CNN panel says this is a win for Trump

[budkin]

Because Mueller didn't attack and didn't recommend impeachment himself. They say Trump and his supporters are pleased as punch post testimony. I mean FOR REAL??

I shouldn't have expected anything else.

[uponit7771]

1. Only if they're looking for fireworks, getting the information to the people is a go.

[msongs]

2. and how will trump suffer consequences from this exactly? nt

[Iliyah]

3. Talking points from the RWers . .

[kentuck]

4. The media is so easily manipulated.

It happened with MSNBC also.

They were more into "optics" than the facts that were presented.

[0rganism]

20. they're not entirely wrong

"optics" stomped facts in terms of political appeal a long time ago

[Glimmer of Hope]

5. So ridiculous.

[OliverQ]

6. CNN wants Trump to win again.

[bullwinkle428]

11. This times a thousand. They will not let go of these ratings.

[maryellen99]

23. They want to cover the panic prepping at Walmart

When trump starts WW3/Nuclear War. Like the panic grocery store scene in The Day After.

[beachbum bob]

7. Lol, wasn't Muellers task. His report gave Pelosi plenty to do it, its

her job not Muellers.

[Ponietz]

8. Corporate profit motive and right-wing intimidation...Voila

[EveHammond13]

9. and that is the reason CNN lives in the ratings toilet

[NRaleighLiberal]

10. It's why I turned it all off 10 years ago. It's not news - it is entertainment. To sell ads. PERIOD.

[Hoyt]

12. I was quite pessimistic going into the hearing, but I thought Democrats were outstanding.

Mueller's report pretty much let trump and the campaign off the hook for conspiracy/cooperation/collusion with Russians.

However, the Hearing made it clear -- with Mueller's agreement -- that trump and the campaign were unethical, immoral, and very possibly criminal.

It was already clear that Mueller didn't let trump off hook for Obstruction, but the Hearing amplified that.

Perhaps better, Mueller made it clear the Ruskies are still doing this chit and trump is doing nothing about it, even joking about it.

I doubt many more people will scream for impeachment, but I was impressed, particularly with Schiff's opening and closing, and the general preparedness of Democrats.

[Iliyah]

14. K & R

[bluestarone]

24. KICK

AGREE with your thoughts here!

[gateley]

13. They're right.

No matter what Mueller would have said, no matter what new stuff would have come out, it wouldn't change anything.

Everybody knows the truth, but some will continue to lie to themselves (and others).

Nothing will bring this guy down except for us getting a Dem in the WH in 2020.

[LiberalFighter]

15. Who was it on CNN?

[budkin]

19. It was a pretty sizable panel, like 10 people

John King, Gloria Borger, Jake Tapper, Jeffrey Toobin, John Dean, can't remember the others offhand.

[Captain Stern]

16. I think CNN is right.

Years, and years from now, this won't be a 'win' for trump.

But, as far as today goes...yeah, it's a 'win' for him.

Nothing came out in the testimony that wasn't already in the report. It's not going to cause impeachment proceedings to happen. It's not really going to cause anything to happen.......except for some people to think Democrats are beating a dead horse.

This was a bad idea.

[Iliyah]

18. It was not a win for t-rump, not by a long shot.

My opinion.

[Captain Stern]

21. Ok...let's see how it plays out.

I think that a week from now, two weeks from now, three weeks from now, public polling will show that Mueller's testimony before congress made absolutely no difference at all (unless it actually garnered more support for trump).

I think in the long run, history will tell a different story. But as for now...this is a win for trump

[dawg day]

28. I don't think it's a win for Trump--

Nothing was actually positive for him at all. There were a lot of negatives, but nothing that said, "Trump is good" in any way.
What soundbite are they going to use?
Because it's all in the bites, as we know.

[Captain Stern]

29. trump didn't need a positive soundbite from this.

trump didn't instigate the hearing, he didn't demand it, he was pretty much just playing defense.

If nothing that comes out of this catches on with the public, that's a 'win' for him.

He can just say 'see, I told you so',

[ecstatic]

17. The media, FBI, etc. defers to the loudest, most aggressive side,

which in America is always repugs. Repugs have no problem pushing forward their narrative and shaping public opinion, even when their arguments are based on treason, lies and spin. For some reason, elected democrats are unable to coordinate and consistently promote our talking points, even though the truth is on our side.

Second, you have democratic leaning pundits who are frustrated with what they see (or don't see), but instead of doing their jobs and presenting the public with the full information, they're airing their personal grievances with democrats live on air, which feeds into the cycle of continuous bad coverage for us.

To avoid getting even more upset, I tuned out of the hearing a couple hours ago. It's just not worth the headache. The ball is once again in Nancy's court. None of today's drama was required to start the impeachment inquiry and I hate that democrats spent the past couple years waiting for Mueller, and were STILL waiting for Mueller even after the report. The report is done. The testimony is nearly done. The information is available. Time to act.

[kentuck]

22. A win for Trump is a loss for America.

This is not a horse race or reality TV...

[blue neen]

25. Take a look at the Washington Post. That's not what they're saying.

"The Two Big Mueller Exchanges that Capture the Russia Scandal".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/24/two-big-mueller-exchanges-that-capture-russia-scandal/?utm_term=.c7b1f000f3a0

It's a good article. You should read it.

[dawg day]

26. No, the soundbites will ALL BE: "No exoneration. Unpatriotic. Crime. Blackmail."

Also: FBI investigation ongoing!

[mcar]

27. I didn't see that

And I was watching.

[ChubbyStar]

30. Pleased as punch? Did they have W on the panel?

Sounds like CNN has been asleep at the wheel for 15 years.

[budkin]

32. That was my wording, sorry

They didn't use that expression, but they were saying that Trump went from being agitated this morning to relaxed and confident once the R's started grilling Mueller and he "stumbled" through his responses and seemed unsure...

[MuseRider]

31. OK, I had to watch this delayed

but I have not heard that at all.

[MoonRiver]

33. It wasn't a win for Idiot.

Mueller once again did not exonerate him and stated the fool could be indicted once he leaves office. Lots of other negative stuff came out also.

[Doodley]

34. A win for Trump is always a loss for America.