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(1,596 posts)triron
(22,023 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)I guess I was wrong.
stopdiggin
(11,372 posts)So no one on this string is persuaded that the inquiry is already underway? All over the news over the weekend. I thought this was pretty powerful, groundbreaking stuff. And a heck of a maneuver from House leadership! Nobody else?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/opinion/trump-impeachment.html
Is a headcount really where the action is?
Celerity
(43,545 posts)an enquiry, any hopes for actual impeachment proceedings are flushed down the loo.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)about a month ago there were only about 30 Democrats calling for impeachment or an impeachment inquiry. The momentum for impeachment is clearly building. I doubt an inquiry would start that didn't end in impeachment unless we plan on running it until after the election.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The Judiciary Committee is conducting an investigation to determine whether to recommend Articles of Impeachment. Their work has been ratified by the full House, although that's not necessary.
Why do you think this isn't an impeachment proceeding"? What is your definition of "impeachent proceeding"?
Celerity
(43,545 posts)self-evident by its very definition and title. It is an investigation, not a summation of evidence that leads to an up or down vote for impeachment.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The judiciary committee conducts the ienvestigation and based on that investigation determines whether to recommend articles of impeachment. If so, the committee drafts one or more articles that are then sent to the floor to be voted on by the full House. If the house votes to approve the articles of impeachment, the president is immediately, by operation of the vote, impeached
So, if by "impeachment proceeding," you mean the vote by the full House on the Articles of Impeachment, you're right - impeachment proceedings have not yet begun. But under normal practice and parlance, impeachment proceedings aren't just the final vote, but the entire process leading up to impeachment and an investigation is the necessary first step in the process that ends in a vote on articles of impeachment. The impeachment investigation has begun and therefore, even if it:s not going as quickly as you like, the process is underway.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)everywhere a Dem Dem come out and proclaim impeachment. Impeachment is there, yet it's not.
It's a slow burn and always looming. Then the hammer is going to drop right on dotard donnie's empty fucking head.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)an impeachment inquiry it becomes the responsibility of house leadership to get the rest of the votes. There probably is only about 30 or 40 that really dread making a decision on this. Getting pretty close to the time when Pelosi needs to do some of that arm twisting that others on this board have wrongly told us she cannot do. After more than half of Democrats have publicly called for an impeachment inquiry pulling back from it would be a huge embarrassment.
triron
(22,023 posts)malaise
(269,187 posts)Watch the ride
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)0 - 60 in... well, when is the next downhill?
malaise
(269,187 posts)judgement on the streets. These days kids are given cars they cannot control.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Say, M, this is a pretty good analogy. The old folks want to take it slow and cautiously. The young folks want to zip ahead.
malaise
(269,187 posts)school. One Friday night there was this party. Older cuz drove the 30 year old VW Bug with his brother and two friends. Two of their classmates were given the family's latest car - a Toyota Crown (it was hot in those days). These two kids were their parents only children (a boy and a girl) - both died that night in a horrific crash as they came off a hill - speed and a road they didn't know did them in. The mother never recovered. My two cousins thanked their dad that night as the family huddled together in grief.
I'm for teenagers driving old cars until they really now how to drive and understand the meaning of judgement.
triron
(22,023 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)I want to see if my congressman changed his mind.