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Cattledog

(6,654 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:32 PM Jul 2019

Pets are 'scared' and look around for their owners in dying moments.

In a viral social media post, the anonymous vet wrote that animals “don’t understand why you left them” in their dying moments.

“I beg you DO NOT LEAVE THEM,” the message shared by Hillcrest Veterinary Clinic in South Africa read.

“DO not make them transition from life to death in a room full of strangers in a place they don’t like.

“The thing you people need to know that most of you don’t is that THEY SEARCH FOR YOU WHEN YOU LEAVE THEM BEHIND!!!!

?w660

“He said when he has to put an animal down 90% of owners don't actually want to be in the room when he injects them so the animal's last moments are usually them frantically looking around for their owners &tbh that broke me,” Ms Dietrich wrote in a tweet.

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Pets are 'scared' and look around for their owners in dying moments. (Original Post) Cattledog Jul 2019 OP
Our three dogs were put down or died naturally in my arms. phylny Jul 2019 #1
I did the same with our five Jack Russell Terriers. gademocrat7 Jul 2019 #27
I stayed with Boudicca, touching and talking to her until she was gone. And for a while, afterwards Siwsan Jul 2019 #2
I do the same. Tell them I love them and keep at least one hand on them. SharonAnn Jul 2019 #79
We all stayed with Goldie. She laid down against my leg, and went to sleep. calimary Jul 2019 #138
That's how I reacted Siwsan Jul 2019 #145
I have never done this CountAllVotes Jul 2019 #3
This makes me cry so much RockaFowler Jul 2019 #4
I held my first kitty, looked into her eyes... roamer65 Jul 2019 #5
I'm shocked by the percentage being so high BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #6
I was too. And sadly, it made me feel a little better because spooky3 Jul 2019 #28
You just reminded me of something. I started bringing home my departed pet in a box Maraya1969 Jul 2019 #61
I have been with my standard poodles when they have to leave. PWPippinesq Jul 2019 #159
You did good. BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #144
Thanks. Your buddy sounds very lovable. spooky3 Jul 2019 #163
Interesting. Our (used to be) vet discouraged owners tavernier Jul 2019 #7
that's because your VET didn't want to deal stopdiggin Jul 2019 #32
Wow. Rorey Jul 2019 #71
When we had to let our beloved Dulcinea go due to her cancer Stonepounder Jul 2019 #77
How sweet. (Eyes are stinging think about it) tavernier Jul 2019 #148
Fuck. There go the waterworks again... calimary Jul 2019 #167
I'll bet that vet is a repuglicon. No feeling, just profits. erronis Jul 2019 #103
I once had a vet like that radical noodle Jul 2019 #178
We stayed with our elderly dog Bettie Jul 2019 #8
I don't think this is true. milestogo Jul 2019 #9
exactly qazplm135 Jul 2019 #17
Would you leave a human family member in their final hour. democratisphere Jul 2019 #20
a pet isn't a human qazplm135 Jul 2019 #26
I don't see the difference... tonedevil Jul 2019 #39
the difference is qazplm135 Jul 2019 #48
Your certainty... tonedevil Jul 2019 #76
I didn't say ALL animals in every case qazplm135 Jul 2019 #88
So what percent of non-human animals... tonedevil Jul 2019 #108
silly question qazplm135 Jul 2019 #110
You are absolutely correct... tonedevil Jul 2019 #116
lol qazplm135 Jul 2019 #129
Perhaps I misunderstood... tonedevil Jul 2019 #133
I mean not exactly the same qazplm135 Jul 2019 #137
A difference of degree not vastly. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #139
Animals have been seen going to high ground before a tsunami, human died because Blue_true Jul 2019 #153
sigh qazplm135 Jul 2019 #155
I will stay with my memory, what happened was real and me and my Blue_true Jul 2019 #157
well qazplm135 Jul 2019 #158
You are so right arthritisR_US Jul 2019 #173
Many pets have an extremely close bond with their family members. democratisphere Jul 2019 #42
I said nothing about whether pets and humans have close bonds qazplm135 Jul 2019 #50
No one is so great and so wonderful when a pet is dying. democratisphere Jul 2019 #69
no, they don't qazplm135 Jul 2019 #73
Not euthanizing humans is frequently inhuman. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #81
lol qazplm135 Jul 2019 #86
I guess if you haven't any... tonedevil Jul 2019 #87
thanks qazplm135 Jul 2019 #131
OK /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #136
I just don't think anyone can be sure of what they hear or don't hear. Rorey Jul 2019 #89
I've worked in nursing homes qazplm135 Jul 2019 #96
I apologize Rorey Jul 2019 #118
my father died. barbtries Jul 2019 #104
I don't know you, and I didn't know your mom Rorey Jul 2019 #112
thanks Rorey. barbtries Jul 2019 #113
LOL it's not my name Rorey Jul 2019 #124
that's how i ended up with barbtries barbtries Jul 2019 #135
That's hilarious! Rorey Jul 2019 #143
and that's a very fair and reasonable way to approach it qazplm135 Jul 2019 #121
I think I better put in my living will Rorey Jul 2019 #142
My feelings exactly. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #78
"Dogs, cats and other pets have equal standing with human family members and should be treated WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #146
You do realize this comes off far more as if you're defending your own actions than anything else ET Awful Jul 2019 #92
you have no idea what is going on in their heads qazplm135 Jul 2019 #125
And you know exactly what's going on in their heads? ET Awful Jul 2019 #165
Lol qazplm135 Jul 2019 #168
People have a wide variety of experiences and relationships with their pets, and shaming them WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #31
Its a fact that sick and dying animals seek seclusion. milestogo Jul 2019 #83
There is an evolutionary advantage to this behavior .. jb5150 Jul 2019 #93
Exactly. milestogo Jul 2019 #141
Losing a pet is so hard. Your cat knew she was loved. Politicub Jul 2019 #130
absolutely she did qazplm135 Jul 2019 #132
It doesn't matter what they think. There are a lot of people patting themselves Politicub Jul 2019 #150
pets bring a ton of joy qazplm135 Jul 2019 #154
Good point. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #29
That's what happened with one of our DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #43
"I doubt that this was written by an actual vet." Merlot Jul 2019 #84
They know. They know so much more than we give them credit for knowing. If you were japple Jul 2019 #127
Agreed. It's a bullshit story. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #149
Agreed. klook Jul 2019 #174
I watched our first pet pass... BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #10
I am so sorry for your experience and I hope you are able to forgive yourself. You did what WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #37
Thanks... I'm getting there. nt. BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #66
Would never do it any other way. The two times I've had to do it, I felt much better for holding Hoyt Jul 2019 #11
Ohhhh.......sniffling here. Bayard Jul 2019 #12
I couldn't help but cry as I held her. Duppers Jul 2019 #34
Next time, I'll pay a vet to drive to the house. Duppers Jul 2019 #56
I told my most recent lost pet, "I love you to pieces and I am so sorry." spooky3 Jul 2019 #35
When my beardie died five years ago, I flew my middle child down from Iowa to say good bye Gothmog Jul 2019 #13
😢 Duppers Jul 2019 #60
I believe this. We will send off our little guy secondwind Jul 2019 #14
I don't leave my pets alone with the vet to died lunatica Jul 2019 #15
I held my kitties as they left... TygrBright Jul 2019 #16
I can't imagine not holding them, petting them, telling them I love them catrose Jul 2019 #18
90%?? Are you freaking kidding me? I went through this almost exactly bullwinkle428 Jul 2019 #19
I had to take my family's dog on the "long ride" to the vet FakeNoose Jul 2019 #21
Our vet first gives them a very strong sedative RayOfHope Jul 2019 #22
Yep, my 5 year old, my wife, and I were all with our beloved dog when she was put to sleep. cbdo2007 Jul 2019 #23
Thank you for sharing this !!! It was very powerful. donkeypoofed Jul 2019 #24
Please consider having the vet come to your house. Big Blue Marble Jul 2019 #25
Amen--we had one come out for our Streak Maeve Jul 2019 #30
THIS. +100 Duppers Jul 2019 #67
It was about $200 for the home visit. Big Blue Marble Jul 2019 #90
That's wonderful. Duppers Jul 2019 #94
Good suggestion. My cat is getting on up there, and I've been thinking Hoyt Jul 2019 #80
It is also less stressful for you Big Blue Marble Jul 2019 #100
This depends on the situation. Our oncologist offered that option spooky3 Jul 2019 #102
Yes there are times when home euthanization is not appropriate. Big Blue Marble Jul 2019 #128
My final duty and I do it with deepest love and respect. lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #33
I held my 18 year old cat when it was time tymorial Jul 2019 #36
I love everybody who post on this thread. zonkers Jul 2019 #38
. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2019 #63
2nd that. Duppers Jul 2019 #68
Yes, please. RichardRay Jul 2019 #40
Info on that in this older thread Duppers Jul 2019 #72
There are plenty of reasons people can't or won't "be there" and these kinds of posts are WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #41
they are exercises qazplm135 Jul 2019 #52
Does that make them bad? /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #85
in this case qazplm135 Jul 2019 #114
I have always associated... tonedevil Jul 2019 #120
that's nice qazplm135 Jul 2019 #134
"Virtue singnaling?" hunter Jul 2019 #111
I look askance at that term as well. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #122
agreed Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #119
I've been with every one of my pets when they were euthanized. elocs Jul 2019 #44
I have been beside my horses, my dogs, and cats when their time came. I would never have it any in2herbs Jul 2019 #45
I lost two. Norbert Jul 2019 #46
Are you kidding me?? 90% don't stay? nolabear Jul 2019 #47
I'm dumbfounded by the 90% number too Rorey Jul 2019 #70
Our whole family, including the grandchildren, came to the vet's to say goodbye. pnwmom Jul 2019 #49
Every dog we have lost Kaiserguy Jul 2019 #51
This thread forced me to close my office door to recompose myself... Moostache Jul 2019 #53
I teared up just doing my post, and reading yours did me in. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2019 #57
I wish I could say it gets easier, but it never does... Moostache Jul 2019 #65
We were there for the passing of our beloved labs Zoe, Mocha NRaleighLiberal Jul 2019 #54
The vet could give the pet a tranquilizer, which I have always been told they do first Maraya1969 Jul 2019 #55
I couldn't leave an animal to die alone with strangers The Genealogist Jul 2019 #58
We had to put our cat to sleep at the vet's office. no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #59
It is the bravest, hardest thing. Duppers Jul 2019 #74
Thanks for posting. Our mixed Pomeranian is 14+. He's in fine shape oasis Jul 2019 #62
2 weeks ago, I put down my cat. rainin Jul 2019 #64
I'm so sorry. I know exactly what you mean. Nt spooky3 Jul 2019 #106
My 'almost' 14 yr old West Highland Terrier CDerekGo Jul 2019 #75
I worked in an animal hospital for a while logosoco Jul 2019 #82
I could never not be there. It's hard, but you get to stroke sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #91
if I had been told this barbtries Jul 2019 #95
I should not have read this at work :-( Bradical79 Jul 2019 #97
It's the hardest thing in the world to do, but I'm always with them at the end. Vinca Jul 2019 #98
I was with my cat when I had to have her put down (kidney failure) Roland99 Jul 2019 #99
Our beloved Riley Ginger42 Jul 2019 #101
My Ex and I had to put down our dog. Collimator Jul 2019 #105
Nice story. jeffreyi Jul 2019 #107
I can not remember if I ever left an animal alone. Doreen Jul 2019 #109
As long as God spares me to, I will be with my beloved animals - and family - from beginning to end. colorado_ufo Jul 2019 #115
My mother was unable to stand when she had to have her terrier put Politicub Jul 2019 #117
Decades ago my dad and I were told to leave the room. onlyadream Jul 2019 #123
My dog was old and I was away for a weekend kimbutgar Jul 2019 #126
Sounds like the vets at Hillcrest Vet Hospital need to educate their human clients. SharonClark Jul 2019 #140
Got to say, this brought back some rough memories of last year. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2019 #147
I'm guilty. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #151
I just let my 16 year old kitty, Louis, go this past Saturday. MontanaMama Jul 2019 #152
I'm so sorry. He must have been a very good boy. Nt spooky3 Jul 2019 #160
My little black kitty saw my face talking baby talk to her as she passed CousinIT Jul 2019 #156
So a slightly different perspective. I don't think I will get beat up too bad... GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #161
I love my mother in law but I have never exboyfil Jul 2019 #162
I have always held them and whispered to them SoCalDem Jul 2019 #164
That makes a lot of sense. Tertullian Jul 2019 #166
I can't even imagine doing that to my dog. ooky Jul 2019 #169
My parents put two elderly dogs to sleep... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2019 #170
My vet suggested I leave after the first injection nini Jul 2019 #171
We had a beautiful and loving Turkish Van Niagara Jul 2019 #172
I'm a person who absolutely can not be there. Tracer Jul 2019 #175
Sooner vets will come to your home radical noodle Jul 2019 #176
Wow judgmental as hell Jake Stern Jul 2019 #177
I would never do this! CrispyQ Jul 2019 #179

phylny

(8,818 posts)
1. Our three dogs were put down or died naturally in my arms.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jul 2019

I would have it no other way, even though it’s gut-wrenching.

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
2. I stayed with Boudicca, touching and talking to her until she was gone. And for a while, afterwards
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jul 2019

The vet talked me through the process. It was hard, but I couldn't imagine her not feeling my presence, at the end.

SharonAnn

(14,172 posts)
79. I do the same. Tell them I love them and keep at least one hand on them.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jul 2019

It’s for their comfort, not mine.

calimary

(90,010 posts)
138. We all stayed with Goldie. She laid down against my leg, and went to sleep.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jul 2019


It was so odd. I couldn’t cry. I’d been crying off ‘n’ on for several days beforehand and continuing lo almost two weeks later.

But as it was happening, I was totally dry-eyed. Wasn’t expecting that. She went out so peacefully. I’m glad we could do that for her. I wish we humans could all have it that way too.

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
145. That's how I reacted
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:14 PM
Jul 2019

I was pretty strong until I put the empty carrier into my car. Then the tears started. By the time I got home, I was in full eye flood mode, and stayed like that for days.

CountAllVotes

(22,214 posts)
3. I have never done this
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:36 PM
Jul 2019

Never.

I was there in the beginning and I was there at the end.

May it always be this way for my beloved fur critters!

Being there at the end is so very important for our beloved fur critters!



RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
4. This makes me cry so much
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:36 PM
Jul 2019

We just had to put our dog Jasmine to sleep a few weeks back. The vet asked us if we wanted to be there with her. I couldn't leave her. She was my baby. I wanted to be there for her until she fell asleep. She fell asleep in my arms. It was the hardest thing I ever did, but I could not and I would not leave her alone at that time.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
5. I held my first kitty, looked into her eyes...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jul 2019

and told her I love her. Tough but I owed it to her. The thought of leaving her was repulsive.

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
6. I'm shocked by the percentage being so high
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jul 2019

My wife can’t handle it but I see it as a very solemn responsibility. I get it that it may be too intense for some folks. But I’ll never not be there when the time comes even though it is deeply painful.

spooky3

(38,631 posts)
28. I was too. And sadly, it made me feel a little better because
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:14 PM
Jul 2019

I did stay with my beloved kitty suffering from lymphoma when he was put down, but when the oncologist asked afterward if I wanted to remain a few minutes alone with his lifeless body, I told her no, thanks, that I could barely stand the pain I already was experiencing. I had just assumed that others stayed and I was too weak, but this post suggests otherwise.

Maraya1969

(23,495 posts)
61. You just reminded me of something. I started bringing home my departed pet in a box
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jul 2019

and leaving them outside, (I'm in FL; never had bad weather affect it) with the box open so the others
could see and smell them and know that they had gone before I bury them. I have a pet door so they have all gone out at some point when the deceased one was out there.

I started it after I realized that they would not know what happened to their little brother or sister.

PWPippinesq

(195 posts)
159. I have been with my standard poodles when they have to leave.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:47 PM
Jul 2019

It is hard, but as others have said, we owe it to them, if possible. Unfortunately, our Ally at age 8 was dying, apparently from vaccinosis (over vaccinating) causing immune mediated hemolytic response. Her body was attacking her red blood cells as though they were alien to her system. Within 6 days she was gone. Our vet came to our home one morning to gave her a shot to put her to sleep forever. Sadly, I let the vet take her away with her to have her body cremated. Our other poodle, 15 year old Gabby, didn't know where Ally had gone, though she was there when Ally was put to sleep. She spent the next weeks looking for her sister and, even, taking over her duties. In Ally's place, she went outside before going to bed, checking up and down the driveway to make sure everything was ok, something she had never done before, but took over as a duty from Ally. She also looked for her constantly. These behaviors went on for several months until we got her a new companion, Audrey, a lovely black poodle. Only then could she give up taking on Ally's role. I didn't make the same mistake with Audrey when Gabby died. Again, the vet came to give Gabby a final shot to put her to sleep. Audrey was with us the whole time and I kept Gabby on her bed after she died for a couple of hours before we took her to the crematorium. Audrey was with me when I went back to get Audrey's ashes. She traveled all the way home lying with her chin on the box containing Audrey's ashes. Audrey seemed to understand and accepted the loss of Gabby and settled quickly into our new configuration. We can learn so much from our four legged comapnions.

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
144. You did good.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:14 PM
Jul 2019

You met the obligation as a loving fur parent. That’s all anyone can ask. When I took our cat for his final moments I stayed with him for a few minutes after. It was a brief moment of reflection of how this cat who seemed to hate me for so long ended up so close to me in the end. He always favored my wife. In his final years we finally came to an understanding, or rather after years of me desperately hoping he would like me, he finally did.

I love cats but cats never have loved me much. Probably because I approach them like I would a dog and cats don’t seem to like that very much. Anyway he was s good kitty, and a grouch, which is something I loved about him. I miss him launching himself across the living room to lock his fangs into my bare ankles for reasons we never really could figure out, but make for fun memories of the little shit (said with love and affection).

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
7. Interesting. Our (used to be) vet discouraged owners
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jul 2019

to go in with their pets. But he sent a letter proselytizing his church along with the bill. Bad taste.

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
32. that's because your VET didn't want to deal
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jul 2019

Too much extra trouble (and maybe a little time?) for HIM .. not because that was what was best for you or your pet

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
71. Wow.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jul 2019

No words.

My vet clinic always sends a sweet sympathy card. The first time it really took me by surprise, and I cried a lot all over again. I was so touched by that gesture.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
77. When we had to let our beloved Dulcinea go due to her cancer
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:01 PM
Jul 2019

we stayed with her. After she was gone, our vet hugged us and told us how sorry he was.

When we had composed ourselves enough to leave, we noticed that there was a candle burning on the reception desk and a sign that said (approx): "When this candle is burning a pet owner is saying a final good-bye to a beloved pet. Please speak softly." And I broke down again.

erronis

(23,869 posts)
103. I'll bet that vet is a repuglicon. No feeling, just profits.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jul 2019

I may be wrong, but most people that love animals, love nature, have empathy ---- are not repuglicons.

Maybe I'll make that a litmus test next time I take an animal (or my partner) for their final moments....

radical noodle

(10,595 posts)
178. I once had a vet like that
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jul 2019

She was a terrific vet, but she'd once had an owner try to snatch a cat back at the last moment causing extreme pain for the cat. I can see why she was reluctant after that.

milestogo

(23,073 posts)
9. I don't think this is true.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:41 PM
Jul 2019

First, if you are putting an animal down, the animal doesn't know what is coming next. He does not know whether he is going to be put to sleep or have his teeth cleaned.

Second, if an animal is dying of illness, they will often seek seclusion.

My last dog went down and hid in the basement twice in his life - once when he had bloat - I found him and took him for emergency care - but he was probably in great pain and thought he was dying.

The second time he actually was dying - I brought him up from the basement and petted him until he passed. He was 16.

I doubt that this was written by an actual vet.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
17. exactly
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jul 2019

I was heart broken when I had to put my cat down. In the moment, I couldn't be in the room when it happened. In hindsight wish I was but in the moment it was too much.

When they put them to sleep they knock them out first. My cat was "dying" but she wasn't in the throes of death. She probably could have made it another day or two or slightly longer but I didn't want to put her through that as she was in distress from the lack of ability to breathe thanks to the combination of heart cancer and heart disease filling her with fluid.

She wouldn't have known that this injection of anesthesia was any different than the one she'd gotten the week before, or the week before that.

Maybe an animal that is literally moments from death, but not an animal that isn't quite there yet.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
20. Would you leave a human family member in their final hour.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:01 PM
Jul 2019

THIS certainly is true. Who wants to die alone with strangers? No one including your family member pet.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
26. a pet isn't a human
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:12 PM
Jul 2019

quite a difference between the two. A human knows they are dying, and you can talk and communicate to them. And most humans aren't "put down" or actively killed/euthanized, so we often aren't around family members the moment they die. We often say our goodbyes ahead of time for that very reason. And I certainly didn't leave out of malice, I left out of extreme distress.

So I reject your attempted analogy.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
39. I don't see the difference...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jul 2019

except non-human companions are generally a lot more humane.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
48. the difference is
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jul 2019

the pet doesn't know it's dying. The human does.
The pet doesn't know you "left it" anymore than the other times you "left it" to get anesthesia for a non-lethal purpose.
Should a pet owner be there every single time a pet is anesthetized?

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
76. Your certainty...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:01 PM
Jul 2019

that a non-human companion doesn't know it is dying doesn't square with my experience. That said, my grandmother didn't know who she or anybody else was and I doubt very much if she knew she was dying, but I still stayed camped out and by her bed at the facility for her last days. I know I have talked to and comforted my companions if they had to be anesthetized for any reason. Obviously I'm not going to be in surgery and sometimes medical emergency has to take precedence.
I understand that a lot of people are very upset being in the presence of another animal that is dying. That goes for human animals as well as non-human. If one is unable to hold up they are unable to hold up. My mother's sister was diagnosed with a form of brain cancer. It took her nearly a year for it to consume her. As she got worse and worse my aunt was hoping my mother would come help more. My mother was not able to the depression she was experiencing made her physically ill. My mother has expressed regret, but is still stuck in depression 2 years later. I think the aftermath would be easier for my mother if she had been able to face her fear/depression, but I saw what was happening to her and I don't think she was physically capable.
Long story short version:
I reject the concept of non-human animals not being our equals. I am quite certain that non-human animals have an awareness of our presence and look for our companionship to provide comfort. I can't speak for other human companions of non-human animals, but I am involved in anything like that to the extent I can be so without causing difficulties.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
88. I didn't say ALL animals in every case
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jul 2019

I specifically said these words:

"I said that the pet does not know that they are dying the vast majority of the time."

You must have read those words so I don't really understand the point of your post suggesting that you've have in some handful of times experienced something different.

You can reject the concept all you want, but I reject that if you had to choose a human or a pet to save from death, you would honestly say that choosing either to save is equally valid. Anyone who argues that is either lying, or has misplaced priorities. So no, I don't believe even you truly believe that humans and animals are equals. I certainly think you may try to treat your pets like humans as much as possible, but I'm also sure you treat them differently sometimes simply because they are different.

You don't ask your pet if it wants to go to the vet. You don't let it decide what it's going to eat. You make all sorts of different choices for animals vice humans in how you interact with them...for good reason.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
108. So what percent of non-human animals...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:50 PM
Jul 2019

know they are dying? How do we tell the difference?
You keep bringing up the fire dilemma as if that proves something. Given said fire, would you save gramma or an infant first? Would you save the 1 year old or the 18 month old. If you save the 18 month old does it make the 1 year old somehow lesser?
As far as making health care decisions I don't ask a sick child if they want to go to the doctor and in fact I make many if not all the same decisions I would make for a non-human companion.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
110. silly question
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jul 2019

as to the hypo, I would probably save the child versus an older person, but I most certainly would save the older person vice a kitten.

Pretty easy answer there.

You certainly listen to your child, and you certainly take how they report their feelings into consideration. You can also explain to your child what is going on that you can't do with an animal.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
116. You are absolutely correct...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jul 2019

I have rethought everything about how I have lived these 63 years and now realize that non-human animals lives are worth so much less than human lives. Thanks for showing me the 'facts' regarding human superiority.







qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
129. lol
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jul 2019

I said nothing about "so much less."
I said, not equal.

That you want to over-dramatize and hyperbolize that is on you, not me.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
137. I mean not exactly the same
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jul 2019

lesser and "so much lesser" are two vastly different things.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
153. Animals have been seen going to high ground before a tsunami, human died because
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:54 PM
Jul 2019

they did not sense the big wave coming. What was it that caused the animals to seek high ground? You may say instinct, but what is instinct? An animal that was not born before the last tsunami seeks high ground as the current one makes it's way to the shore, so the response was not learned.

So, to me it would be possible for an animal to know that it is dying and the end for it is near.

I co-owned one per in my life. Me and my bothers were walking beside a road. Our dog loved to chase cars but on that day, it caught up to the car and tried for a front tire. A back tire ran over it. We ran to our dog and tried to comfort it, but blood was coming out of it's mouth and nose. We knew that it was dying and it seemed to have known. So we passed it around and each of us held it as it died. The dog looked at each of us as we held it and did not die until the last kid held it. What was that in your opinion? Did my dog know it was dying or not? For all of my life since that day, to me, our dog seemed to me to have known that it was dying and wanted us to be ok.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
155. sigh
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:59 PM
Jul 2019

I didn't say it "wasn't possible that an animal knows it's dying"

I, in fact, said: "I said that the pet does not know that they are dying the vast majority of the time."

The fact that animals can sense things we can't like atmospheric pressure changes, or sounds that indicate something coming, or various things is science, not mystical.

The dog you speak of may or may not have known it was dying. The fact that it didn't die "until the last kid held it" does not mean that it "held on" for that reason. You are ascribing meaning and intent where none very well may exist. You are placing human emotions and thoughts where those thoughts are in fact not that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
157. I will stay with my memory, what happened was real and me and my
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jul 2019

four brothers talked about it for several years after and I will never forget that day.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
158. well
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:42 PM
Jul 2019

you are free to believe whatever you want to believe. I am not attempting to make you believe otherwise.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
42. Many pets have an extremely close bond with their family members.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jul 2019

I have actually been THERE many times. I totally reject your rejection of my premise.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
50. I said nothing about whether pets and humans have close bonds
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jul 2019

My cat and I were together every day almost for 11 years. I understand close bonds with animals.

I said that the pet does not know that they are dying the vast majority of the time.
They know they don't feel well, but they generally don't know they are dying most of the time, because we USUALLY put a pet down before they are literally moments away from death's door.

Like in my case. Like in many cases.

Attempting to characterize those who choose or can't or unable to be there at that final moment as somehow bad people, or unfeeling or hurting the animal is also an incorrect premise.

This is just an exercise in signalling how great you are, and how sad it is that all humans aren't as great as you are with their pets. So feel free to continue to engage in that if it makes you feel good, but don't expect me to agree with you, or join in.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
69. No one is so great and so wonderful when a pet is dying.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jul 2019

Dogs, cats and other pets have equal standing with human family members and should be treated accordingly.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
73. no, they don't
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jul 2019

a child is not equal to a pet. If a burning building has my child and my pet in it and I can only save one, no human in their right mind has a hard choice to make.

We don't euthanize humans, we do euthanize pets, another difference.

I know specifically that treatment for cancer in humans is very different from cats...the latter isn't really designed to cure because the doses that might do that would cause pain and suffering that humans can bear or decide to bear, and pets cannot.

Finally, even if pets and human family members were the same, people often do not die with family members holding their hands the moment they pass. Loved ones tell them they love them, then there is usually a period of semi consciousness to unconsciousness to death.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
86. lol
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jul 2019

well as long as we have to you determine which of us is human and inhuman.

Clearly a few of you have a real need to exercise your I'm a better human muscles, feel free to continue, but I have no further interest in this particular virtue play.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
131. thanks
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jul 2019

that response tells me how unreasonable you are and why it's a waste of time to further engage with you.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
89. I just don't think anyone can be sure of what they hear or don't hear.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jul 2019

I can't recall that any of my family members have died without someone holding them or their hand. When my husband died (previous to the ass I just divorced), he was in ICU for nine days. I went home every day to shower and change, but other than that I was there with him, holding him and talking to him, around the clock. I look back at that time and honestly don't know how I did it, but I did. The night before he died, in the middle of the night, I asked the nurses what was going on? I had been told there was no hope of him surviving, but a lot of his vitals had actually improved, so I just didn't understand. Those wonderful nurses explained the physiological things going on that I couldn't see. I fell apart. I cried and begged God and cried some more. Then I went into my husband's room and told him it was okay to go, and that he'd be ok and we'd be okay. Almost immediately his numbers started changing. He died in my arms that afternoon. I'm convinced that he heard me telling him it was okay to go.

I've done the "death watch" with other loved ones since then, and because of the experience with my husband, I won't take a chance that a dying person can't hear, and I won't leave them alone.

And of course those of us with human children can't really equate a child with a pet, but that doesn't mean that many of us don't love our pets deeply, and the loss hurts like hell. I know that there are also some folks who just consider a pet a thing. I can't relate to that concept at all.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
96. I've worked in nursing homes
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jul 2019

most of them die alone.

I know that many people die on the operating table, they die in accidents, they die suddenly, they die while the family takes a moment to catch a couple hours of sleep.

It's a well known phenomenon that often the dying will wait until they are alone to die.

That's not an always thing of course, some folks die with loved ones around them.

No one said anything about considering "a pet a thing." I certainly didn't.
I spent 8K bucks trying to save my pet. I cried as a grown man for about three weeks off and on or the whole time I was trying to save her. It was harder than anything I've ever had to do.

But that doesn't mean that my pet was let down or I somehow loved her less because I couldn't be in there when they injected her to put her to sleep, nor does it mean she knew what was going on or that she was dying in that moment.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
118. I apologize
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jul 2019

I didn't mean to sound as if I was implying that you, personally, thought of your pet as a "thing".

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
104. my father died.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jul 2019

he dropped dead of a heart attack in a different state and nobody was with him.
my daughter died. she was run over by a car and left in the street to bleed out and nobody was with her.

i cannot let these facts torment me.

my friend Marcia's mother, with whom she lived at the time, said she was going to take a nap. No biggie. She went into her room and at some point she died. Marcia had no idea her mother was about to die and there was no opportunity to be there. Yet when the paramedics came, they were amazed at the absolutely peaceful look on her face. They had never seen anyone whose passing had been so non-traumatic.

when my mother died, I stayed with her until about 3am. my sister was also there. I had a 5 month old daughter at home who was nursing and was by this time (probably about 10 hours in the hospital by then) both engorged and utterly exhausted. I went home and my sister stayed. At 8:30 she called me to let me know Mom was gone. She was alone in the room with her. i had meant to be but left early. For this I do feel guilt but again, will not be tormented by it. Our 2 brothers had come by much earlier, said their good-byes, and left. I don't know if this makes them feel bad or not. I do know my mother knew each of us well and in spite of a catastrophic stroke, had made it clear that she did not want to be a burden to us.

Within a few years or so I will die. I mostly hope i go peacefully and do not linger and cause my children any more pain than is necessary. i certainly do not want them to berate themselves or be hounded by the thought that they should have been there at the moment i passed, if that's not the way it plays out.

They say the hearing is the last sense to leave. i talked to my mother long after she stopped responding. She knew she was loved.

I could also tell other stories i have heard from friends, who left their loved one to go take a shower and change clothes, and the death occurred while they were gone from the room, even though it wasn't expected to happen imminently. i honestly believe that the loved one chose to take that burden away from the one they were leaving behind. so i don't know. probably never will.

every story is different and none are the same.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
112. I don't know you, and I didn't know your mom
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:59 PM
Jul 2019

But I'm positive that she would rather you be with your baby than at her bedside.

And I am SO sorry about the loss of your daughter.

I just want you to know, I'm in no way saying that someone should ever feel guilty about not being there when a loved one passes away. Every situation is different. All I was saying was that when I could I did, but I'm fully aware that there are many folks who do wait until they're alone to take that last breath. Honestly, I really don't want my family doing the death watch over me.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
113. thanks Rorey.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jul 2019

Interesting spelling of your name, assuming that's what it is. My youngest son is Rory. if he'd been a girl her name was going to be Rory.

I always wanted a Rory. lol

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
124. LOL it's not my name
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jul 2019

Usually when I'm picking a screen name I just keep trying until one isn't taken. It's close to my nickname Rosie. My real name is unique, but it's not Rorey.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
135. that's how i ended up with barbtries
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jul 2019

i must have tried 20 barb screen names and they were all taken. when i typed in barbtries what i was thinking is barb tries every frickin' name including barb. but it worked and i've been using it for close to 20 years now.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
121. and that's a very fair and reasonable way to approach it
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jul 2019

unlike some others in this thread.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
142. I think I better put in my living will
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:12 PM
Jul 2019

I don't want anyone hovering. I've always been very private, especially when I'm not at my best. I always joke that my mom used to send us to our rooms when we were sick, and we really didn't get a lot of coddling, so that's why I'm like that. Of course she did check on us, but we didn't get the feeling that it was okay to feel sorry for ourselves, and I'm pretty sure she didn't want us out in the "general population" spreading our germs.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,953 posts)
146. "Dogs, cats and other pets have equal standing with human family members and should be treated
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jul 2019
accordingly."


Maybe in your family. Not in mine. Both and other models are valid.

ET Awful

(24,788 posts)
92. You do realize this comes off far more as if you're defending your own actions than anything else
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:18 PM
Jul 2019

don't you? As someone who works in animal rescue and has had far more dealing with animals being euthanized than most, I can assure you that they DO know what's going on and that if the people they're used to aren't there, they are more distressed.


You sound far more like you're trying to justify your (perfectly understandable) inability or unwillingness to be there with your pet than it does a legitimate argument for anything else.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
125. you have no idea what is going on in their heads
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

none. You project what you think is going on.
There's no logical reason for a pet to know that THIS time, the shot that knocks them out will be preceded by something that kills them vice the time a few days ago where they woke up after receiving other care.

ET Awful

(24,788 posts)
165. And you know exactly what's going on in their heads?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:00 PM
Jul 2019

Tip: Pets pick up on YOUR emotion. You can keep trying to justify your own action (or inaction), that doesn't make you right.

If you think animals aren't cognizant of the emotions of people around them, you haven't spent much time around animals. But keep on thinking you're right. Just make sure you don't subject any animals to it.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
168. Lol
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 12:28 AM
Jul 2019

Subject any animals to what?

I don't know exactly what is going on in their heads but I'm pretty sure it's not the same as a human.

There's nothing to justify. If the animal is picking up on my emotions and I am not there then how's it know this is the shot that will kill it?

You're all over the place in the righteous indignation you've ginned up trying to make me a monster. It's ridiculous.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,953 posts)
31. People have a wide variety of experiences and relationships with their pets, and shaming them
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jul 2019

about it isn't really helpful.

Who wants to die alone with strangers? No one including your family member pet.


The process of euthanizing a pet means they die in their sleep, which happens all the time to people in extended care facilities or hospitals. It just happens.

milestogo

(23,073 posts)
83. Its a fact that sick and dying animals seek seclusion.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:08 PM
Jul 2019

That doesn't mean that owners should abandon them. But it does mean that animals have different behavior than humans, and there is no benefit for animals in projecting human characteristics onto them.

jb5150

(1,362 posts)
93. There is an evolutionary advantage to this behavior ..
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jul 2019

animals will seek a safe, secluded space because they know they may be too sick or injured to fight off a predator.

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
132. absolutely she did
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jul 2019

I spent a whole day saying goodbye to her. I spent three weeks and a good portion of my savings trying to save her. I slept with her, cuddled her, and held her.

but, somehow, because I didn't spend that last moment with her, I'm a monster to some folks on here.

There were few animals more loved or spoiled than she was (which she totally earned by being an absolutely amazing companion).

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
150. It doesn't matter what they think. There are a lot of people patting themselves
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jul 2019

on the back and creating a mutual admiration society. They are no better than anyone else.

It sounds like your kitty had a very special parent, indeed, and you made lots of happy memories together. That’s what matters.

And you are causing me to remember times with my beautiful silky terrier who is no longer with me. Thank you for that.



qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
154. pets bring a ton of joy
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:54 PM
Jul 2019

and they certainly make life a lot better than it would be without them.

And nothing feels better than when your dog or cat or what have you is snuggled up with you

DeminPennswoods

(17,504 posts)
43. That's what happened with one of our
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:24 PM
Jul 2019

cats. She hid in the basement behind a wicker chair. My folks took her to the vet who then told them she had a huge tumor. She had already lost a lot of weight and was hardly eating. They decided on the spot to have her put down, then brought her back and my dad buried her in the yard. It was a very tough day for them.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
84. "I doubt that this was written by an actual vet."
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:10 PM
Jul 2019

I would agree with you. It's overly emotional. I also find it hard to believe that so many people don't stay with their pets. Just the replies here tell a different story.



japple

(10,459 posts)
127. They know. They know so much more than we give them credit for knowing. If you were
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

there for them in life and gave them a happy existence, they will carry you with them into the hereafter. They are pure, innocent creatures.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
149. Agreed. It's a bullshit story.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jul 2019

Married to a Vet Tech.


I think staying is the right thing to do, generally speaking (And I always do), unless you can't keep your shit together and THAT is causing the animal anxiety.

I do wonder if the drop-off-walk-away nature of a lot of euthanasia causes this though:
https://time.com/5485552/veterinarians-suicide/

klook

(13,600 posts)
174. Agreed.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jul 2019

I’ve been there with two kitties when their time came, and I’m glad to have had the experience, though it’s heartbreaking.

Both times it was at home, with a house call by a regular vet in one case and a visit from a pet euthanasia specialist in the other. I saw exactly what the cats went through. They just thought they were going to sleep, except some strange lady had just given them a shot.

The first time I went through this, before either of these two, I left my kitty buddy — who was very ill and in a lot of difficulty — with the vet. It was really hard, partly because I was going through some other very gut-wrenching personal stuff at the time, and because the kitty died young. I know it was hard on the vet to see me bawling like a baby, too. When I saw him on the street months later, he recognized me and teared up a little.

I refuse to condemn people over their decision of what to do in such a difficult situation. It’s a personal decision.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
10. I watched our first pet pass...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

It was so traumatic to me that I could not watch our second pet pass. I am now so guilt ridden for abandoning pet #2 at its final moments that I have refused to adopt any other shelter animals - knowing I just can’t watch them pass. So you tell me which is worse, not watching my second pet pass or not giving another shelter animal a forever home?

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,953 posts)
37. I am so sorry for your experience and I hope you are able to forgive yourself. You did what
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jul 2019

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you could with the information you had at the time, and I hope it (nor this guilt-trip thread) doesn’t keep you from giving another pet in need a loving home.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Would never do it any other way. The two times I've had to do it, I felt much better for holding
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

them right until the end. If it were me, they'd be there, I think.

It actually goes very peaceful.

The last time, the vet did warn me that sometimes they will pass and their eyes will stay open. So, I avoided looking straight at his eyes once he started to get sleepy.

Bayard

(29,679 posts)
12. Ohhhh.......sniffling here.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

People do things to pets that they wouldn't do to their human family. They want to be with mother, father, child, spouse, as they breathe their last, to comfort them.

I try not to start sobbing until they are gone, so as not to upset them further, so I can tell them I love them, and everything will be alright. Its okay, baby, its okay. Soothing, giving them peace. Stroking their face, looking in their eyes as the light goes out of them. I've had to do it many times over the years, and it never gets any easier.

We owe them that much.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
34. I couldn't help but cry as I held her.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jul 2019

I tried to smoothe her as she laid there, in pain and worried. Why am I here, she thought. She hated vets. But my voice cracked and tears flowed. I so wish I could have kept it together, I tried. I think I made it worse for my sweet 13yo border collie because she was so sensitive and one of those dogs who took responsibility for every emotion in their family. Still, I couldn't have left her. We HAD to be there. I loved that baby with all my heart.

Y'all know i'm crying as I type this.

I drove home so grief stricken that I was in a surreal stupor.

Picked her collar up the other day to see if it'd fit Ogee and I cried.

I'll always remember, always love my Patty girl. And wish I could've been a better mama.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
56. Next time, I'll pay a vet to drive to the house.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jul 2019

Patty girl laid in the back of our car and had to wait for almost 30 mins in the August heat for the vet to come to the parking lot. We kept the motor running & a/c on but it was still too hot for her.

And there's the other issue: folks, do you know which medication your vet is injecting? Do a search for life-ending meds vets use, please.
Some just use drugs that causes an “awake” form of paralysis. Talk with your vet about the meds she/he will use. Thanks.

This link will help explain:
https://www.petmd.com/blogs/fullyvetted/2008/september/killing-me-softly-chemical-drug-euthanasia-pets-101-5780

spooky3

(38,631 posts)
35. I told my most recent lost pet, "I love you to pieces and I am so sorry."
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jul 2019

He had already been through so much fighting lymphoma and it had gotten into his bones, but he still wanted to come home. It was devastating. He was only 11. I hope he had some peace as he passed over.

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
13. When my beardie died five years ago, I flew my middle child down from Iowa to say good bye
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:44 PM
Jul 2019

My middle child was in law school in Iowa and I flew her down. I picked up at the airport and we drove to the vet's office to be there when they gave my dog his shot. My beardie was 15 (which is old for a beardie) and he recognize my daughter and put his head in her lap. It was the right thing to do.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
14. I believe this. We will send off our little guy
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jul 2019

when the time comes, surrounded by his favorite toys etc. At home.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. I don't leave my pets alone with the vet to died
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jul 2019

One died at home from some sort of heart attack but she died in my son’s arms. A few years later, after he died, and it was necessary to put his dog down she died in my arms while I whispered how much I loved her and said every endearing thing I always told her. She went very gently.

TygrBright

(21,361 posts)
16. I held my kitties as they left...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jul 2019

It was incredibly hard, but I'm glad I did.

My darling Tommy had bone cancer and was in terrible pain. He hated the vet, too. But when we got there and I scooped him carefully out of his carrier, and laid him on the pad on the exam table, and put my arms around him, he just relaxed against me. I held him as the needle went in, and as his eyes closed and his breathing stopped. And for a few minutes more, getting the tears out.

My Fisbin didn't have cancer, he was just old, and his kidneys were giving out, and he had some arthritis and inflammatory disease issues. I could tell he was eating the little morsels of food I put in front of him just to please me, and then one day he turned his head away and wouldn't eat. He sipped a little water, and then just lay there quietly for a couple of hours. I moved around the room doing this and that, staying where I could see him and he could see me, and frequently coming to kneel by him and pet him and murmur love to him. And then one time when I did that I could tell he was gone.

It still hurts me that I was gone when my T'chiu died. He was older and had diabetes and kidney issues but he was hanging on gamely and I had a wonderful, knowledgeable cat care pro who stopped in three times a day while I had to be out of town for work. I got a call at my hotel one evening telling me that between the midday and evening visit he'd died, and I just broke down. I hadn't had much choice about being out of town, but I felt just awful about not being there for him.

Be there for them.

They're there for you, so often.

reminiscently,
Bright

catrose

(5,365 posts)
18. I can't imagine not holding them, petting them, telling them I love them
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jul 2019

like I hope someone will do for me

bullwinkle428

(20,662 posts)
19. 90%?? Are you freaking kidding me? I went through this almost exactly
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:01 PM
Jul 2019

a year ago with my cat, who meant the world to me. My girlfriend had joined me at the vet's office for the procedure, and there is not a chance in the world we ever could have left for the room for her final moments.

For those who haven't been through it, they are given a sedative prior to the main euthanasia drug, so they're clearly getting sleepy, but still seem quite aware of your presence, and I couldn't have lived with myself if I wasn't there to hold her and comfort her until the very end, when the vet confirmed that the heart had stopped beating.

FakeNoose

(41,622 posts)
21. I had to take my family's dog on the "long ride" to the vet
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jul 2019

She was a sweet and wonderful pet, but at 14 she had something terminal - either cancer or a large inoperable tumor on her belly. I held her gently while the vet gave her the shot. Nakita knew it was over but she looked straight into my eyes and trusted me.

She would have been terrified if I hadn't stayed there with her. I still tear up every time I think of her.

RayOfHope

(1,829 posts)
22. Our vet first gives them a very strong sedative
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jul 2019

and we hold them during this process, then after they are well sedated he takes them to another room for the final injection. We get to hold them through their last moments of consciousness but don't have to witness the really hard part.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
23. Yep, my 5 year old, my wife, and I were all with our beloved dog when she was put to sleep.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jul 2019

I petted her and looked into her beautiful eyes until she closed them for the last time.

donkeypoofed

(2,188 posts)
24. Thank you for sharing this !!! It was very powerful.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jul 2019

I might have left my cat and dog when their time comes, and now I will be sure to never ever do that. Guess I just needed a poke between the eyes!

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
25. Please consider having the vet come to your house.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jul 2019

This is by far the best solution to such an awful time. I have done this many times and it is the
kindest and most comfortable for your pet and for you and your family. This is truly the way to
give your beloved animal a "good death'"

The are vets who specialize in this kind of hospice care. Check on line for locating them near your
home. There is one organization that has vets all over the country. The one near me has been
wonderful. I have had to say good bye to three pets in the last five years. Each time she was there
for us in the final declining months available 24 hours day for questions and support. Also
to help know when we had reached the end of the line. And she only charged for her services
at the final visit. I am forever grateful for her kindness and compassion as well as the dignified
ending she provided for my precious pets.

Duppers

(28,469 posts)
67. THIS. +100
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jul 2019

Thank you, thank you.

Did it cost much more for the vet to drive out?

Thanks again.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
90. It was about $200 for the home visit.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jul 2019

And that included months and months of kind support and advise at any hour of the day or night.
She is amazing. She made an terrible time bearable for us all.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
80. Good suggestion. My cat is getting on up there, and I've been thinking
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:05 PM
Jul 2019

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of the inevitable.

Went to vet’s office last for last two pets. Thought it was quite peaceful once there, but why put him through that trauma if avoidable. He’s been the best buddy anyone could want.

Thanks.

spooky3

(38,631 posts)
102. This depends on the situation. Our oncologist offered that option
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:40 PM
Jul 2019

While we were in her office getting the bad news. I was concerned that the other two pets at home would react badly to seeing this happen, and that for humans, anticipating the visit would be awful. It was better to do the euthanizing while we were already in the office for treatment. But I can definitely see different circumstances would lead to different reactions.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
128. Yes there are times when home euthanization is not appropriate.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jul 2019

I have been there as well. I have also had animals die naturally at home. Having lost many animals over the years,
I have learned that, when possible, home euthanizations are the kindest and most comfortable for our pets and for ourselves.

I would like to add that our other pets were at peace with the process every time. I believe that is better when they
see what happen to their friend instead of them going to the vet and not coming home. (They will know that is
where you were; they will smell the vet's on you.)

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
36. I held my 18 year old cat when it was time
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jul 2019

It broke me for a long time. Returning home, there was this silence. I swear, I could feel the missing heartbeat and the lack of life. The silence. Ugh, this article just wrecks me.

RichardRay

(2,613 posts)
40. Yes, please.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jul 2019

Eight dogs in my 72 years. All have passed at home. I’m lucky enough to have a place where they’ve been able to rest in a favorite spot, and a vet they know and trust. They all passed in my arms, looking into my eyes, and the vet has permitted me to push the syringe plunger. It’s the last act of love and care I’ve been allowed to give them.

Making that call for my dogs is my duty and my privilege.

As to a ‘natural’ death as opposed to helping them pass: I hope that when my Parkinson’s Disease reaches the stage where I no longer find my life worthwhile that I live someplace where I can make my own choice. If I can’t make that decision, then I beg that my loved ones will be allowed to make the call for me.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,953 posts)
41. There are plenty of reasons people can't or won't "be there" and these kinds of posts are
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jul 2019

weirdly judgmental.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
120. I have always associated...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jul 2019

the use of the term 'Virtue Signaling' with Right-Wing Nut Jobs. I see no reason to change my opinion at this point.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
44. I've been with every one of my pets when they were euthanized.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jul 2019

The first was my cat that I found as a 3 day old kitten when she was 20 years old. It was a hard decision, but it was time. I stopped before I reached the vets office to have a cry, and so I thought I was ready. Well they couldn't find a vein the first time and I was still ok, but after they couldn't find a vein the second time I was in tears.
At this point my cat had been with me for nearly half my life and since she never saw her mother I was the first animal she saw, one that cared for her and fed her.
I'll always be with my pets when their time comes if I can.

in2herbs

(4,388 posts)
45. I have been beside my horses, my dogs, and cats when their time came. I would never have it any
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jul 2019

other way. When an animal means as much to you as anything or anyone else, their allowing you to share their death experience is truly amazing and enlightening.

Norbert

(7,762 posts)
46. I lost two.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jul 2019

One died while rushing her to the vet. She had a heart attack.

The other one we euthanized. We were both there and I comforted her til her dying breath.

It is never pleasant but if it were the other way around they would be there for you without question.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
47. Are you kidding me?? 90% don't stay?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:28 PM
Jul 2019

My god. I can’t imagine. We’ve had many dogs over the years and I cannot imagine not loving those beautiful souls out of this life. Holding them and telling them what good, good dogs they are and how I’m right there, and they’re okay. It’s always hard and I’m not sure I’ve ever “gotten over” a one of them. But I do have that one comfort, of knowing I did the best I could to give back the loyalty they gave to me.

This is so troubling.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
70. I'm dumbfounded by the 90% number too
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jul 2019

When I took my old cat Claws in, the vet asked if I wanted to stay and seemed a little surprised when I said of course. I petted him and loved him and told him thank you for being such a good cat.

I was the one holding each of our three dogs too, while my (then) husband sat and cried. He never has been too good at helping others through difficult times. It was always me. But I considered it to be an honor.

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
49. Our whole family, including the grandchildren, came to the vet's to say goodbye.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jul 2019

Then the youngest went on a walk with their dad, while their mom stayed with the rest of us, the whole family our dog had grown up with. It was heartbreaking but the vet gave us the room for as long as we wanted -- and we were there a couple hours -- before my husband held our dog while the vet gave the injections.

And it wasn't just the dog who needed US. WE all needed to be there with him. It was a comfort to know that he didn't suffer at the moment of death.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
51. Every dog we have lost
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jul 2019

except one who die during cancer sugary had my wife and I there for them when they cross over the rainbow bridge. I would never let them died alone they are family.

Moostache

(11,171 posts)
53. This thread forced me to close my office door to recompose myself...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jul 2019

People are going to think I have lost my mind in here...literally crying uncontrollably.

I just re-lived every passing of pets we have held dear in our family over the last 25 years...

2 cats that had to be put down (agonizing decisions - one happened at home and I was there, one happened at Vet's office when it became obvious nothing more could be done, but I was at home with the younger children who were asleep - and that was a mistake),

3 cats that simply died of natural causes - 2 had apparent heart attacks and were found deceased, 1 died of old age at 19 years old, when we were going to take him to the vet the next day - he died in his bed with our children holding vigil and petting him with me through the last moments...but this was the hardest of them all because we had him for his entire life from kitten to the very end.

It also made me face the inevitable loss of our now 10-year, 65-lb. old dog (who is really starting to have mobility issues with hips and age). We think she may have another year or maybe even two if we're lucky, but a bad winter or a fall might change that in a heartbeat.

For us, our animals are extended parts of the family, and losing any of them leaves a void and a pain as real as if it had been any one of us. I won't pass judgment on anyone's decisions or choices in dealing with life and death, but I will say I can finally open the door again after taking a few minutes to focus on happier memories from each of the lost.

Moostache

(11,171 posts)
65. I wish I could say it gets easier, but it never does...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jul 2019

Even going through these rough memories of the end, I wouldn't trade it for anything...the time spent with our lost pets was as precious to us as holiday get-togethers and dinners or milestone anniversaries...it helps me to focus on those happy memories and let them chase away my sad ones as if they were still here just running around the corner to get their favorite toy mouse!

for all those lost that are being remembered again today...

NRaleighLiberal

(61,857 posts)
54. We were there for the passing of our beloved labs Zoe, Mocha
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jul 2019

and Buddy, all giving us 14 wonderful years...they all were bathed in our tears as they went peacefully on their journeys.

The vet handled each situation with respect, kindness and grace.

Maraya1969

(23,495 posts)
55. The vet could give the pet a tranquilizer, which I have always been told they do first
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jul 2019

but it never seems to go that way in actuality.

I saw the look of fright in my little Emily's eyes the night I rushed her to the emergency vet. The vet told me she didn't think Emily would survive till morning so I picked her up and told the vet to help he go.

I've done this several times since I have always had dogs and sometimes cats. There is nothing to be afraid of. It is sad and horrible but I would never leave them. I think it may even help you with your own grief to be there at the end.

The Genealogist

(4,739 posts)
58. I couldn't leave an animal to die alone with strangers
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jul 2019

This thread is heartbreaking for me, as it brought back the terrible day we had to put down our beloved Standard Poodle, Tony. He wasn't eating, and we took him in to find he had a fast growing cancer. He could have had painful surgery and maybe lived a few, miserable weeks longer. My partner and I were both there when he passed away. There was no way I'd have left that dog, who was nothing but love embodied, to die alone.

no_hypocrisy

(54,903 posts)
59. We had to put our cat to sleep at the vet's office.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:46 PM
Jul 2019

It was the bravest thing I've ever had to do but I insisted that I be allowed to hold her while she slipped away. I knew that even though she received a shot to relax her, she needed to feel the warmth of my body, smell my scent, and hear my voice.

Postscript: The vet wouldn't let me leave her office until I could stop crying for 20 minutes.

oasis

(53,689 posts)
62. Thanks for posting. Our mixed Pomeranian is 14+. He's in fine shape
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jul 2019

for his age, but slowing down. I will heed your advice.

rainin

(3,246 posts)
64. 2 weeks ago, I put down my cat.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 04:49 PM
Jul 2019

12 years we were together. I was the last face she saw. I was loving her and had to ask if she was gone, because she seemed to still be looking right at me. I sobbed right there in the exam room. I don't know how the staff handles this grief day after day. I think my visit was hard for them. My grief was deep.

CDerekGo

(507 posts)
75. My 'almost' 14 yr old West Highland Terrier
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:00 PM
Jul 2019

Woke me up just before 3am, June 25, panting quite loudly. I managed to get him on the bed with me, just in time for him to take three short gasps, kick his right front leg twice, and that was that. I sat with Bentley for quite awhile, petting on my little Co-Pilot. He was only 2 weeks away from his 14th Birthday. It was only when I realized that Bentley had also evacuated his bowels and bladder, that I knew I needed to strip the bedding before I would be able to do anything else until Bentley and I made our final trip to the Vet. Being in a strange town, I had to call local vet to see what door to use, to bring Bentley inside for Cremation Two days later, I retrieved Bentley's ashes, as well as a Paw Print that the Vet had created. It's quite strange not having a Westie in my life. I'm 58, and for the past 29 years, I've had a Westie 'plodding' along next to me. First it was Holly, who I stood right next to while they administered the drug to put her to sleep (almost 15) then Charlie (Rescue who only lasted 3 months) then Bentley. Now retired, it's tough call for me to make for another dog. I'm planning on selling my FL home and moving soon, maybe once relocated, I'll think about another Rescue. But, I'll ALWAYS be there for my next dog, all the way to the end. Because remember, for us, a dog is only part of our lives, for a dog, we're their WHOLE lives.

logosoco

(3,211 posts)
82. I worked in an animal hospital for a while
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:08 PM
Jul 2019

and I find this to be very harshly judgemental and a bit not true. We always gave the owners a choice to be there or not and were very respectful of either choice. I can't say that I really remember any of the ones I held to be that frantic. They were old or sick and they were being held and talked to.

I would not feel comfortable going to a vet that took this stance. They first and foremost should be respectful of their clients. Many people are already in shock because of an emergency or they are so emotionally fraught to have had to come to the choice of putting the animal down. They are not in a place where they need to be feeling they are being judged.

That's my $.02

sinkingfeeling

(57,832 posts)
91. I could never not be there. It's hard, but you get to stroke
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jul 2019

them and whisper, "I love you" one last time.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
95. if I had been told this
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jul 2019

when my cat was dying I would have stayed with her. I was with her until she was unconscious, but declined to remain until her last breath. I feel bad about that now. i can only hope that she had already moved on at the point i left her.

as I petted her away into unconsciousness she purred and purred and I cried and cried. But when they asked me if I wanted to be there for the end, I said no. I was a coward.

my other cat made sure of it himself and died in my arms, very suddenly. But Lola had to be put down.

Ginger42

(59 posts)
101. Our beloved Riley
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jul 2019

really, really hated going to the vet, but loved going for rides. So when the time came (cancer, 13 years old) we drove to the vet's office. Poor boy was worn out and just laid across my lap on his favorite blanket. Our kind vet came out to our truck to give him the injections so he could die on his blanket in my lap instead of having to be carried into a place he was afraid of. It was hell for me but so peaceful for Riley.

Collimator

(2,118 posts)
105. My Ex and I had to put down our dog.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jul 2019

It was the last intimate thing that we did together. It broke my heart, but I am glad that I was there for her, and for him, and for myself.

If my ex-husband had told me about it after the fact, it would have been worse. We had lunch afterwards and I hugged him goodbye and reminded him that I was the only other person who really understood what he was feeling.

We held her and told her over and over that she was a good girl as the vet injected her. The vet had to tell us when she was gone.

After I got back to where I was living, my housemate held me while I wailed like a banshee. Two days later, I was napping in my room and my eyes opened. I was aware of everything in the room around me--including my dog who was lying between my legs with her head on my stomach.

I am a borderline atheist and I try to avoid any supernatural thinking. But no one can tell that she didn't come back to say goodbye to me.

jeffreyi

(2,571 posts)
107. Nice story.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jul 2019

I think they always come back. Has been my experience, anyway. Maybe the grieving brain playing tricks, but one way or another, they come back. And, in my opinion, the least we can do for our four legged friends is to be there for them to the very end. It's just part of the deal.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
109. I can not remember if I ever left an animal alone.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jul 2019

I doubt it and if I did shame on me. The reason I say I do not think so is because there are parts of my life I can not remember due to an accident. I do know my Voodoo was put down without me because she was sick and by the time they were able to get to her she had been without her meds for to long. I was lying in Harborview in a coma. Gee, I have not thought of that for a long time and now I am crying. I am my animals person and security how could I ever knowingly leave them alone in their last moments here?

colorado_ufo

(6,251 posts)
115. As long as God spares me to, I will be with my beloved animals - and family - from beginning to end.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jul 2019

No matter how much the pain, no matter if it costs me my health or my tears.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
117. My mother was unable to stand when she had to have her terrier put
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jul 2019

to sleep because she was doubled over with tears. She loved her dog more than anything but couldn’t bear to see the shot. He went very quickly.

When I read viral posts like this, that cast a blanket judgement across all pet owners, it makes me angry. The reason why it bothers me is that some pet owners will be tormented when they read it because it makes them feel as if they did something wrong. They can not go back in time and undo the moment.

Putting a pet down is heartbreaking. We all approach the ritual in different ways. Because someone wasn’t in the room at the moment of dying does not detract from the beautiful memories of the experiences that dogs and their masters had. And sometimes people aren’t thinking at those final moments. Their mourning is just as valid.

I know everyone’s heart is in the right place, but please think twice about sharing content like this. You may be subjecting people to unnecessary guilt, torment and suffering after an already heartbreaking decision.

onlyadream

(2,248 posts)
123. Decades ago my dad and I were told to leave the room.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jul 2019

This was horrible for us, and our poor dog... my dad couldn’t even drive home (he walked).

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
126. My dog was old and I was away for a weekend
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

When I came home my Dad told me the dog was not doing good. I saw the dog and called the vet to put the dog down. As soon as I put the phone down the dog lifted its paw and died right then and there. It waited for me to come home and die.

One of my cats we put down and my husband was holding it. The other died in my living on the couch where I usually sit. I hear you these animals wanted to be with those they love when they died. For a week after the cat died I swear I felt the cat while I was I the kitchen weaving around my leg like he used to do every night when I was cooking, hoping a piece of food would accidentally drop on the floor.

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
140. Sounds like the vets at Hillcrest Vet Hospital need to educate their human clients.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:11 PM
Jul 2019

That should be part of their job.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,497 posts)
147. Got to say, this brought back some rough memories of last year.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:16 PM
Jul 2019

I was with my dog at the very end. It was both peaceful and yet traumatic all in the same. I don't really like talking about it.

MontanaMama

(24,721 posts)
152. I just let my 16 year old kitty, Louis, go this past Saturday.
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jul 2019

He was dying of renal failure and was clearly in distress. I didn’t think he could make it until Monday. We went to emergency vet and the on call dr. gave Louis a sedative and then the med that would stop his heart. I held Louis close to my chest the whole time. I would never let one of my beloveds take their last breath alone. It is my duty and my privilege as their companion to be there...as hard as it is.

RIP dear Louis.

CousinIT

(12,533 posts)
156. My little black kitty saw my face talking baby talk to her as she passed
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 07:04 PM
Jul 2019

I did not leave her alone. It broke my heart but I couldn't leave her there alone. I knelt down by the table where she was laying sedated in her soft bed from home and made sure she could see my face as I told her it's OK -- and to just to go sleep with me like she always does. And she did with me right there with her.

I have her ashes by my bed and miss her every day even though this has been years ago now.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
161. So a slightly different perspective. I don't think I will get beat up too bad...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jul 2019

So I was raised by families from Agricultural and farming backgrounds and spent much of my time on farms. Just never saw pets as family members, probably because so many animals were destined for death, as cruel as it sounds. Pets generally served a purpose like hunting, herding cattle or killing rats.

But, one iron clad law was that it was a sin to allow animals to suffer. Ever. Way too many family members have suffered and died from cancer, most likely because of the chemicals used on the farms. But they knew the score, accepted or not pain medication and generally made the most of their dying days. Animals don’t have that luxury. They are just scared. Anyway, in my mind a person that allows an animal to suffer until the end is doing it for themselves, not the poor animal.

So I am not real emotional about pet deaths. I am pragmatic enough to admit we have them for our benefit.

I totally understand those that see their pets as family members and sympathize 100%. No criticism at all. Most of my good Frodo. Just not the way I am.

That said, the idea of taking my wife’s cats to the vet to be put down is very distasteful me. They hate going anyway and remember, I think allowing animals to suffer is a sin. Having a stranger come in and poke them with a needle would be better, but they would still be terrified. Not doing that.

My solution? Several years ago I had a shoulder injury. Nothing too bad but when I filled the script the doctor gave me one of the powerful painkillers that are killing too many Americans. No way I’m taking that for a shoulder. But I knew then what I was going to do.

When our 18 year old cat is starting to suffer, and it not to far off now, she is quietly going to get one of those pills. Then the few others get taken back to the doctor(never flush them. The drug resides in the sewage). And if I did not have those pills I know vets who would give me a loaded syringe to do it myself. God knows I’ve given enough animals shots. It’s would not be easy, but taking care of animals is a big responsibility.

I know my experience and background might be an outlier to many on DU. But we all handle these things differently. I won’t criticize those who can not stand to be there. And I fully understand not many could do it themselves. I just think it is the most kind way.

Anyway, a rural guys(raised anyway) perspective.

And to the article. I can’t see not being there. It seems like the responsible thing to do. But I’m not judging.






exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
162. I love my mother in law but I have never
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 08:26 PM
Jul 2019

gotten around her dropping her Huskie/Lab mix at the vet to be put to sleep without telling anyone. My girls grew up with that dog, and she was the best dog around them. She would go everywhere with us on our walks (I would strap her leash to the handle of my double walking stroller). I would have been honored to be with her at the end even if my in-laws were not.

I was with my three pets (Beagle and two cats) when they died. The cat which was very close to me actually died in my wife's arms on the way to the vet as I was driving. It had gotten sick for the last time while I was on a business trip, and I honestly felt that it waited for me. I loved that cat.

I will be with my English Shepard and Aussie/Sheltie mix when it is time. The English Shepard is 14, and I don't know how much time I have with him. He is my constant companion at home. He is still a great walker though even though not nearly as far as he used to go.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
164. I have always held them and whispered to them
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 09:32 PM
Jul 2019

Skunkie had congestive heart failure and they hospitalized him. He was so scared. I visited him daily, but at day 4, the vet said it's time. I held him over my shoulder like he loved to be held. The vet, used the IV port and as sick as he was Skunkie was purring in my arms until he wasn't.. He was 15, and was unable to walk even a few feet without having to stop & rest. I had to hold his head up for him to get a drink, and he lost all interest in food, so we knew it was time.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
170. My parents put two elderly dogs to sleep...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:13 AM
Jul 2019

... when I lived with them long ago, and the vet asked us to leave before giving them the injections. I wish that I would've stuck with them to the end. Both of them looked at me with "dog smiles" when I left, after I cried and said goodbye to them.

What was so interesting to me was that they both seemed to know that their suffering was about to end. My impression was that they were very relieved to be there, like they were thinking, "Thank God, I'm about to die!" Yet both dogs never really liked the vet's office during previous visits.

Edit: I just want to clarify that the two dogs were put to sleep at different periods of my childhood. It wasn't like we took the two dogs to a "two for the price of one lethal injection sale" at the vet's office or something.

nini

(16,830 posts)
171. My vet suggested I leave after the first injection
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:15 AM
Jul 2019

That one put my cat under. The second one was the one that put him to sleep for good. He said it is rare but sometimes there can be a reaction that is hard to watch. He said he didn't want my last memory of him to be worse than it had to be.

I left the room with him and the assistant talking to him and petting him. The last time my cat looked at me it was peaceful but tough.

This doctor was an amazing loving doctor.

Niagara

(11,849 posts)
172. We had a beautiful and loving Turkish Van
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 02:30 AM
Jul 2019

Her personality changed overnight. She would avoid interaction, growl when touched and would run away from her human family. There were days were she was her loving self and there were days that she acted like a total stranger.

She was diagnosed with Carcinoma and it had already spread to her organs. The vet explained that her quality of life would be awful and the dreaded appointment was scheduled.

I paid in advance for the procedure so that I wouldn't have to deal with it the day of the appointment. We were all in the room with her and she collapsed fairly quickly. We wrapped her in a baby blanket and took her home to bury her.

I had nightmares for months that I was the one that injected her and not the vet. One night I had another dream where I was in an abandoned house where she was waiting for me. In this dream she laid down on my chest and I was petting her. After this dream, the nightmares stopped.



R.I.P. my beautiful lovebucket

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
175. I'm a person who absolutely can not be there.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

My sweet 6 year old pup was dying of cancer (so effing young!!!) and it was time.

My daughter drove and I sat in the back seat holding and petting my darling girl so she wouldn't fall.

But at the vet's, after giving her some final, tearful strokes, I had to leave the room. I just couldn't stay.

My daughter stayed with her until the end.


radical noodle

(10,595 posts)
176. Sooner vets will come to your home
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jul 2019

So the animal doesn't have to be in a scary place. We did that with our cat.

Jake Stern

(3,146 posts)
177. Wow judgmental as hell
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jul 2019

I was with my beloved cat Duke when he passed but not everybody has it in them to stay in the room when it happens and they shouldn't be shamed for it.

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