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[qazplm135]

1. oh good grief

Poor, poor AOC.

[aidbo]

2. Agreed

[Trumpocalypse]

3. I didn't realize that

multiple House committees were investigating AOC.

[AncientGeezer]

4. Do the House Comittee Chiars have investigations against AOC? No.

Nadler, Schiff, Cummings, Neal, Waters, Engle, Pallone..all investigating the Orange freak show...not AOC
In-party victim card.....not needed this election cycle. The Trumpanzees will exploit it well

[wryter2000]

20. +1000

[Kid Berwyn]

5. Funny, that.

AOC must be punished for she upended the go along to get along apple cart when she primaried Crowley of the Status Quo.

[True Blue American]

6. No!

There are no investigations of AOC. She is really good in hearings but she needs to get off Social Media, quit playing victim to the Press who are eating it up.

I admire her in the hearings, I do not admire her attacking other Democrats and using race.

[Thekaspervote]

8. Agree!

[Kid Berwyn]

9. She beat the guy some thought would succeed Ms. Pelosi as Speaker.

Now Ms. Pelosi is warning that the DCCC won’t support candidates who primary sitting representatives.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/436592-progressives-hammer-dccc-over-blacklist-targeting-primary-challenges

[Yavin4]

11. All I want is for that same toughness to be applied to Trump

Is that too much to ask?

[Kid Berwyn]

16. Agree completely.

Trump ignores the Constitution, breaks the law, and violates his oath of office so frequently, effortlessly, and effectively that the absence of opposition— RESISTANCE — only serves to hasten the day when it’s too late for democracy.

[Trumpocalypse]

21. Is AOC

being investigated by House committees?

[PatrickforO]

26. Not a fair question. Oh, I suppose you might think it is, but it is not.

Our party is turning on four of its newest, most dynamic members. And this thing with the DCCC freezing out Democrats who are running against Blue Dogs?

No. That will not stand.

[Trumpocalypse]

30. Yes it is a fair question

And no one is turning on them. It is just a disagreement over some policies.

[PatrickforO]

36. Not when the DCCC acts to shut down progressives primarying

Democrats from the left. Oh, I guess it is a natural defense of the organization by those who are currently in power - the 'establishment' I suppose you could call them, but it is quite short-sighted.

I genuinely believe Pelosi's public put-down, coupled with this DCCC thing, will backfire badly. We need the millennials to come to the polls in droves, and if we turn them off by shutting down dynamic members of their generation, then we will pay at the polls.

And we cannot afford that. It is only my own opinion and I do not ask you to share it, but I am dead tired of do-nothing politicians that I vote for because they talk a good battle, but then go to DC and get nothing done. I'm tired of things progressively getting worse and not better. Every single poll I've ever seen that has been well-done, well-worded, statistically valid, shows majorities of Americans are for progressive issues.

No, we need some aggressive action here. We need to get things done, and I'm not comfortable with the tack Pelosi and the leaders are taking because they risk appearing cowardly. To my mind we should be fighting tooth and nail, having constant press conferences, putting our talking points out on social media, running ads - against Republicans.

We should NOT be shutting down new representatives, nor should we be shutting down progressive candidates.

It is already beginning to happen, just like in '16. A rift, and the establishment is beginning to circle the wagons. Again my opinion - if we run a candidate that doesn't motivate the younger voters, we risk not only losing the election, but losing our republic. Because we are teetering on the brink of the abyss, and kids like AOC are pointing that out. Forcefully. They will get ugly because they have much more at stake than an old guy like me. They will have to live global warming. They will have to live the next great recession, which will become a depression and will cause suffering like we haven't seen since the '30s.

Mark my words, this internecine battle is a really, really bad move, because the establishment wing of the party will win - it has all the money and all the power and all the position. But it will by a Pyrrhic victory at best. Sadly, you and I and everyone on here, as well as our kids and grandkids, will be the losers. We will all suffer because we don't seem capable of working together.

Have you seen the news on the 'debt crisis?' We are being positioned for massive, massive suffering. The billionaire parasites want to gut all social programs and continue taking money from our treasury to line their own pockets. They are the enemy, not a 29-year-old kid who has the temerity to speak truth to power.

I guess time will tell, but I'm thinking it will be a tragic story indeed.

[KPN]

41. Thank you! nt

[PatSeg]

23. Spot on

There are times when I applaud her, but others where her energy is being misused. As Democrats, we don't have to agree with one another on everything, but this is no time to be attacking members of our own party, especially when the biggest threat of my lifetime is in the White House right now.

Yeah, maybe a little less attention grabbing and more focus on who are adversaries really are. There is plenty of work to be done, I'm tired of the grandstanding.

[pazzyanne]

34. Amen!

[AncientGeezer]

10. Crowley took for granted he had it in the bag...(where did I see that before)

Failed to do any campaign work in the district...and lost
You over estimate AOC's win....she didn't didn't scale Mt.Olympus. She won in a district that would vote for a stick with a D registration over any Repuke. I live in N.Y....I know the politics
SoS Clinton did the same thing in '16...Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Minnesota...and the election was decided by about 70-80K votes...how's that working out?

[Kid Berwyn]

18. She beat the Number 3 Democrat in the House.

Lots of fodder from Rupert Murdoch that says Crowley had the goods on AOC but held back so he wouldn’t look “weak” in DC.

So, where are the receipts?

[watoos]

31. I don't know how to say this politely but,

one way that incumbents like Crowley stay in power is to stifle voter turnout for the election. Voter turnout was low, ahem, but Crowley still lost. It also didn't help that Crowley didn't show up for one of the debates with AOC, he just sent an aide instead.

I don't think I'm jumping to conclusions by saying that Speaker Pelosi was unhappy when Crowley lost.

I watched Pelosi recently hold up a glass of water and state that AOC's district is so blue that a glass of water could have won. Pelosi then stated that the "squad" only has 4 votes, which IMO was not a smart thing to say. When our candidates get whittled down we shall see if the "squads" endorsements are only 4 votes.

AOC was spot on about the border wall budget bill, some of that money is being used for the ICE raids on Sunday.

[LiberalLovinLug]

33. +1000

[AncientGeezer]

38. You keep saying that an Impeachment inquary gives us access to GJ material

...like it's a magical power...though many lawyers have told you are wrong..How do you reconcile that?

AOC voted against the HOUSE Bill....then bitched about the Senate bill....she's NOT in charge...she's getting her ass handed to her regularly...I suspect it will get worse.

[Ponietz]

7. Unhelpful hyperbole

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[RelativelyJones]

12. +1000

[sheshe2]

13. That could be turned around.

Yavin4

0. Imagine if the House leadership were as tough on Trump as they are on AOC
Just imagine.

Oh well, maybe in another multiverse.

..............

Imagine if AOC was as tough on Trump and the GOP as she is the House leadership and her fellow members that she plans to primary because she deems them not progressive enough.

Just imagine.

Oh well, maybe in another multiverse.

[Andy823]

32. Excellent point she

Pelosi knows what she is doing because she has been doing it for a long time, AOC on the other hand has not even made it on year yet.

I also agree that if AOC would direct her time at taking on republicans, try to get republicans out of office and replaced instead of replacing sitting Democrats, it would help us control the House, and possibly take back the Senate.

[sheshe2]

39. Thanks, Andy.

Her direction is skewed IMHO. Though it seems the direction she wants to take. Tear it down. Purity.

[LiberalLovinLug]

37. AOC didn't start the fire

She was gracious and deferential to the House speaker when she arrived. Even defended her.
It was Nancy and the old leadership that began to disparage her tweets, you know, the ones from a Democrat that was actually making a progressive stand on the issues.

[tazkcmo]

14. Tough?

I guess your idea of tough is different than mine. AOC might have received a talking to but that's hardly tough. Getting fired is tough. Being suspended without pay is tough. Demotions are tough. Getting talked to by your "boss"? Not tough.

All the players in this cannabilistic drama need to remember why they get that nice pay check and awesome health care plan and focus only on saving our democracy and getting those children taken care of. This current spat like my children used to have, is hurting our only chance to dethrone the boy king, take the Senate and CARE FOR THOSE CHILDREN.

[ripcord]

15. I haven't noticed the House leadership being as hard on AOC

As AOC is with democrats she doesn't agree with.

[nycbos]

28. Thank you.

[jalan48]

17. Ain't that the truth.

[wryter2000]

19. Last I heard

No one in leadership has served her with any subpoenas. Nor have they demanded documents. Nor have they threatened to charge anyone who works with her with criminal contempt.

And I'll bet AOC would stand up for leadership as she usually has.

[bucolic_frolic]

22. This really is a divisive thread meant to weaken Democratic unity and resolve

beware when posts have dual threads in the same thought - one supporting Democrats, and another blaming Democrats. This is the same strategy used against us in 2016. LOOK closely for this duality - it is a sign of those seeking to sandbag us.

[UniteFightBack]

35. Yeah notice the OP shits this thread out and then splits. No responses NO NOTHING. nt

[ismnotwasm]

24. I am not fucking doing this

Trash. Thread.

[johnp3907]

25. If you put someone on ignore you still see their posts on the homepage.

I don’t remember why I put you on ignore but I sure made the right call.

[nycbos]

27. Imagine if the chief of staff of someone in house leadership...

... wore a t-shit with the image of a nazi collaborator.

Oh wait. That was AOC.

[UniteFightBack]

29. SELF DELETE. nt

[EffieBlack]

40. If you think this is "tough," maybe AOC's not as much of a badass as her fans think she is

If she wants to see “tough,” maybe she should spend an hour dealing with the crap Speaker Pelosi has to handle every day.