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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:34 AM

Anyone watching Morning Joe? Did you see it?

I just saw the commercial hyping how terrified we should all be at the thought of Medicare For All. Loads of bullshit. I guess every other first-world nation can manage to take care of their people in a reasonable manner but the good ole USA just isn't bright enough. Because it appears the rubes in this country prefer their bullshit spoonfed.

Of course, being the curious sort, I decided to see who was running this pantload of a commercial. One Nation America. Sounds nice, they have a flashy site with a lot of reasonable sounding moderate bullshit, invoking the founding fathers' ideals. Let's start with their "Leadership Team"...

Bobby Burchfield
Chairman

Bobby R. Burchfield is a partner at King & Spalding’s Washington, D.C., office. There is a lot of stuff here about how he's never lost a case and worked for HW Bush and what a wonderfully accomplished person he is. Knowing human nature and Republicans in general, I know this is a complete whitewashing so off to searching I go. ....I find out Bobby R. Burchfield, who was retained in January 2017 as an ethics advisory for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust. Trump and ethics together is a fucking joke for starters. In March of this year, he filed an amicus brief on behalf of U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit against CREW. He is also the douche who said: “The renting of a hotel room from one of the Trump businesses is not correlated to President Trump’s performance of the duties of the Office of President.” This is also the same guy whose wife got caught banging an inmate in a car in the parking lot of the prison.

Sally Vastola
Secretary, Board Member

Sally Vastola is a member of Holland & Knight’s Government Relations & Public Policy Practice. She served as executive director of the National Republican Congressional Committee and a longtime aide to New York Republican Representative Thomas Reynolds. She also served as Executive Director and Chief Operating Officer of the National Republican Congressional Committee managing the organization’s strategy, budget and daily operations. That alone is damning in my book considering the GOP has done everything it can to keep health care out of reach for millions of Americans.

Law served as chief legal officer and general counsel of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. In that role, Law ensured legal compliance for the Chamber’s multimillion-dollar political program, and personally created and directed the Chamber’s successful grassroots advocacy campaign against the Employee Free Choice Act.

Prior to his stint at the U.S. Chamber, Law was deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Labor under President George W. Bush.

On Capitol Hill, Law served as executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee for both the 1998 and 2000 election cycles. Law was the manager of Senator Mitch McConnell’s first reelection campaign in 1990, and served as McConnell’s chief of staff from 1991 to 1997.

Another Republican douche.

Steven Duffield
Vice President for Policy

Served on Capitol Hill includes service to Sen. Jon Kyl in the Senate Republican Policy Committee and the Senate Republican Conference, where he was policy director and chief counsel. Steven managed those leadership offices’ policy functions and advised on legislative strategy, coalition building, and message development.

After his service in the Senate, Steven served as executive director of the Republican Platform Committee where he managed the drafting and adoption of the national party’s official policy platform in 2008.

And another Republican douche.

Republicans have been working to destroy our right to use our taxes for the benefit of all in favor of the rich and powerful. The thumb that punches us down has become the weight of a whole Party as they seek to destroy the last protections for the planet, ourselves, our children, and every other policy that actually benefits all of us in favor of policy that favors the few.

In this election season please do your homework. Think about what you are seeing, reading, and hearing. Realize that emotional response was triggered for a reason that may be hidden from full view. FOLLOW THE MONEY.

Here's the ad. Just scroll down a bit...

[link:https://www.onenationamerica.org/one-nation-launches-new-ad-to-stop-medicare-for-none/|

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Reply Anyone watching Morning Joe? Did you see it? (Original post)
airmid Jul 2019 OP
stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #1
watoos Jul 2019 #5
olegramps Jul 2019 #23
SharonAnn Jul 2019 #33
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #34
Progressive dog Jul 2019 #32
watoos Jul 2019 #2
mitch96 Jul 2019 #17
dubyadiprecession Jul 2019 #30
malaise Jul 2019 #3
klook Jul 2019 #27
malaise Jul 2019 #29
DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #4
ashredux Jul 2019 #7
TexasBushwhacker Jul 2019 #37
DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #38
TexasBushwhacker Jul 2019 #39
BSdetect Jul 2019 #6
Liberal In Texas Jul 2019 #8
Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #9
airmid Jul 2019 #10
Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #12
airmid Jul 2019 #13
Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #15
airmid Jul 2019 #20
dawn5651 Jul 2019 #11
wysimdnwyg Jul 2019 #14
crazytown Jul 2019 #16
ooky Jul 2019 #19
zentrum Jul 2019 #18
certainot Jul 2019 #21
ooky Jul 2019 #22
mitch96 Jul 2019 #35
calimary Jul 2019 #24
MontanaMama Jul 2019 #25
Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #26
underpants Jul 2019 #28
sagesnow Jul 2019 #31
Vinca Jul 2019 #36

Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:43 AM

1. Medicare For All is Loads of bullshit !

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:57 AM

5. Not according to me, but

 

Warren said it last night, that is a Republican talking point. and here I sit on the edge of the cliff waiting to be dashed on the rocks.

What amuses me is the number of people who believe that our most expensive health care system in the world, by far, that doesn't give us the best results, our life expectancy in the US has been dropping for the past 3 years is the way to go. Think about that. The richest nation on earth is one of the only industrialized nations whose life expectancy is falling.

It was a mistake for Dems to change the name from single payer to Medicare for all because basically no candidate is proposing Medicare for all.

I live in Pa. and a few years ago Highmark and UPMC were feuding. A lot of people in Pa. have Highmark insurance and they couldn't go to UPMC in network. I am on Medicare and I could go to UPMC or any other hospital in Pittsburgh.

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:06 AM

23. I believe that the problem is a little more complex.

There is a basic reality that we have to acknowledge. There are literally millions who are covered by the employer's plans that are more comprehensive than Medicare. What can convince them to change to a lesser comprehensive plan? Also isn't a rather ridiculous strategy to say we are going to put the insurance companies out of business and throw thousands out of work. The major push for this Medicare for All has been Sanders. Well, lets consider what Sanders has proposed and what he has accomplished. His grandiose proposals are met with the reality that he has been a total failure to pass any constructive legislation. His track record is two post offices named and a shoe-in Vet bill. I also am not too impressed by his part time convenient Democratic Party membership. I support Democrats that believe in the Democratic Party platform that has to have full time support to have any hope of accomplishing just treatment of the working class. Yes, I know that he joins the Democrats in legislation. How convenient. I what someone who represents me to support our goals 24/7.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:32 PM

33. More comprehensive than Medicare? I haven't experienced anything like that.

Insurance companies may pay more for some services than Medicare does. But my neighbor, chief of radiology at a big hospital, said he never thought he'd see the day when he preferred Medicare coverage than private insurance coverage for his patients. With Medicare pre-approval, he gets paid for what he does. With pre-approval from private insurance they will still often deny payments and he and his staff have to spend lots of time contacting the companies, following up, re-documenting, etc. just to get paid. He'd rather be dealing with Medicare.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:15 PM

34. "employer's plans" is still health care for profit, aka, deny and die for profit

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:16 PM

32. Medicare for All is a magic solution to buy votes

Those 150 million people that already have employer provided health insurance will pay higher taxes to pay for health care for others. That is a sure loser in the next election. Employees of the health insurance industry will be out of work; doctors, nurses, and other health care workers will become government employees. The huge investments in hospitals and medical facilities will be seized by the government without compensation.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:43 AM

2. Yeah, WTF,

 

the commercial ran during the debates.

I wonder why this one nation group didn't post an ad for the Republicans health care plan. Don't get sick, if you do get sick, die quickly, remember Alan Grayson?

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Response to watoos (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:55 AM

17. "Yeah, WTF," Like NewsMax running commercials during Rachel....... wtf?

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:28 AM

30. Advice to MSNBC...

Don’t run commercials for Newsmax! It’s stupid to lose some of your viewers, by letting your competition run commercials on your network!

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:45 AM

3. I turned off Morning Joe Scum very early

It was unbearable

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:34 AM

27. Me too, in spring of 2016. (nt)

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Response to klook (Reply #27)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:44 AM

29. I meant early this morning

but you are clearly the wiser of the two of us.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:46 AM

4. Plenty of businesses are making lots of money off

the current private insurance set up. That's why they want to keep it. No more complicated than that.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:03 AM

7. Nail Hit Perfectly on Head

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:03 PM

37. My guess is there will be Medicare Advantage plans

run by private insurance companies just like there are for current Medicare recipients. I have a Medicare Advantage plan run by United Healthcare.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #37)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:12 PM

38. Medicare + supplement beats

Medicare Advantage. My parent switched last year and it's so much better for Medicare to be the primary payer with the supplement picking up whatever isn't covered (or accepted by the provider). Under Medicare Advantage, my parent had co-pays for specialists. The supplement has a lower co-pay, but the doctors have all accepted Medicare reimbursement and have not asked for a co-pay. And the supplement is cheaper, too, even with the best Rx coverage included.

If you haven't read through your annual Medicare booklet, it is amazing what Medicare covers. A medicare advantage plan just puts a gatekeeper between you and your doctor(s).

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #38)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:16 PM

39. I have Medicare because I'm disabled

You have to be 65 to buy a Medicare supplement plan.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:02 AM

6. Thanks for the details re the idiots behind this crap.

We are confronted by these greedy liars at every level. They are determined to rip off anyone and everyone.

Their mantra is "survival of the fittest" though they actually have no idea what that really means.

I have met this type in person and they are ingrained with greed and fear of someone eating their lunch.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:04 AM

8. lobbyists...making their money from the fat cats who are raking in billions

overcharging for insurance and healthcare.


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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:17 AM

9. So those names are mostly lawyers and politicians but who is the money bags?

Source watch says it is a dark money group run by KKKarl Rove and it has fused with Moscow Mitch's Senate Leadership fund.

So you can safely say it's Russian money funding it. Just another Putin corrupted infiltration into our election.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:35 AM

10. I haven't found the money source yet . I got sidetracked by more Trump nonsense. If

someone finds out, please post here. Thanks!

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Response to airmid (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:49 AM

12. I just told you but here is a link.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:51 AM

13. Thank you millions! I love having a source link when asked.

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Response to airmid (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:16 AM

15. Well normally I do include a link but I'm on my cheapo tablet

And it is a bear to cut and paste on it.

But for you, I went to the extra effort.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:03 AM

20. I appreciate that greatly.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:41 AM

11. medicare for all

my favourite part is where no one in canada can get in the hospital when they need to....news to me and i live in a system that has medicare for all...and i am waiting now for the attack on the harmful drugs from here.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:15 AM

14. We're getting that on local ads right now

Our mayoral election is tomorrow, and FreedomWorks is running ads during the local news about MFA and to not elect a mayor who is in favor of it. WTF? What does a mayoral election have anything to do with MFA?


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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:57 AM

18. Thanks for your research.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:05 AM

21. i remeber seeing the ad and thinking of it as a summary of 20 years of talk radio bullshit

and if they were going to pay $1000/hr for a radio infomercial 1200 radio stations x 15 hrs/day would be worth nearly $5BIL/year and while the anti health care programming is just a part, it's been a major part and becomes all out on radio when it's time to keep senators and reps in line, and it generally works to elect more anti-reform pro-pharma candidates

it is important to get informed but except in big blue cities and college towns that other messaging is dominant, especially in about 40 states with 80 senators. dems pushing messaging have always been disappointed and it's because of the talk radio advantage - the only truly unique messaging advantage the cons have.

and that's because they can keep it a monopoly - merely because liberals ignore it and blame the decoy fox

but AI now makes it inevitable that talk radio will finally be digitized (how to) and available to read and analyze. when that happens the ad industry will have to start applying market demand and asking clients if they really want to support trump, global warming, kids in cages, and racism - instead of bundling them on at discounts. most of those advertisers will show very soft support for RW radio when contacted.

any protesting and boycotting of rw radio or the 88 + universities that broadcast sports on 260+ limbaugh stations will accelerate that process and advertisers will dump rw radio like stoprush x 100.

then americans can have fact based national discussions about issues like health care without them being distorted by a few think tank liars feeding a few hundred professional liars on 1500 think tank-coordinated radio stations.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:05 AM

22. I saw an ad of fascist Savannah Guthrie this morning on CNN asking dems to raise their hands

if they would give health care to illegals. Of course, we knew it was coming.

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Response to ooky (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:55 PM

35. "asking dems to raise their hands"

She should ask Insurance companies if they would accept money to insure undocumented people... HA... as long as they can make obscene profits they don't care...
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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:07 AM

24. Good research. Good to know. Thanks, airmid.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:22 AM

25. I didn't see it

because I can’t watch MJ...they are all tools. However, I HAVE seen al kinds of rwnj funded political ads all over MSNBC for weeks. The anti-choice ads are particularly disturbing. Time to stop watching all of it I think. Rachel and Lawrence and others have podcasts of their programs that are commercial free for the most part.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:28 AM

26. Well done, airmid. Great reporting. n/t

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #26)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:35 AM

28. I agree. Bookmarking and kicked for the excellent research

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:52 AM

31. Health Industry Plutocrats are getting really nervous.

Medicare for US citizens would seriously cut into their mega profit margins.

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Response to airmid (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:21 PM

36. I've seen that one.If anyone stops and thinks about it for 2 seconds they'll realize how dumb it is.

For example the tired meme that you won't be able to keep your doctor. So the doctor is going to dump you for someone who has the same coverage you do? Or the one that hospitals will close. Actually, maybe hospitals will thrive because they'll be getting paid for a whole lot of care they write off now. I also love "too expensive" as if what exists now is affordable. That said, I'm thinking the way to transition is to keep Obamacare, open a Medicare public option, and let the people decide. I'm 100% certain it will rapidly be the most popular option. Maybe employers would wise up and say they'll increase everyone's pay by a percentage if they don't have to foot the bill for health insurance.

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