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*************MUELLER HEARING THREAD 4************************ (Original Post) bdamomma Jul 2019 OP
Lieu: "The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opinion..." brooklynite Jul 2019 #1
Wow, that's very damning. OliverQ Jul 2019 #7
Is there a clip of that exchange? Liberty Belle Jul 2019 #129
it's picking up bigtree Jul 2019 #2
Debbie Lasko Lars39 Jul 2019 #3
What a bottom feeder! MoonRiver Jul 2019 #14
Allowed to complete job unencumbered. Yes Lars39 Jul 2019 #4
republicans starting to falter fishwax Jul 2019 #5
March 27 Letter Lars39 Jul 2019 #6
Lesko flustered Lars39 Jul 2019 #8
Lesko is blowing it fishwax Jul 2019 #9
She's terrible! smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #13
How many times WP was cited? Lars39 Jul 2019 #10
gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. No Not Really. librechik Jul 2019 #11
volume 2 is mostly regurgitated press stories fishwax Jul 2019 #12
That's why I don't think Obstruction will get him. We all saw it. Even GOPers can't deny it happened Hoyt Jul 2019 #106
Wish he'd step up to this moment in history - he was silent about Barr's lies... polichick Jul 2019 #15
+1 Baitball Blogger Jul 2019 #36
Jayapal is up...she's good Lars39 Jul 2019 #16
Lesko not up to task Glimmer of Hope Jul 2019 #17
Manafort lied and briefed Trumps lawyers Lars39 Jul 2019 #18
Jayapal had a good summary Lars39 Jul 2019 #19
Agreed! llmart Jul 2019 #41
Guy Reschenthaler is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #20
We call him "Guy Smiley". He is a total tool. PA Democrat Jul 2019 #27
Now he takes the opportunity to blow his own little horn. PA Democrat Jul 2019 #31
Back to Ken Starr (eyeroll) Lars39 Jul 2019 #21
Why is Reschenthaler bringing up the Independent Counsel statute? Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #22
Trying to paint Meuller as partisan Lars39 Jul 2019 #25
Thankfully Mueller was able to point out he wasn't working under an expired statute. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #32
OH MY GOD, CHRIS PRATT IS A CONGRESSMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2019 #23
FTW!!! padah513 Jul 2019 #48
WTF bdamomma Jul 2019 #24
They've got to discuss anything except obstruction and elections Lars39 Jul 2019 #26
Holy shit! Reschenthaler just screwed up big time! At least... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #28
I'm thankful I'm not represented by any of these Republican assholes. dem4decades Jul 2019 #29
Every time Timmygoat Jul 2019 #34
He's got padah513 Jul 2019 #49
He is so proud of his athletic physique, he thinks he hides it in his jacket. redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #54
Lol what physique? padah513 Jul 2019 #85
Sorry I forgot the sarcasm.... redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #112
"You make choices about what goes into indictment." SKKY Jul 2019 #30
Of course a prosecutor makes choices about what goes into an indictment. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #40
Indeed. And it shows that Trump would have been indicted if not for OLC opinion... SKKY Jul 2019 #45
Val Demings is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #33
Lou Correa is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #35
Republican: you compiled 450 pages of evidence of bad things the president did fishwax Jul 2019 #37
Ha, ha Gym... no more time for you! demmiblue Jul 2019 #38
Dimming yields to Correa because meuller will hear from her again in the next year Lars39 Jul 2019 #43
I didn't quite follow her meaning padah513 Jul 2019 #56
She meant impeachment hearings Lars39 Jul 2019 #66
Oh okay thanks padah513 Jul 2019 #72
Back to Flynn lying Lars39 Jul 2019 #39
Oh, c'mon, Reschenthaler,... Mersky Jul 2019 #42
Ooh, Correa is laying out why president twitter fired Comey blogslut Jul 2019 #44
Talking about Comey's firing Lars39 Jul 2019 #46
Ben Cline is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #47
Sigh. His district was Democratic when I lived there. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #51
'I have very limited time,' elleng Jul 2019 #57
This guys out in the woods Lars39 Jul 2019 #50
Hillary's emails! Who won the bingo? Lars39 Jul 2019 #52
Cline needs to lay off the caffeine. nt zackymilly Jul 2019 #53
The gall of insulting Mueller's legal acumen. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #55
Cline looks at Mueller like he wants to kill him. nt zackymilly Jul 2019 #59
who is this scum bdamomma Jul 2019 #58
Any of these hearings wouldn't be complete without a reference to Clinton. demmiblue Jul 2019 #64
cline brings up Hilary's emails ... dweller Jul 2019 #60
How much longer is this hearing supposed to go? llmart Jul 2019 #61
Mary Gay Scanlon is up...now less than 4 minutes each Lars39 Jul 2019 #62
Are these GOP dorks ScratchCat Jul 2019 #63
Discussing WikiLeaks Lars39 Jul 2019 #65
Greg Steuben is up...discuss interviewing for job Lars39 Jul 2019 #67
And Mueller responded that that wasn't the purpose of the interview. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #73
Steube's treatment of Mueller is not a good look for the Florida Man. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #74
Repigs bdamomma Jul 2019 #68
Yes, 'Bully' part of their job description. elleng Jul 2019 #70
Impact of meddling undertaken by other agencies Lars39 Jul 2019 #69
Steuben pushing "Unverified Steele Dossier" Lars39 Jul 2019 #71
Too bad Mueller can't ask about his combat record if he wants to talk about credibility. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #79
Steuben is an angry lying bully. gademocrat7 Jul 2019 #80
LIVE BLOG 2: Mueller Says Trump Could Be Charged After Leaving Office riversedge Jul 2019 #75
Steube is really really arrogant malaise Jul 2019 #76
Meuller cannot speak to Steele Dossier Lars39 Jul 2019 #77
You won't speak about it more Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #78
Sylvia Garcia is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #81
Going into Stone indictment Lars39 Jul 2019 #82
How robleb Jul 2019 #83
Steube, your listening and comprehension skills suck. nt Mersky Jul 2019 #84
yes they do robleb Jul 2019 #89
Don't fucking name bdamomma Jul 2019 #86
HA ha, Steube Tarc Jul 2019 #87
who was the repig dweller Jul 2019 #88
Point again being made that no one is above the law Lars39 Jul 2019 #90
Kelley Armstrong is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #91
With all these accusations of partisanship, Bayard Jul 2019 #92
Inferring Meuller is not impartial Lars39 Jul 2019 #93
'It is not done,' elleng Jul 2019 #96
So the report exonerated Trump but the Mueller team was biased against Trump... Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2019 #108
The illogical will not occur to the base. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #114
Hillary emails again Lars39 Jul 2019 #94
Asking about political affiliation, it is not done Lars39 Jul 2019 #95
In 25 years never asked about political affiliation Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #97
Kelly Armstrong bdamomma Jul 2019 #98
FFS Armstrong talking about Hillary Lars39 Jul 2019 #99
He is way out of line attacking the partisanship of the staff and... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #102
Joe Neguse is up....Trump tower and Junior. HopeIcks Lars39 Jul 2019 #100
Armstrong is a jerk, and his point is stupid, but it will play well on fox news fishwax Jul 2019 #101
Sadly, very well! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #103
This fuckface is saying Mueller team had lawyers that gave $12000 to Clinton Takket Jul 2019 #104
And why didn't someone raise the point that Republicans were part of the team as well? Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #107
If you can't argue the facts, shoot the messenger I guess. Takket Jul 2019 #110
These Republicans are either delusional or corrupt - or both. polichick Jul 2019 #105
Depending upon which one, I think it's both in various proportions. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #109
Showing a trump directing hicks about adoption in emails Lars39 Jul 2019 #111
Mike Johnson is up Lars39 Jul 2019 #113
Is he the idiot delivering the GOP final statement regurgitating debunked talking points? Pacifist Patriot Jul 2019 #117
Yes Lars39 Jul 2019 #121
Johnson is another lying rethug tool. gademocrat7 Jul 2019 #123
R-LA told Mueller he was on "the far right" Ponietz Jul 2019 #120
Mr Johnson robleb Jul 2019 #115
Truly. Lars39 Jul 2019 #118
Blah Blah Blah Blah LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #126
Wouldn't let Meuller interrupt him...blathering about the report Lars39 Jul 2019 #116
Why do they implicate bdamomma Jul 2019 #119
I think the republicans are starting to piss off Mueller. redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #122
The guy behind him also have very expressive faces Lars39 Jul 2019 #127
HAVE been. elleng Jul 2019 #128
Ending ths thread. bdamomma Jul 2019 #124
I'm surprised Mueller didn't figght him on the statement "Presiodent cooperated fully."! Kiar! nt napi21 Jul 2019 #125
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
1. Lieu: "The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opinion..."
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:04 AM
Jul 2019

Lieu: "The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?"

Mueller: "That is correct."

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
2. it's picking up
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:05 AM
Jul 2019

...Dems are getting more pointed, and Mueller is becoming more responsive to their line of questioning.

Raskin on now, being wonderfully Raskin...

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
14. What a bottom feeder!
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:10 AM
Jul 2019

Tried to imply that Mueller discriminated against FAUX in his report!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. She's terrible!
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jul 2019

Now she's on him about what media reports he has cited, implying that he over cited the WaPo and the NYT vs. Fox News.

librechik

(30,957 posts)
11. gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. No Not Really.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jul 2019

They got nothin but whiny whataboutism. They even went to Clinton. Oh, poor Trump, treated differently than Clinton.

Poor Debbie Lesko, getting the rug pulled out from under her repeatedly.

fishwax

(29,346 posts)
12. volume 2 is mostly regurgitated press stories
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jul 2019

Yeah. I mean, it's been clear from the beginning that Trump was trying to obstruct the investigation. He admitted it on 60 Minutes.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
106. That's why I don't think Obstruction will get him. We all saw it. Even GOPers can't deny it happened
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jul 2019

without looking like fools. Yet, nothing has happened. I just don't think Obstruction will result in Impeachment in House. If it would, they could have begun Impeachment early in 2017.

To me, as soon as Mueller said in his opening, there was no conspiracy/coordination with Russia, and Mueller said Barr did not interfere with the investigation, we were in a posture of salvaging what we can.

Personally, at this point, I think we should turn to a host of other matters for Impeachment including advancement of racism, financial irregularities, dereliction of duty, encouraging violence, abuse of power, attempting to undermine America's position globally, harming immigrants, poor symbol for America globally and domestically, and so much more.

We can throw in Obstruction, but alone it does not appear to have enough impact.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
15. Wish he'd step up to this moment in history - he was silent about Barr's lies...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jul 2019

except for mentioning the letter he wrote. Not nearly strong enough.

llmart

(17,617 posts)
41. Agreed!
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jul 2019

Looks like she's someone that Trump would include in his "send her back" group. I mean the name alone would intimidate him.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
32. Thankfully Mueller was able to point out he wasn't working under an expired statute.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jul 2019

Not sure if Reschenthaler was able to still score a point, but at least that happened.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
23. OH MY GOD, CHRIS PRATT IS A CONGRESSMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:15 AM
Jul 2019

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE EVER TELL ME THAT BEFORE?

Sorry.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
24. WTF
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jul 2019

talking about Ken Starr and Clinton, these repigs are reaching.

The repigs are nothing about lemmings.

Just let these repigs run out the clock.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
28. Holy shit! Reschenthaler just screwed up big time! At least...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jul 2019

if he was hoping to push the Republican narrative on this.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
34. Every time
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:19 AM
Jul 2019

I see that little thug Jim Jordan I have to wonder why he cannot afford to buy a jacket.

redstatebluegirl

(12,827 posts)
54. He is so proud of his athletic physique, he thinks he hides it in his jacket.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jul 2019

I think he would show up in a tight muscle shirt if he could.

redstatebluegirl

(12,827 posts)
112. Sorry I forgot the sarcasm....
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:49 AM
Jul 2019

He doesn't have one but most ex athletes think they have it.

SKKY

(12,801 posts)
30. "You make choices about what goes into indictment."
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jul 2019

Mueller slipped. That gives a bit of insight into his discussions. Huge.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
40. Of course a prosecutor makes choices about what goes into an indictment.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:20 AM
Jul 2019

They have to decide what charges can be proved to a jury, and that's always a matter of discretion.

SKKY

(12,801 posts)
45. Indeed. And it shows that Trump would have been indicted if not for OLC opinion...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jul 2019

...which completely refutes Trump. It just surprised me that it was a Republican that got that out of him.

padah513

(2,710 posts)
56. I didn't quite follow her meaning
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:28 AM
Jul 2019

Unless she meant to say the next hearing this afternoon but I don't know if she's on the Intelligence Committee or not

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
42. Oh, c'mon, Reschenthaler,...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jul 2019

tRump has received so much official deference and technical judicial leeway it's sickening.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
51. Sigh. His district was Democratic when I lived there.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:27 AM
Jul 2019

It's been in Republican hands since 1993. Breaks my heart.

llmart

(17,617 posts)
61. How much longer is this hearing supposed to go?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jul 2019

Will there be closing remarks? I hope by Nadler?


I'm starting to feel sorry for Mueller, only because of his age.

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
63. Are these GOP dorks
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:30 AM
Jul 2019

really saying that Mueller didn't create a list of "good" things Trump has done as one of their arguments? Really?

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
68. Repigs
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jul 2019

staying true to form:

Assholes that they are. Bullies all.


Steele dossier. So rude so loud. Greg Steube what an asshole.

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
75. LIVE BLOG 2: Mueller Says Trump Could Be Charged After Leaving Office
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jul 2019


https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/live-blog-2-mueller-testimony-continues
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LIVE BLOG 2: Mueller Says Trump Could Be Charged After Leaving Office





robleb

(313 posts)
89. yes they do
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jul 2019

The American people want a lot... like to see Trump's tax returns. What about that Mr Steupid

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
86. Don't fucking name
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jul 2019

the American people. They don't know anything about the American people.

Repigs are horrible so rude and arrogant.

dweller

(28,410 posts)
88. who was the repig
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jul 2019

that insinuated Mueller was unAmerican?
Reihsen something?
did I hear him correctly?

✌🏼️

Bayard

(29,693 posts)
92. With all these accusations of partisanship,
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jul 2019

Why has no one asked Mueller if he's a rethug or Dem?

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
108. So the report exonerated Trump but the Mueller team was biased against Trump...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jul 2019

They're really playing both sides of the road here.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
102. He is way out of line attacking the partisanship of the staff and...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jul 2019

questioning the integrity of Mueller's hiring practices.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
104. This fuckface is saying Mueller team had lawyers that gave $12000 to Clinton
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jul 2019

IT IS NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IF SOMEINE WHO IS NOT A MAGAT INVESTIGATES DRUMPF

these people. Dammit.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
107. And why didn't someone raise the point that Republicans were part of the team as well?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jul 2019

The implication that Democratic investigators can't be impartial, but Republican ones can???

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
117. Is he the idiot delivering the GOP final statement regurgitating debunked talking points?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jul 2019

i.e. how much the investigation cost the tax payers.

I had to mute.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
119. Why do they implicate
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jul 2019

us how about those tax cuts??? Repigs are horrible, Fall on that sword you bastards.

Mike Johnson (R)

redstatebluegirl

(12,827 posts)
122. I think the republicans are starting to piss off Mueller.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jul 2019

He is having to work hard to keep his peace.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
125. I'm surprised Mueller didn't figght him on the statement "Presiodent cooperated fully."! Kiar! nt
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jul 2019
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