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What the god damn hell is going on with Oliver Stone? Asks Putin to be godfather? (Original Post) Progressive Law Jul 2019 OP
When you get right down to it, who really cares? TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #1
I care! Stone was an influential progressive. Now he is pushing a pro Putin agenda! Progressive Law Jul 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #5
Oliver Stone worked for Nixon? Wow, I had no idea and would've never guessed ... Trippy (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #8
There's not a single reference I can find on that. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2019 #21
My huge mistake-- that was Roger Stone TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #22
Yeah, none of that sounds true. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2019 #20
It isn't. My computer confused Oliver Stone wit Roger Stone. TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #23
Hmmmm, I thought that might be the case. I kept getting Roger Stone results too when I tried Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2019 #24
he is not a progressive. he is a misogynist conspiracy theorist jackass. JI7 Jul 2019 #10
The world's power struggle is no longer among nations. It is a struggle among rich men. Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #3
When, year-wise, was Stone not a nutjob, in your opinion? RockRaven Jul 2019 #4
Certainly strange, does he back Trump Oregon1947 Jul 2019 #6
I think he likes communism lunatica Jul 2019 #7
That would be DeltaLitProf Jul 2019 #12
Hugo Chavez too Downtown Hound Jul 2019 #40
he has always been this way. it's who he is. JI7 Jul 2019 #9
Stone most certainly is not a Republican . . . DeltaLitProf Jul 2019 #11
If he likes Putin so much let him move to Russia. blueinredohio Jul 2019 #13
I think he did, didn't he? richsonpoordad Jul 2019 #14
I have no idea. blueinredohio Jul 2019 #31
I think that was Steven Seagal, who has been anointed as some kind of Russian cultural emissary Anon-C Jul 2019 #36
I hear echoes of Trump in that comment. Applegate Jul 2019 #37
Is that an Alpha Dog thing? Beringia Jul 2019 #15
he was never a liberal. conspiracy theorists have claimed to be liberal but they have never been JI7 Jul 2019 #17
I guess he won't be making any movies about Hillary or Obama then Beringia Jul 2019 #19
I don't think Oliver Stone has much love for Obama or the Clintons Sapient Donkey Jul 2019 #30
+1 jberryhill Jul 2019 #27
James Woods Disease strikes again . . . hatrack Jul 2019 #16
Oliver Stone said Harvey Weinstein was being lynched JI7 Jul 2019 #18
I especially liked the part where he says "they'll make" his daughter, a grown ass woman, a Russian Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2019 #25
Gee jberryhill Jul 2019 #26
Stone's misrepresenting history in JFK Vinnie From Indy Jul 2019 #28
Agreed. One of the most-dishonest and, frankly, stupid movies I've ever seen. stopbush Jul 2019 #32
One of the best I've seen lame54 Jul 2019 #39
Stone is a right winger. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #29
I think he is still fucked up in the head... MicaelS Jul 2019 #33
He went off the deep end about 25 years ago Downtown Hound Jul 2019 #34
He has jumped on the Putin bandwagon for some time, along with its anti-semetic slurs still_one Jul 2019 #35
Be sure to offer him some punch and cake while he is there. Captain Zero Jul 2019 #38

Response to Progressive Law (Reply #2)

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Oliver Stone worked for Nixon? Wow, I had no idea and would've never guessed ... Trippy (nt)
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:54 AM
Jul 2019
 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
24. Hmmmm, I thought that might be the case. I kept getting Roger Stone results too when I tried
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:29 AM
Jul 2019

searching. As to Oliver Stone. He seems to have lost his shit. Some would claim it happened long ago. But I always thought he was a talented director.

JI7

(93,900 posts)
10. he is not a progressive. he is a misogynist conspiracy theorist jackass.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:23 AM
Jul 2019

Last edited Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Midnight Writer

(25,737 posts)
3. The world's power struggle is no longer among nations. It is a struggle among rich men.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 02:07 AM
Jul 2019

Stone is just picking a side.





RockRaven

(19,749 posts)
4. When, year-wise, was Stone not a nutjob, in your opinion?
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 02:12 AM
Jul 2019

I'm not talking about whether or not he's making interesting, entertaining, artistic, or otherwise enjoyable films. I'm talking about what he says and does in public -- what he says on camera for the world to see/hear.

For me, I'd have to say some time in the early 1990s, at the latest, I had concluded that he was a seriously aberrant weirdo. What exactly his deal is, I know not. But it is of long duration.

Oregon1947

(43 posts)
6. Certainly strange, does he back Trump
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:14 AM
Jul 2019

also? Ive never heard much from him but definitely not a good choice for instilling christian values..

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. I think he likes communism
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:46 AM
Jul 2019

I seem to remember him being enamored of some South American dictator years and years ago. He was always kind of nuts in his paranoia.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
40. Hugo Chavez too
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:38 PM
Jul 2019

But then, lots of people, including on this board, fell victim to thinking Chavez was a great leader. That was definitely one that a lot of us got wrong.

DeltaLitProf

(893 posts)
11. Stone most certainly is not a Republican . . .
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:30 AM
Jul 2019

He reviles Richard Nixon, whom he made an extremely unflattering movie about. Then he made a movie that was sympathetic toward George W. Bush, called W, seeing him as the dupe of his neo-conservative handlers, but basically decent. On the other hand, he does have a tendency to fall for conspiracy theories and charismatic con men. In the past it has been Jim Garrisson and Fidel Castro. Now it's Putin.

Anon-C

(3,440 posts)
36. I think that was Steven Seagal, who has been anointed as some kind of Russian cultural emissary
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jul 2019

...to the US by Putin.

Beringia

(5,623 posts)
15. Is that an Alpha Dog thing?
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:53 AM
Jul 2019

Also mentions he is scared of transgender. Homophobe? I thought he was some big liberal making anti-war films. Boy was I wrong.

JI7

(93,900 posts)
17. he was never a liberal. conspiracy theorists have claimed to be liberal but they have never been
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:02 AM
Jul 2019

liberal. they exposed themselves when it came to treatment of minorites and women.

Beringia

(5,623 posts)
19. I guess he won't be making any movies about Hillary or Obama then
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:08 AM
Jul 2019

Is "conspiracy theorist" an actual political category like democrat?

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
30. I don't think Oliver Stone has much love for Obama or the Clintons
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:49 AM
Jul 2019

I could see him making a movie that portrays either Obama or Clinton is a mostly negative light. A quick search of Oliver Stone with either Clinton or Obama confirms this.

I wonder how twisted a Putin centered movie would be... I'd watch it out of curiosity.

 

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,848 posts)
25. I especially liked the part where he says "they'll make" his daughter, a grown ass woman, a Russian
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:32 AM
Jul 2019

Orthodox.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. Gee
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:53 AM
Jul 2019

A guy whose major accomplishment in life is introducing a generation to the conspiracy theories of an attention-seeking politician is fond of a master of propaganda to sow confusion and doubt?

Who knew.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
28. Stone's misrepresenting history in JFK
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:20 AM
Jul 2019

is no different to me than the vulgar conspiracy theories coming from Alex Jones and 4Chan.

stopbush

(24,852 posts)
32. Agreed. One of the most-dishonest and, frankly, stupid movies I've ever seen.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jul 2019

To believe Stone’s propaganda you have to believe that not only did every crime and law enforcement entity in the world hate JFK and plan to kill him, but that they conspired together to do so. The outright lies in that flick are embarrassing.

And yet the majority of Americans take it as history. Boneheads.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
34. He went off the deep end about 25 years ago
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jul 2019

And he's only gone further down the hole since. I used to really like him as a filmmaker, but he lost me around the turn of the century. That's also right around the time he stopped making successful movies.

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