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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsQutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)That does not pass the smell test.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)changed to Epstein's, and given to him.
Qutzupalotl
(14,327 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Not saying I necessarily believe it, but ... 1980's passports weren't real high-tech.
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #9)
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htuttle
(23,738 posts)He used the passport more than once. There were border stamps in it.
That's not a very good excuse.
Cartaphelius
(868 posts)I did not think that was an option or even legal.
htuttle
(23,738 posts)It's not like we haven't seen other lawyers breaking the law for clients like Trump and Epstein. Seems like there's a price tag attached to their ethics.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)htuttle
(23,738 posts)Whoever falsely makes, forges, counterfeits, mutilates, or alters any passport or instrument purporting to be a passport, with intent that the same may be used; or
Whoever willfully and knowingly uses, or attempts to use, or furnishes to another for use any such false, forged, counterfeited, mutilated, or altered passport or instrument purporting to be a passport, or any passport validly issued which has become void by the occurrence of any condition therein prescribed invalidating the same
Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 25 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate an act of international terrorism (as defined in section 2331 of this title)), 20 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate a drug trafficking crime (as defined in section 929(a) of this title)), 10 years (in the case of the first or second such offense, if the offense was not committed to facilitate such an act of international terrorism or a drug trafficking crime), or 15 years (in the case of any other offense), or both.
FBaggins
(26,757 posts)That would apply to any fake US passport... and would probably apply to the use of an Austrian passport to enter the US...
... but if he used a fake Austrian passport in travel between the EU and Japan... the US probably couldn't charge him under that law.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)So could be it's actually not illegal to possess unless he himself altered it or caused it to be altered or used it illegally.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)ScratchCat
(2,002 posts)that my buddy gave me a foreign passport with my picture and some other name on it for my birthday. Who hasn't gotten one?
tanyev
(42,609 posts)And I was like, "You guys, what part of NO PRESENTS did you not understand??"
RainCaster
(10,913 posts)Except for the stamps, showing that he used it. This was an Austrian passport, so if it was fake, their government would have no record of this, right? Check with the Austrian embassy.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)then it was given to Epstein.
That's their story. We have no way of knowing it's true or not.
FM123
(10,054 posts)So now I know what to get all my friends for Christmas....
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)FM123
(10,054 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I think that its just that is what was what the FBI found at the NY residence when they raided....who knows what is at the other residences or that he hasn't had hidden elsewhere since.
True Dough
(17,315 posts)Phoenix61
(17,018 posts)the fake passports for the girls Epstein sex trafficked?
DBoon
(22,397 posts)That was my first thought
Hugin
(33,198 posts)I don't keep them in a safe, tho.
llmart
(15,552 posts)He felt the need to keep it locked away.
I call bullshit.
Hugin
(33,198 posts)It was his getaway kit. No question.
All that was missing was a latex Nixon mask.
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...who has everything.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Sure, buddy, sure. Go with that.