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[thewhollytoast]

1. Thank you for your time.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. She'd be higher if I could watch her on line

as I used to be able to. These days MSNBC seems to have a pay wall. Sigh.

I am someone without a regular TV. I can watch almost everything I want online. I used to be able to watch Rachel an hour or so after her show aired, but sometime in the recent past that changed. Too bad.

[OnDoutside]

3. What do is ....

You'll usually get 80% on YouTube, by putting in Rachel Maddow full, And filtering by today's date. That should usually get you about 40 mins. For the last 5 minutes, her podcast of the entire show can be downloaded for free on Stitcher.com

However, I agree with you, about access to her shows. MSNBC are either incompetent or deliberate in not repeating her shows. Brian Williams is repeated twice during the night ffs ! Actually the second one was when Rachel's show was repeated.

[snowybirdie]

34. I watch her

Through my fire stick, on my Roku, listen on a podcast on my Ipad and listen on tune in radio on an app. No pay wall. Check it out. (I walk my dog a lot, lol)

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

38. I'm under the impression you need to own an actual

TV to use Roku. I don't have an actual TV. I have a computer.

I do get to watch almost everything I want over the internet, and get along just fine without the things I can't watch.

Even back when I could watch Rachel a couple of hours after her show was broadcast, I often got quite impatient because of the way she repeated herself, cramming three or four pieces of information into 30 minutes of talking. Honest, Rachel, I heard you the first time. Now tell me something new.

[avebury]

43. I watch/listen to MSNBC all the time on my computer and/or phone.

There are sites that you can stream MSNBC or CNN for free. I frequently run errands after work and plugged in via ear buds to my phone listening to MSNBC.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

48. Yes, but are you signed in via your cable or satellite provider?

That's what I always come up against. No TV. No cable. No satellite. Just this computer and the internet.

[avebury]

50. No. I just pull up the link and watch MSNBC or CNN.

https://www.livenewswatch.com/msnbc-news.html

https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html


https://livenewschat.eu/politics/


https://www.livenewsmag.com/cnn-live-streaming/

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

54. Thank you for those links.

However, live streaming means all the commercials, and I've gotten very spoiled. If I watch, say Rachel Maddow, a couple of hours later, no commercials.

Alas, I will have to do without.

[YOHABLO]

4. I'm not worried. There's a lot of dynamics at play here.

[helpisontheway]

5. This news seriously makes me want to throw up. How could we have so many stupid people in country?

I mean they believe all that Fox garbage. They snub real news stations. I guess they are sick of hearing Rachel say there is something there (because there is) if nothing pans out. The dems got control of Congress and it is like nothing happened because those corrupt assholes still do not pay attention to subpoenas. It is sickening. This makes me believe that he will have another four years. The plan again is to dampen enthusiasm and then allow Russia to meddle again. So depressing...

[Sherman A1]

6. Although I am happy to see folks tuning out Cable Noise

I disagree with the reasoning you stated. In my case it has nothing to do with Impeachment. I am simply fed up with the 24/7 Breaking News of Manufactured Drama Infotainment Model of their programing. It is only designed to fill airtime between ads for drugs we never knew we needed.

[rownesheck]

7. Ding ding ding!

Exactly. I don't watch any of those shows. I vote solidly blue. TV "news" is nothing but wall to wall horse hockey. The damn commercials for prescription drugs are infuriating! I'm surprised any one watches that crap at all. No one should get caught up in "ratings". In fact, I treat "ratings" like the Grammy awards. When someone wins a Grammy, it basically tells me "oh, so that's the music i SHOULDN'T listen to."

[Sherman A1]

10. I like the Grammy comparison

Makes perfect sense to me.

[Ace Rothstein]

16. This. It is fucking exhausting and I haven't watched cable news in months because of it.

[ooky]

29. That pretty much sums it up.

And insurance ads.

I still like to hear perspectives given by Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell, but since its mixed with so much garbage I DVR it and can fast forward through the parts I don't want. The rest of cable news I've shut off completely, its just so annoying. For daytime sometimes I will tune in to Free Speech TV, and get news from Democracy Now and PBS News hour.

MSNBC and CNN are horseshit.

[Itchinjim]

8. It's summer. Nobody watches TV during the summer.

[hlthe2b]

9. Trump fatigue and summer activities competing for time. I don't think it more than that.

[rainin]

11. I've watched religiously for years and I stopped watching recently.

It is absolutely trump fatigue. I didn't know her ratings were going down, but I'm not surprised. It's not her, it's Nancy Pelosi. I simply can't handle the emotional weight of knowing how bad it is and feeling utterly powerless as a democrat. Nancy Pelosi is simply the wrong person for this moment. We need democrats who are fierce and vocal. We need Benghazi hearings -- non stop. I've tuned out for my mental health.

[Sunsky]

12. Exactly

I still watch but not as I used to. We have the information but not enough is being done about it. It's not an issue with Rachel, it's an issue with the folks we've voted for in Congress. Everyone I've spoken to have given up on Congress doing their duty. It's frustrating.

[SweetieD]

35. I started tuning out about a year ago before the Mueller report was released. I saw early on

Trump was going nowhere and would serve 4 years. So much focus on Russia when he has done a million other things in his presidency which warrant impeachment.

For example, taking in money from foreign governments and leaders through his private hotels warrants impeachment in and of itself. He has violated the emoluments clause from day 1.

[MFM008]

13. Oh boy...

[uponit7771]

14. Usual summer dip, the left doesn't enable racist like the right does in Red Don

[GoCubsGo]

15. Everyone is squeezing in their last summer vacations.

I have seen a huge drop-off in the attendance of classes I take at my gym, too. People are busy with other things right now. Not everyone spends their lives plastered in front of MSNBC, or even their TVs, in general.

[Andy823]

36. Exactly!

and the diehard fox cult, never go on vacation and never leave their TV so their numbers stay up.

[UniteFightBack]

17. "How much the Mueller investigation cost versus what it achieved". Says it all about YOU. nt

[Kingofalldems]

18. The only one I ever heard saying Mueller's testimony was a bust--

Donald Trump.

I think his testimony was devastating to Trump.

[jimmy the one]

19. The Mueller Pardon, & who needs cable tv

MSNBC's surge has slowed, with Maddow slipping into fifth place overall with a total audience of 2.487 million viewers, behind Hannity (3.332 million), Tucker Carlson Tonight (3.145 million),

I cancelled cable tv april 01 2019, after mueller report was released, due to disillusionment & not wanting to listen to fox braggadocio vs liberal monday morning quarterbacking. I now just get pbs newshour free using rabbit ears on the flat screen.
I thought surely trump would get his comeuppance from mueller since there were so many blatant or implied violations trump was guilty of, but then he rec'd his 'mueller pardon' and I lost faith in justice being rendered, the bloviating windbag's 'no collusion' chant emboldened. I suspect this was a trend amongst other democrats and truth seekers - while maybe not a cancellation of cable per se, but a cancellation of interest in liberal reporting of mueller, due to the letdown it created amongst us.

So it's the right wing happy time I think a good reason in part, for the surge in televised right wing nut jobs rise in ratings.
There's another factor I've noted for higher RW ratings, that some UNtelevised rightwing nut jobs & businesses will leave their cable tvs on to fox an inordinately high time during the day & even night (without really watching) compared with democrats like myself who more generally wouldn't do that since a tv uses power which increases your electric bill and wastes energy, rationale which generally means little to RWNJs and climate change deniers. This I believe would inflate ratings for right wing tv shows. But this has probably been 'de rigueur' for years, rather than mueller induced.

(I be lucky, my old time $60/month underground cable service you can cancel & reconnect at will if say you go on vacation, unlike dish & satellite which have long term year or two contracts at $80 rigid per month or so. Disconnecting for 5 months (till sept football season!) saves about $300 altho amanpour constant reruns & pbs newshour are, well, not really top of the line, but adequate enough for a daily news report. Anybody ever heard of 'Poldark', eh, not bad! forget 'atlantis' & 'jamestown' tho, not good....) Upside is, FREE.

[JCMach1]

28. MSNBC/NBC is annoying about streaming

I would actually pay a reasonably fee just for a good NBC news app that contained live MSNBC. Instead, I have to watch pirate streams. Get your act together on news and streaming NBC!

[stopbush]

40. NBC and MSNBC live are both available on YTTV.

$50 a month for 70+ channels.

[JCMach1]

46. It's $40 something for Hulu live, but I don't want all the extra channels

I just want NBC news live...

Consequently, I installed Mobdro on my Firestick just to fix that issue. Mobro with Netflix, Amazon, and regular Hulu get me everything I need.

[hunter]

22. I don't watch ANY television news or opinion.

No cable, no satellite, no broadcast, no "traditional" television at all, just DVDs and Netflix.

Best of all, no commercials!

I think television is the worst possible medium for news and opinion. I read all my news.

Centrist television and radio, what little there is of it, doesn't seem to be pulling anyone out of the right wing media cesspool.

Hateful television and radio got us into the mess we are in. These media corporations only want eyes and ears for the advertising they sell. They can't have mine, and I won't pay them to deliver that crap to my house.

[brooklynite]

23. The percentage comparison is meaningless...most people don't watch either network

Certainly not the evening opinion shows (I don't watch any). Maddow and Hannity basically appeal to people who already agree with their positions and want their personal opinions and beliefs reinforced. I can do without that.

[Takket]

24. The "country" was never really tuned in

A drop from 3.058M to 2.487M is an ugly 19% drop for her but in terms of the country she dropped a meaningless 0.8% to 0.7%.

[itcfish]

25. It is Summer

Many people are on vacation and Rachel is away a lot. The ratings that count are in September. I watch Rachel, on the following day of the broadcast, on my iPhone on my way to work. Do they count the people who watch it "on Demand"? I don't know how they calculate these numbers.

[katmondoo]

31. Rachel has been taking a lot of time off lately, this can be a turn off.

[Me.]

57. She's NOt The Only One

Do any of them work a five day week anymore? You never know when Joe, Mika and Stephanie Ruhle will show up. Larry O'D often has Fridays off. Some days it's Chris Jansing all day. Nicolle isn't as bad but does seem to have lots of vacay time.

[GemDigger]

26. We need to remember that there is ONLY 1 right wing news station but several liberal stations

add up the liberal stations and compare it to Fox and that is the real number of people watching real news.

[VMA131Marine]

27. 3.3 million is about 1% of the population of the country

On any given night, more people are watching baseball.

[MontanaMama]

30. Her podcast is available the morning after her now airs.

It is almost commercial free...there’s an ad or two for other MSNBC shows and that’s it. Very convenient.

[Initech]

32. Because the Fox Cult has their vice on 24 hours a day.

We have one hour of Maddow a night. And even then most of us are doing stuff and don't plop down in front of the TV for the rest of the night.

[woodsprite]

33. We went on a week vacation and didn't turn the tv or podcasts on once.

Summer may not be the best numbers to go by.

[Buckeyeblue]

37. I wonder if it is seasonal

I rarely watch TV this time of year. In the evenings we stay outside until we are ready for bed. I might watch a movie on the weekend but that's pretty rare.

I wonder if others are the same?

[jalan48]

39. I agree. She's a well paid employee of a giant media conglomerate. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now

does a better job without the need of all the corporate ads.

[stopbush]

41. Perhaps viewers are tiring of her long-winded A segments, where she goes on and on

in an exercise in verbal masturbation for the first 17 minutes of each show. I can't watch it anymore.

[calguy]

55. I have to agree

She makes some good points at times but I just can't listen for a half hour before she comes up with one. I watch three shows lightly. Nicole Wallace, Ari, and Lawrence. And I watch them later on my DVR so I can skip all the endless commercials. When it comes to Rachel, I just don't have the time.

[stopbush]

56. I watch Nicolle and Lawrence.

[GusBob]

42. Its far worse than ratings. Much, much worse

the fat slob pea-brained TeeVee president is glued to the idiot channel and making policy decisions and divisive comments based on their propaganda

[912gdm]

44. I started turning it off when she started giving the last half hour to candidates

[elocs]

47. I didn't stop watching because I never started.

Fact is, I don't watch any of them. I prefer to read and make up my own mind.

[BigDemVoter]

49. I love Rachel.

But I think a lot of Democrats had so much hope placed in the Mueller report that many just got tired of watching Pussy Grabber apparently skate by yet again. Although I DO think Pussy Grabber is about to crash through the ice in the very near future.

But back to Rachel-- there is always a lot of "breaking news" on her show that leads one to think that something "big" is about to happen. The thing is it's like that every night on her show, but for me-- as much as I like her-- I got tired. I still watch her show but not as regularly as I did during the Mueller investigation.

[stopbush]

52. How many of her shows start with her declaring that there is so much

breaking news that she had to throw away the script that she and her staff had slaved over all day?

Could it be that in reality she’s just winging it? That might account for the 17 minutes of wheel spinning that opens each show.

[Pachamama]

51. Oh Puhleeze....Its friggin Summer vacation time and everyone including Rachel Maddow

...have been on vacation and not tuning in....

I laugh when I see anyone suggesting that people are losing interest in watching Rachel Maddow.

If it happens continuously for several months over the next 9 months starting in September - then there is a genuine case to state that people are tuning out....

[Joe941]

53. this is a really bad sign - America has been saturated with all the garbage tRump is putting out.

[lanlady]

58. I listen to her podcast

as I drive to work in the morning. It used to be entirely ad-free, but a few months ago they started to slip in one short ad in the 40-minute block. I don't watch cable anymore; it's unwatchable. (The endless repetitive drug and insurance commercials drive me round the bend.) The podcast is a great option, and fortunately, she doesn't depend on a lot of visuals.

I think Rachel's ratings are falling because of Trump fatigue. They'll probably pick back up in the 2020 election season. If a Democrat is elected, her ratings will roll downhill because she's at her best when exposing the depravity of Republican leaders. That's just how it is.

I may stop listening to her after Trump is out of office. She's can be too didactic at times, and I don't care for her interviews because she seems to do all the talking.

[pnwmom]

59. The Mueller investigation wasn't a bust and it MORE than paid for itself,

through the Manafort convictions alone.

Maybe you're getting too much info from Fox.

[hunter]

60. I'm going to be really really fucking rude here. Rachel Maddow needs to find another venue.

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