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global1

(25,242 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 02:24 AM Jul 2019

How Can Women Or People Of Color Vote For Trump In 2020?......

He's alienated both groups of people. I just can't imagine any women voting for Trump after all of the sexual assaulting accusations attributed to him. And after his racists tweets against the 'Squad' - how could people of color vote for him.

Any woman or person of color that even says they support Trump should face embarrassment from their peers.

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How Can Women Or People Of Color Vote For Trump In 2020?...... (Original Post) global1 Jul 2019 OP
Apparently MFM008 Jul 2019 #1
That is pretty good! MuseRider Jul 2019 #18
For the last two years I have watched women attack POC while simply living. silentEcho Jul 2019 #2
I know a conservative woman l haven't talked with her over a year JonLP24 Jul 2019 #3
My daughters best friend turned marlakay Jul 2019 #10
I heard a story earlier today from an acquaintance who knew PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2019 #4
they are usually bigoted against some group JI7 Jul 2019 #5
BINGO! Behind the Aegis Jul 2019 #8
A few weeks ago, a coworker and I were traveling in MO and went to a restaurant for lunch... VarryOn Jul 2019 #6
Two years ago I decided that I am a misogynist... BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #7
Trump's Black Supporters: Inside a Small and Divided World Celerity Jul 2019 #9
Cognitive dissonance no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #13
Self-hate, Uncle Tom's... 5starlib Jul 2019 #11
Bamboozled by Spike Lee is a great movie too. Celerity Jul 2019 #15
Candace Owens: White Supremacy Is 'Nothing More Than an Election Strategy' struggle4progress Jul 2019 #12
And here's a real problem: no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #14
I agree with all the statements. I have been appalled by the women for trump. Tech Jul 2019 #16
The short line StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #17
I Know Several RobinA Jul 2019 #19
I have several female cousins MuseRider Jul 2019 #20
There were Jews who supported Hitler cause they thought they were "different" from the others. It .. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #21
Sadly, I know four gay women who voted for the shitgibbon. cwydro Jul 2019 #22
They listen to hate radio and faux news. Joe941 Jul 2019 #23
 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
2. For the last two years I have watched women attack POC while simply living.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 02:27 AM
Jul 2019

Video after video of the ugliest of ugly attacking POC. Lots of the video are women.

Every Republican should feel shame. And they do not.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. I know a conservative woman l haven't talked with her over a year
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 02:32 AM
Jul 2019

She favored Trump but she was baffled why Hillary Clinton wasn't locked up over emails. After the election she was surprised Trump won but was glad because she felt Hillary Clinton would make the US look weak on the world stage. I tried to point out she is a bigger hawk than a lot of Republicans (especially when it comes to Russia). She said 'we're not ready for a woman President. I pointed out 7 Muslim-Majority countries have had a female head of state. That pretty much ended the conversation.

Some conservative women can be as misogynistic as men.

marlakay

(11,457 posts)
10. My daughters best friend turned
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:37 AM
Jul 2019

Republican after a boyfriend that way about 8 yrs ago. Her posts on fb have got worse and I hide a lot of them.

She excuses everything negative that comes out or simply doesn't talk about it, hiding head in sand. I think many hide.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
4. I heard a story earlier today from an acquaintance who knew
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 02:56 AM
Jul 2019

of a couple of African American women who'd recently found jobs and were totally convinced that had happened thanks to Trump and now were completely in favor of him.

Personally, I'm horrified. I am white. Which means I have at best a minimal understanding of the African American experience. But, at the risk of being judgemental, I'll suggest these women are what can best be called low information voters. They don't know much history. They have no context for their own experience. They know essentially nothing about Donald Trump and are attributing their jobs to him in delusional ignorance.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
6. A few weeks ago, a coworker and I were traveling in MO and went to a restaurant for lunch...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:03 AM
Jul 2019

While we waited for a table, people kept coming in saying they were there for the "Trump meeting." My guess was it was for volunteers for 2020.

When we finally got our table, we walked past the room where they were meeting. It probably held 40-50 people. Totally full. It looked like the bar scene from Star Wars! I'd say half were white men, but there were a lot of women...several Hispanics, and a handful of blacks. It did not fit the sterotype.

I'd love to know why the women and non-whites were there. I suspect that because we were near to many Fortune 500 businesses, we'd find the homogeity of politics was because of economic status (middle to upper middle class) rather than race or sex.

I work closely with a couple people who are naturalized citizens from Mexico....came here legally, went through the formal immigration process which took several years, and became US citizens. And they are probably the biggest proponents for "the wall" and tightening up immigration and border enforcement. They're not at all what I would have guessed.

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
7. Two years ago I decided that I am a misogynist...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:37 AM
Jul 2019

I am a woman but I hate those other "so called women" who are traitors to my sex and my country.

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
9. Trump's Black Supporters: Inside a Small and Divided World
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:08 AM
Jul 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/us/trump-black-supporters.html

WASHINGTON — The surprise hits of the annual gathering of right-wing activists in Washington were appearances by three black women. Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson, better known as Diamond and Silk, thanked the organizers for inviting them — “two conservative black chicks” — before mocking reparations. Candace Owens, the fiery young YouTube sensation, called on black people to escape from the country’s liberal ideology.

Their unapologetic support for President Trump was greeted with huge applause at the Conservative Political Action Conference, which concluded Saturday with an appearance by the president. Days before, Michael D. Cohen, Mr. Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, testified before a Congressional committee that the president is a racist who had once said that black people were “too stupid” to vote for him. “I don’t believe the president said that,” Ms. Owens said in an interview from the bustling convention hall on Friday. “The second you put him in front of a crowd of black Americans, they love him. They walk away and they say, ‘he’s amazing.’”

All three women are part of the small but diverse collection of black Trump supporters who operate out of TV studio green rooms and appear at rallies far from the president’s inner circle in the West Wing. They advocate on the president’s behalf. Their very presence, some of Mr. Trump’s backers argue, is evidence that the president’s critics are wrong that he is a racist.

At the committee hearing, the surprise appearance of a black Trump surrogate raised fresh debates in Washington about the paltry number of black people who are in Mr. Trump’s orbit — the few who have worked in his private company or work in his White House, serve in his cabinet and speak for him on his favorite medium of cable news — and what their presence means for the administration. According to some polls, 92 percent of black voters, who are overwhelmingly Democrats, disapprove of Mr. Trump. But even among the small collection of Mr. Trump’s African-American supporters, there are factions.

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the two worst, by far, are

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
13. Cognitive dissonance
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:01 AM
Jul 2019

You have Ben Carson and Armstrong Williams as prime examples of Trump doing no wrong.

I listened to Williams on the radio more than a decade ago. He simply justified his allegiance to the Republican Party via his family always voting for the party that freed that slaves after the Civil War no matter what. He refused to see how "his party" pivoted and changed. He bought the marketing slogan of how republicans allow individuals to prosper through hard work.

Fortunately these anomalies don't represent voters of color.

 

5starlib

(191 posts)
11. Self-hate, Uncle Tom's...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:41 AM
Jul 2019

thank God they're few and far between. I'm African-American and ashamed that there are many like Steven in "Django Unchained" still around. If you've seen the movie, you know what I mean.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
12. Candace Owens: White Supremacy Is 'Nothing More Than an Election Strategy'
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:54 AM
Jul 2019

Audrey McNamara
Updated 04.09.19 2:49PM ET /
Published 04.09.19 12:54PM ET

Candace Owens called white supremacy an “election strategy” during a hearing on hate crimes and white nationalism before the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. Owens, communications director for the right-wing organization Turning Point USA, identified herself as a former liberal who has radically changed her viewpoints. During her testimony, Owens said that white supremacy and white nationalism are “words that once held real meaning <but> are now nothing more than an election strategy.” Owens maintained that Tuesday’s hearing should be focused on anti-fascist groups ...

Owens, a pro-Trump pundit, also argued that black conservatives are severely discriminated against, and denied the existence of the Southern Strategy. “Black conservatives who have the audacity to think for ourselves and become educated about our history, and the myth of things, like the Southern Switch and the Southern Strategy, which never happened,” Owens said ...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/candace-owens-white-supremacy-is-nothing-more-than-an-election-strategy

Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth
blowing down the backroads heading south

Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth

You’re an idiot, babe: it’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe


no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
14. And here's a real problem:
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:03 AM
Jul 2019

White Supremacy is an election strategy -- and Trump is dedicated to fulfilling his campaign promises, e.g., The Wall, criminalizing abortion, etc. With him promoting white supremacy, that's one more thing he feels he can justify doing. It's another promise to be kept.

Tech

(1,771 posts)
16. I agree with all the statements. I have been appalled by the women for trump.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:32 AM
Jul 2019

But let's not forget his biggest base is white men. Every time we see a story about a white man doing or saying assholery things, my husband knows what is coming.

And he does not disagree. I glance at him and say, there they go again, making you all look bad. He shakes his head the way I shake my head.

His followers are making us all look bad.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. The short line
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:12 AM
Jul 2019

Most of the very few black Trump supporters I know are low information voters or evangelicals impervious to facts.

I also think most Trump supporters of color take pleasure is being defiant and relish being what my grandmother called "the only flies in the buttermilk," i.e., they think they stand out more and are likely to move up faster with less effort/fewer qualifications than if they had to operate in a diverse environment where people don't think people of color are novelties and tokens.

They remind me of certain people I knew in college who were too obnoxious and unhip to fit in with the black students, so they immersed themselves in the white culture, joining white fraternities, attending only all-white parties, etc., where they became the white students' only black friend and the standard by which their white friends judged all other black people - and parrotted the bigoted and backward views of their white bebefactors usually behaved in such exxagetated stereotypical ways for their delight and amusement that the rest of us were just embarrassed by and for them.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
19. I Know Several
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:26 AM
Jul 2019

women who support Trump and just blow off his many affronts to women. I think they recognize him as a clown on some level, but at this point the S-word (Socialism) is getting thrown around a lot and we can't have that. So they ignore what they don't want to hear and vote for him as the architect of the great economy and a non-Socialist. Just sayin', I certainly don't buy that interpretation, but it's what I hear.

MuseRider

(34,107 posts)
20. I have several female cousins
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:37 AM
Jul 2019

who have spent most of their adult lives in some of the worst of the "shithole" places trying to bring all the "shithole" people to Jesus. They pray before they eat McDonalds loudly and proudly. They are everything Jesus, it is their life and nothing is not affected by that yet they love Donald Trump. Because I have very few relatives left in my life, god knows how I managed to outlive everyone and I am only 65, so I keep them at arms length and never engage in talk of Trump. The "best" of the missionary women got a ticket to go see him for her birthday. I just do not understand how she can make this work in her head. She is not stupid but somehow the clash of what he does and what Jesus would say about that does not enter into her love of Donald. I will never understand it. The ONLY thing she will say to me is that all people deserve forgiveness (she would not be one to yell "lock her up&quot so there is that but the policies with the children when she spent all her adult life "helping" children just does not add up.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. There were Jews who supported Hitler cause they thought they were "different" from the others. It ..
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:43 AM
Jul 2019

... was a very small group but people will convince themselves of a lot of things to stay in their own peaceful world.

Red Don is a threat to non-whites but to them that support him non-whites are a threat to America and he's the only one with enough ... minerals ... to defeat them.

That's another reason it's OK to kill the non-whites children and lock them all up in cages.

He's the most racist person I know

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Sadly, I know four gay women who voted for the shitgibbon.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:53 AM
Jul 2019

Only one black guy that I know did so, and he made it clear he hated Hillary. All of these folks were not close friends, just people I saw in my workday then.

No idea what their opinions are now.

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