healthcare / Rx drug costs.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
32. HA!
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jul 2019

Those bills will be the driving force come the 2020 House election. The Dems will let the electorate know what they've done and what the republican (senate in particular) opposed.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
37. Messaging
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:41 PM
Jul 2019

Overall, the Dems do a poor job messaging. But their health care message was major factor in the 2018 Blue Wave.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
28. I think it's great...those 4 members..
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jul 2019

have wonderful strong, young voices. They have the passion, the brains, the personalities...they only need the know-how. Speak, but listen. Class has begun.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
38. Right
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:15 PM
Jul 2019

and if the so-called Squad wants to dish it out they better be prepared for the consequences. As Nancy said, we won't be Okay with that.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
45. Yes, Yes, Maureen Dowd, Maureen Dowd
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jul 2019

and not a peep from the young innocents before that...

Maureen Dowd was her response to them.

And yes really.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
53. You Wish
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jul 2019

a response means you answer back to what is being said. They got the point and I doubt they will be so injudicious in the future.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
60. that must have been why I said "i don't think" instead of "I know"
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:07 PM
Jul 2019

nice try on the straw man

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
63. I have to share this one with you
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jul 2019

from Charles Pierce:

It takes a rare kind of something to excoriate the media about pushing the Dems In Disarray narrative in the same story in which you rip the four most visible young members of your own caucus. This piece is a violation of two major rules governing modern American politics.

1) Don't pick unnecessary fights with your own people, especially in the public prints. The press is not your friend, nor is it supposed to be.

2) At a time of national political crisis, under no circumstances give an interview to Maureen Dowd.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28322801/nancy-pelosi-mitch-mcconnell-democrats-border-bill/

Crunchy Frog

(26,610 posts)
47. My 79 year old mother just told me she was furious at Pelosi over this.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jul 2019

I think she's behaving pretty much as I would expect, and she hasn't lost any points with me because she didn't have any to lose.

Stargleamer

(1,990 posts)
54. Yes, and after Trump steals another election
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:11 PM
Jul 2019

she'll have no regrets about not having ever instigated impeachment hearings when she could have. Regrets is not what she does.

I think her SF constituents deserved better. Not instigating impeachment hearings now represents a colossal failure of nerve.

Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)

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