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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:36 PM Jul 2019

You don't count the impeachment votes before the impeachment hearings, you do it after the hearings.

DUH!

The stupidity and lack of courage in this country is what will bring us down. After Mueller testifies the Democrats must start impeachment hearings and see where it leads. Not to do so will wreck our democracy.

The evidence is there, it is overwhelming. Show it to the American people in impeachment hearings and if they decide to let Trump slide for all he has done, so be it. Let the American people meet their fate. If they decide to destroy themselves like the American people have done before, that is exactly what should happen.

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You don't count the impeachment votes before the impeachment hearings, you do it after the hearings. (Original Post) shockey80 Jul 2019 OP
Good point leftstreet Jul 2019 #1
+1, 95 votes even before the Mueller hearing is pretty good uponit7771 Jul 2019 #2
It's good but this isn't horseshoes StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #8
And how many of them would there be if 1 flipped quakerboy Jul 2019 #19
not me stopdiggin Jul 2019 #3
Leadership needs to LEAD in crafting the narrative to shape public opinion Fiendish Thingy Jul 2019 #4
THIS! Poiuyt Jul 2019 #13
But they have to go on Summer Recess!!! BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #5
The right road to travel. LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #6
You DO count the votes to open an impeachment inquiry before a vote to open an impeachment inquiry StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #7
I am so over the spineless coward Mueller, what a great American disappointment. Pepsidog Jul 2019 #9
You may be totally correct about this - but let's wait KPN Jul 2019 #11
That's fair, sure hope I am wrong about him. Pepsidog Jul 2019 #22
ok, lets have the hearings, he breaks laws every day, how much proof do we need? nt yaesu Jul 2019 #10
Some real courage, conviction and leadership is critical right now NRaleighLiberal Jul 2019 #12
Yes. And it's time to impeach. DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #14
Both parties have become timid about voting. X_Digger Jul 2019 #15
That is so right. gtar100 Jul 2019 #16
Rec. cwydro Jul 2019 #17
in reviewing all the great legislation passed by Nancy Pelosi while speaker during Dubya's diva77 Jul 2019 #18
Common sensical. kentuck Jul 2019 #20
K&R... spanone Jul 2019 #21
My Rep supports impeachment hearings now! mountain grammy Jul 2019 #23
I couldn't agree more, shockey ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #24
Our democracy does not exist. triron Jul 2019 #25
vote counting never stops and it starts very early fescuerescue Jul 2019 #26
Mueller's testimony will be a non-starter. Don't get your hopes up. It's just round two. Firestorm49 Jul 2019 #27
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. It's good but this isn't horseshoes
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:59 PM
Jul 2019

And even if it were, it's not even close.

But support is building.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
19. And how many of them would there be if 1 flipped
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jul 2019

They are holding as a block. But they have a leader holding them steady to protect the president. What would the count be if that one leader flipped?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,654 posts)
4. Leadership needs to LEAD in crafting the narrative to shape public opinion
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:39 PM
Jul 2019

Not following the polls

Pelosi should create cover for the swing state reps to cite to open an inquiry no later than Labor Day...

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. You DO count the votes to open an impeachment inquiry before a vote to open an impeachment inquiry
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jul 2019

And right now, there aren't enough votes to open an impeachment inquiry.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
11. You may be totally correct about this - but let's wait
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jul 2019

to see what happens next week, shall we? I’m pretty much where you are on Mueller, but I’m willing to wait one more week before calling him a spineless coward or worse. If he disappoints, it will be hard for me not to think worse — like another cog in the traitorous cabal.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
12. Some real courage, conviction and leadership is critical right now
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jul 2019

We have the truth and facts on our side.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
15. Both parties have become timid about voting.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:40 PM
Jul 2019

If an issue doesn't have the votes to pass, it rarely gets raised.

Fuck that, I want people on record voting 'No'.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
16. That is so right.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:44 PM
Jul 2019

I detest our obsession with polls. Polls are not the final vote. Let them make the case, then we can vote and find out. And no, we are not entitled to know the results beforehand. It's far too excessive now. In this case poll results are being used to justify suppression of the right and duty of the House to conduct oversight.

diva77

(7,652 posts)
18. in reviewing all the great legislation passed by Nancy Pelosi while speaker during Dubya's
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jul 2019

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reign, it is astounding to realize now how fragile it all is/was and how important it is to get an impeachment inquiry underway. All the great legislation in the world is rendered impotent while corrupt, greedy, malicious monsters destroy the rule of law.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
26. vote counting never stops and it starts very early
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 09:35 AM
Jul 2019

We are the American people. You and I and everyone else on the this board. We can see the exact same things that every other American in this country can see.

And we know that he's guilty based only on what we see. What we see today. Congress, who can see even more right now also know that he's guilty. Unfortunately, the American people do not decide this. Congress does.

The reality is that the voting counting starts early and never stops. Bills and impeachments aren't decided on vote day. It's decided everyday. It's more like a trial in the media than it is a jury trial in court.

Nancy Pelosi already has determined that the trial has been lost, and she feels that only greater harm to -us- will come by actually holding it. Think of Pelosi as our lawyer who is telling us that settling out of court gives a better result than the trial.

That's a pretty uncomfortable reality. But it's our reality.


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