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Trump Is Completely Disavowing Epstein And Throwing Him Under The Bus..... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2019 OP
of course gopiscrap Jul 2019 #1
So, whatever Trump says and does, we know the opposite is always true womanofthehills Jul 2019 #14
exactly gopiscrap Jul 2019 #18
The Orange Pile of puss keeps on shouting. .... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #2
What's new? He's done this with all of them. cwydro Jul 2019 #3
Most of those people weren't billionaires. tinrobot Jul 2019 #7
I hope you're right. cwydro Jul 2019 #9
Lots of reports now saying Epstein was not a billionaire womanofthehills Jul 2019 #15
Epstein seems to have a complete aversion to going down. Pulling Trump ... marble falls Jul 2019 #4
"In those days, if you didn't know Trump and you didn't know Epstein, you were a nobody." dalton99a Jul 2019 #5
Does it matter? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2019 #6
The fattish but active blob of filth Blue Owl Jul 2019 #8
"Will that cause Epstein to turn on Trump?" mitch96 Jul 2019 #10
Simple question: Did Trump attend a 1992 party* w/only Epstein and 28 underage girls @ Mar a Lag? Botany Jul 2019 #11
I wonder what Mother and Mike Pence think about this? nt redwitch Jul 2019 #13
Pence knew all about Trump, Russia, and the Elections. Botany Jul 2019 #17
I know. redwitch Jul 2019 #20
But........ according to one of Jeffrey's girls, Jeffrey had cameras womanofthehills Jul 2019 #12
Not necessarily DFW Jul 2019 #16
Of course! kentuck Jul 2019 #19
One thing about paedophile runners is they keep evidence on their johns so no one squeals. sunonmars Jul 2019 #21
Is it a school bus? lame54 Jul 2019 #22
Barr didn't do a 180 on the case for any old reason Johonny Jul 2019 #23
I still think this Epstein investigation is going to be one of the biggest political scandals of all sunonmars Jul 2019 #24
Keep this in mind..We are only in Act 1 of at least a 4 Act Play. Also.... Stuart G Jul 2019 #25
Won't matter to Epstein TheRealNorth Jul 2019 #26
I think this is one pardon that even Trump won't touch. Political kryptonite. sunonmars Jul 2019 #27
I think so - except if his money is involved tulipsandroses Jul 2019 #28
All Epstein has to do is make it past Election Day 2020. TheRealNorth Jul 2019 #29
well the argument could be made that Trump is complete amoral pig.... Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #30
Pretty sure everyone on both sides already knows that jcgoldie Jul 2019 #31

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,321 posts)
2. The Orange Pile of puss keeps on shouting. ....
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:37 AM
Jul 2019

No one can beat him.Not "Sleepy Joe" or anyone else.

Shut the fuck up aldeady. Trump keeps giving Democrats sound bites in which to run on.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. What's new? He's done this with all of them.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jul 2019

But no one turns on him with any real result, except for Cohen perhaps.

tinrobot

(10,830 posts)
7. Most of those people weren't billionaires.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:59 AM
Jul 2019

Epstein is a well-connected billionaire who has a lot of dirt on a lot of people.

He's not going to lay down voluntarily for this bus.


womanofthehills

(8,547 posts)
15. Lots of reports now saying Epstein was not a billionaire
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jul 2019

Not as rich as he made out to be.

Might have gotten investors to invest with him because he had something on them - ya think??

marble falls

(56,029 posts)
4. Epstein seems to have a complete aversion to going down. Pulling Trump ...
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jul 2019

in with him will be totally unavoidable for him whether it benefits his inevitable future or not.

dalton99a

(80,907 posts)
5. "In those days, if you didn't know Trump and you didn't know Epstein, you were a nobody."
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:43 AM
Jul 2019

- Alan Dershowitz




Donald J. Trump with Jeffrey Epstein in 1997 in Palm Beach, Fla.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. Does it matter?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jul 2019

Epstein is so filthy and gross, everyone in Manhattan could be at risk of some kind of infection. Egads, he is a nasty, nasty thing! He’s like pedophile “Pigpen” walking around in a feculent cloud.

I doubt trump can get far enough away from him.

mitch96

(13,766 posts)
10. "Will that cause Epstein to turn on Trump?"
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jul 2019

I hope there are tapes... OH I hope there are tapes....
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Botany

(70,219 posts)
11. Simple question: Did Trump attend a 1992 party* w/only Epstein and 28 underage girls @ Mar a Lag?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jul 2019

And if so how can any republican and or Fox News person still defend him?

* an alleged cocaine and sex party

NY Times:

The year was 1992 and the event was a “calendar girl” competition, something that George Houraney, a Florida-based businessman who ran American Dream Enterprise, had organized at Mr. Trump’s request.

“I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Mr. Houraney recalled in an interview on Monday. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.”

Mr. Houraney, who had just partnered with Mr. Trump to host events at his casinos, said he was surprised. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’”

skip

(and after that party did Trump go on record and say that Jeff liked young women)

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html

Botany

(70,219 posts)
17. Pence knew all about Trump, Russia, and the Elections.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jul 2019

And right after the 2016 Election Pence went on record about "the other side" using
Russia to delegitimize the outcome. Besides he was picked by Paul Manafort to be veep.

womanofthehills

(8,547 posts)
12. But........ according to one of Jeffrey's girls, Jeffrey had cameras
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jul 2019

and questioned the girls extensively about their encounters after they were with various men. Blackmail to invest with him - some think. Trump could be on one of those (insurance) CD's - we can only hope.

DFW

(53,932 posts)
16. Not necessarily
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jul 2019

If Trump has gotten a message to Epstein saying, "Shut up, and I'll help. Rat on me, and you go away for life," I think Epstein will just clam up. Later, when he finds out Trump plans to abandon him anyway, THEN he'll open up.

But by THAT time, who will be interested in listening?

kentuck

(110,916 posts)
19. Of course!
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jul 2019

That is also why he was so quick to get rid of Acosta. He wants to put this Epstein matter behind him as soon as possible. For whatever reason....

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
21. One thing about paedophile runners is they keep evidence on their johns so no one squeals.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jul 2019

I would be very surprised if there is not a horde of evidence somewhere that Epstein has.

You do not run that sort of operation and that sort of thing without blackmail material.

Johonny

(20,612 posts)
23. Barr didn't do a 180 on the case for any old reason
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jul 2019

I think we can assume the AG will be ahead of any Trump negative news long before it touches Trump legally. It still might cause bad press, but Trump voters are unable to process news so no big deal there.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
24. I still think this Epstein investigation is going to be one of the biggest political scandals of all
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jul 2019

time..................

There are so many directions and people this can go off into and it will.

Stuart G

(38,328 posts)
25. Keep this in mind..We are only in Act 1 of at least a 4 Act Play. Also....
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jul 2019

Since I really don't know how many acts this show is, it could be 3, or it could be 5. No one knows. But it live, and going on at your nearest newspaper, computer, magazine, TV or radio. Which ever you like, it will have news on this one. Strange show. I thought there could be only one show like this, and it was called, "Watergate" but I was wrong. I wouldn't say this is Watergate 2, because it is different and the cast members are different, and this one involves another country and the other Watergate only involved this country. But the theme is the same: greed and power. ...Oh..this show has lots of ...SEX... Epstein as a director must like sex. And...what direction will this go? Is the Epstein thing part of another play or show?
Or.....is it all part of the same show?...Don't ask me, As Sgt Schultz used to say,..............
... " I know nothing."

tulipsandroses

(5,071 posts)
28. I think so - except if his money is involved
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 02:14 PM
Jul 2019

I think the other shoe to drop with Epstein is the financial aspect.

It seems that Epstein may be a corrupt businessman? Does he have dirt on other corrupt business people? Money laundering? Russian money?

I'm thinking that's why Barr has not recused from future prosecutions - where this may lead. If Epstein wants to offer up dirt to try to save his skin. He wants to know to bury it.

I do think it would be political kryptonite to try to pardon Epstein but we all know how Trump feels about trying to dig into his finances. If Epstein has anything on his finances then this will get really dicey.

TheRealNorth

(9,425 posts)
29. All Epstein has to do is make it past Election Day 2020.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jul 2019

Who knows how long the trial will be or take- Epstein may escape conviction or may not be convicted before Election Day 2020. After that, what does Trump care?

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
30. well the argument could be made that Trump is complete amoral pig....
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jul 2019

who has no friends and only uses people.

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