"Feeling sorry for Melania" and other horseshit...

[PCIntern]

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My father, whom I've referred to countless times in my posts, once told me that the most frightening two words a soldier can hear are the words "Unconditional Surrender". That means and meant that the military must fight until the last breath of the enemy is taken from him and the capitulation is forced rather than elective. For my Dad, who agreed with the policy as implemented in WWII, it meant that he would most certainly die on the shores of the islands of Japan, since they were readying his battalion for the land invasion. The bomb was then dropped of course, and the rest is history, and he, unlike hundreds of thousands of others including the resident populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, was spared.

We must fight and force unconditional surrender of these fascists who have co-opted the Federal Government and are systematically destroying anything and everything which promotes liberty, health, welfare, education, science, and Truth. The process can give no quarter to the enemy...not one iota, because even if half-dead, they will rise up and attempt to destroy us.

So I don't particularly want to hear odes to the sanctity of the wives and children of these miscreants. There is a pervasive evil which is imbued in them all and like the Anopheles mosquito or the Medfly, we must eradicate them from the positions of power, starting with dogcatcher and proceeding up the ladder to the Presidency. I for one give not a millimeter of ground. There is no falling back, only marching forward.

[spanone]

1. K&R...

[Scarsdale]

2. For a woman who came here

and stayed illegally, she is doing well for herself and her parents. To go from escort/nude model to the WH, having every whim catered to - well what can we say? She is almost as evil as her "hosbond". No sympathy from me. What did they do with Duke - er - Earl - er Viscount- er Barron?? Have not seen him in months.

[onlyadream]

7. Someday they'll make a broadway play about her

Something like an evita, only way more evil.

[Grokenstein]

47. "Don't cry for the orange wiener..."

"This reich was supposed to be immortal."
"He broke all his promises, now keep your distance...I said, keep your dista--"

[Beartracks]

52. Track 2: "I Really Don't Care, Do You?"

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[malaise]

11. This woman who was an illegal immigrant

went on TV to attack the nationality of the sitting president, Barack Obama and I don't plan to forget..

I have absolutely no sympathy for her - none none none!

[FoxNewsSucks]

20. She's a grifter who's only mad that her payout is delayed

She's past tRump's trade-in age. Melaria expected to be divorced and rich by now, he expected to have a younger wife. Now they have to wait until he leaves office. Assuming we are rid of him someday.

[lunatica]

35. Barron has probably grown to be taller than Trump

so Trump won’t let us see him, especially together!

[klook]

45. LOL - and has bigger hands. (nt)

[olegramps]

18. She came here illegally. She and family should be sent back to their shit hole country.

We all know that will never happen. This country's laws only apply to people who don't have money and connections with the crooked government that the Republicans have created to only benefit themselves.

[Paka]

33. Slovenia does not want her.

They were glad to get rid of her. And for the record, it isn't a "shit hole" country. It's actually very beautiful and Lubjana is the new hip European capital to travel in.

[ChazInAz]

49. I've been there.

It's a very nice little country.
Surprising number of sculptural art installations in odd corners and streets of the capital, most of them mildly satirical.

[Paka]

57. I have a great Slovenian travel friend.

I've been to visit here multiple times. She visits me in Thailand and just recently connected with me on Corsica for a week of fun.

Lubjana is a fantastic walking city where you discover all kinds of fun things.

[olegramps]

59. I meant to be sarcastic, mocking Trump's "shit hole country" designation.

[Duppers]

3. Another K & R

[llmart]

4. I feel like we are in the fight of our lives.

I'm not one for hyperbole or fearmongering, but what we witnessed at this traitor's last rally should scare the beejeebers out of those of us that are sane. If you think these people at his rallies have been emboldened to come out from under their rocks and do what they did in Charlottesville and Greenville, you just wait. If he wins/steals the election again, there will be more of them slithering out from their rocks and what they do now will pale compared to what we will see if he wins reelection.

[Pepsidog]

12. It was a modern day Nazi rally. Another Du member posted a piece last night about how Hitler was a

a bumbling, chaotic leader like Trump. In Germany they dismissed him as an aberration and continually underestimated him and his support. We would do well not to underestimate Trump capacity for chaos and evil.

[llmart]

22. Oh, I agree wholeheartedly with you and I did read that thread you're referencing.

I watched a short PBS clip last night on how Stone Mountain in Georgia came about, and how they have a law that states it can never be removed/altered in any way. It was conceived and erected as a tribute to the KKK. I've never been there, but when I lived in the South I worked with a woman who would get absolutely beside herself with how touching and beautiful a visit to Stone Mountain made her feel. She kept urging me to go (I used to have to go to Georgia on business quite often), and even back then (late 80's - early 90's) I thought, no way in hell would I go there.

This is what frightens me the most. There are plenty of people in our country who would love to have white nationalism rule.

[klook]

46. It's a stupid and offensive monument, but the cool thing is,

lots of black people visit Stone Mountain Park every week. When I’ve gone there to bike ride, there are always many black people walking, swimming, picnicking, and enjoying the park — Stonewall Jackson be damned!

On edit: And I hope to live long enough to see that asinine carving sandblasted off the mountain and replaced with figures of Martin Luther King, John Lewis, Jimmy Carter, and Stacey Abrams.

[PatrickforO]

51. Stacey Abrams. Yes. There you go. She is absolutely

outstanding. She was the perfect person to give the Dem rebuttal to Trump's SOTU speech.

[Farmer-Rick]

25. And a surprisingly bad commander in chief too.

He made all sorts of unilateral military decisions that inevitably led to the Nazis' downfall.

If not for some of the more diabolical genius strategists supporting Hitler, he would have been wiped out when he attacked Poland.

And that's the point. If not for the evil capitalist kings, a little Russian mobster and money grubbing henchmen, Trump would be gone by now.

If Melania didn't provide him with a sexual outlet, he would be forced to hunt down more unwilling partners. Actively predating on his voter's children maybe where they draw the line.

He's a psychopath and because of that he has very perverted sexual needs that most people would find abusive. Melania doesn't or if she does, she likes the money more.

Like all the people around Trump, she supports him in his political abuse of others. If she didn't, she would have to dump him and that might just force him over the edge. She enables him to be the monster he is.

[calimary]

27. I've come to view them as a latter-day version of the "good Germans".

The so-called “good Germans” believed their Fuhrer and believed IN him. They were filled to the brim with denial. And they had a VERY rude awakening when it came to an end and he and his girlfriend took the easy way out, leaving damnable wreckage and ruin and suffering for everybody else to have to pick through and clean up. They didn’t fully realize what had been done in their name - like what happened at the camps and in the gas chambers and the ovens.

And they were shocked and rudely wrenched awake.

Wonder if we’re moving in that direction here, and now?

[Pepsidog]

32. And it was Eisenhower,I believe, who forced towns folks surrounding the death camps to see what was

done in their name. Marching them past the piles of dead emaciated bodies.

[dhol82]

39. Hitler May have been bumbling and inept however,

he was a brilliant orator. He was able to speak to the people and inspire them to believe in every evil idea he spoke of.
That’s my problem with dump. He inspires his followers to believe really horrendous ‘truths’ that have no basis in reality.
This scares me. Dump is totally capable of being the new Hitler.

[Pepsidog]

42. He certainly was which makes him especially dangerous. Read the Newsweek article about

about how Trump and Hitler were both inept at governing but brilliant propagandists. That the chaos they created increased popular support. It’s alarming.

[rampartc]

5. fascists would be better organized

these are barbarians who do not want to understand the civilization they are destroying.

i'm afraid that rome could not be rebuilt until the last gaul was thrown onto the fire.

at some point the "elite" will realize how dangerous this trash that they have incited is.

[onlyadream]

9. Maybe they are organized?

This is an inept administration, but the forces that are driving it seems organized to me.

[FakeNoose]

6. Any person who accepts a government position of authority

... must swear their allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. This is true for civilian and military, whether elected, appointed or drafted into service. Swearing allegiance to the Constitution - not to a person, not to a party, nor to any group. Do people even understand the meaning and the importance of that?

I think if they did understand, a lot of this shit wouldn't happen. There needs to be consequences to these people for what they're doing to our government. Americans need to be re-educated, and if not then they should be permanently banned from government positions of authority. I'd start with everyone working in the White House right now.

[They_Live]

13. + 1000

All that have been silent and not tried to stop Trump are complicit.

[keithbvadu2]

34. "... must swear their allegiance"

Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

(before August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will at all times loyally and honestly
serve my people and country
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

The Fuehrer Oath
(effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

[Ferrets are Cool]

8. K and R

[Baltimike]

10. Also, it forces us to bring politeness to a war zone. Fuck that. nt

[DeeDeeNY]

14. Melania's mindset?

Her “I don’t really care Do you?” jacket said it all.

[area51]

24. +1 n/t

[Farmer-Rick]

26. Yes exactly

Her willingness to go along with the political abuse of others, and probably sexual abuse too, enables him to be the monster he is. And she doesn't care as long as she gets in on his stolen wealth.

[myohmy2]

15. harsh...

" So I don't particularly want to hear odes to the sanctity of the wives and children of these miscreants. There is a pervasive evil which is imbued in them all... "

...but there is a saying, "Little Rats grow into Big Rats."

...I think I see what you mean...

...

[catbyte]

16. K & R. BTW, my dad, a Marine Raider, was on the dock in San Diego too waiting to be shipped

out to mainland Japan for the invasion when they dropped The Bomb. Maybe they knew each other. It's weird to think about, but most likely neither one of us would be here if they hadn't dropped that damned thing.

[PCIntern]

17. You are exactly correct

My dad was four years in theater

[lunatica]

36. Now that's a sobering thought!

Yikes!

[lillypaddle]

19. Preach!

[dlk]

21. Sadly, You are Right-The Greatest Threat to Our Democracy is the Republican Party

This party is a cancer that has metastasized and if we don’t go all out to combat it, we, as well as our children and grandchildren, will succumb to it’s poison.

[ProfessionalLeft]

23. AWESOME FUCKING POST!!

The republicans are no longer the "opposition" and haven't been since the 1980 election. They are and have been the *enemy* since the ascension of St. Ronald of Reagan. Giving the Bush/Cheney war criminals a pass was a mistake. Democratic administrations never take it to the enemy. And that's why I support almost any candidate running other than Joe Biden, who would be another "nice" president. I've had it with nice. I want a fighter in the WH who recognizes that we're at war!

P.S. My standard disclaimer -- I will vote for Biden if he is the Democratic candidate.

[elocs]

28. This election is the Left's to lose.

We have the numbers and votes to make Trump a 1 term president.
No pouting if our preferred candidate does not get the nomination, no purity tests, no lamenting we don't have the perfect candidate because that person does not exist. Just vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party if you live in any battleground state
Because if Trump wins and gets another 4 years, it's all over.

[lunatica]

37. I plan to do exactly that

though so far, of the forerunners, there isn’t one I couldn’t get behind.

[Mike Nelson]

29. Agree about...

… Melania. We're beyond the "dutiful wife" as a possession to be admired or felt sorry for... I don't have much admiration for how the Third Lady conducts herself. However, I do not feel it's right to include their youngest son. Given his parents, there isn't a lot of hope - but, I wouldn't start until he's out of whatever Ivy League school they get for him.

[onecaliberal]

30. The third nude model is a grifting know nothing who loves money more than anything.

I don’t really care, do you?

[LibDemAlways]

38. She's as worthless as they come. She got the

most press when she disappeared for a month because of a totally bogus kidney condition....ahem, actually plastic surgery, probably breast augmentation and more work on her waxy face. She's a real piece of work. The one I feel sorry for is Barron. He didn't ask to be the offspring of a gold digging nude model and a racist, grifter con artist. He must be bullied mercilessly at school....a fate no kid should have to endure.

[onecaliberal]

40. Yeah I wonder what his life is like.

[UTUSN]

31. K&R

[warmfeet]

41. To hell with all of them. NT

[concreteblue]

43. It's time. I'm in:

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[LS_Editor]

44. It wasn't the bomb, it was Soviet Russia that convinced Japan to surrender.

In the end.

I agree an invasion of Japan would have been a bloodbath. That's why Truman dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. Imagine Americans finding out we had unspeakably powerful bombs and Truman decided to allow hundreds of thousands of American casualties in an invasion of mainland Japan.

[TiberiusB]

48. Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were war crimes. Period.

The intentional targeting of civilian populations isn't some hazy rule open to interpretation. We bombed Japan to demonstrate our power to Russia and to punish the Japanese. A land invasion would not have cost hundreds of thousands of lives, either. That's just massive hyperbole built up over the decades to justify the attacks. That would mean more soldiers would die in Japan than in the rest of WWII. Not likely. We even continued to bomb Japan for days after the Nagasaki strike. Think about this, if Japan was truly prepared to fight to the last man, woman, and child, why did the atomic bombs change anything? Why did Japan open negotiations for surrender before the bombings? Really, there is no way to spin the atomic bombing of Japan into some sort of humanitarian act.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/was-the-atomic-bomb-needed-hiroshima-and-moral-injury_b_59243192e4b0b28a33f62f60

https://www.theweek.com/articles/716819/atomic-bombings-hiroshima-nagasaki-war-crimes-full-stop

[LS_Editor]

58. There was no spin. And I said it wasn't the atomic bombs that forced Japan to surrender.

I said Soviet Russia entering the war against Japan convinced the Japanese to surrender to the United States.

At no time did I suggest the dropping of either atomic bomb was a humanitarian act and not a war crime - which it was, just like the carpet bombing of cities during the war. I challenge you to point out where I said anything you accused me of.

I suggest you read closer and assess your own prejudices before you reply next time.

[TiberiusB]

60. First, I meant to respond to the OP...second...

Truman pretty much admitted the bombings were for revenge and to demonstrate U.S. power to the Russians (and Japan, obviously). Yes, he wanted to avoid an invasion, but Japan was already pursuing talks for surrender. An invasion would have been unnecessary. The projected casualty numbers for Operation Downfall ballooned over time from under 50k to over a million. It's impossible to believe that people would back any invasion with those kinds of casualties. It was never going to happen, and I suspect the rising numbers were meant to solidify any argument against invasion.

[Historic NY]

50. She was a Commie just like her parents....

she bared her ass to get dickweeds attention. She wasn't a nude model she was a porn model.

[pansypoo53219]

53. she made her bed. trophy.

[we can do it]

54. More booby prize than trophy.

[BSdetect]

55. The Russians understood what it took to defeat the Germans - Take no prisoners was often ordered

"The process can give no quarter to the enemy...not one iota, because even if half-dead, they will rise up and attempt to destroy us."

[Hortensis]

56. "We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated

in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."

That's Nancy Pelosi quoting liberal Justice Louis Brandeis in her address to the nation on the opening of the 116th congress. From the highest-ranking Democrat in the nation, the newly elected Speaker of the House, wow!

The MSM buried what is actually a huge story, but you can be sure our new billionaire and centimillionaire classes heard her loud and clear. Not that they didn't already know and weren't already at war with the Democratic Party has always been an existential threat to them.

Those are the enemy we must destroy. It's not a matter of their surrender. We use our voting power as citizens to eliminate wealth accumulation that threatens the existence of our democracy. We are 330,000,000 people to whom a paltry 70,000 families are causing great harm. We not only can but it's our duty. Our party will act when we give them enough power.

It's not like our grandparents and our party hadn't done it before. We need to be even firmer this time, though. Wealth accumulation so extreme that it's incompatible with government of, by and for the people must not be allowed.