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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOD FUCKING DAMN IT!
What will it take? We need to stop this shit now.
Threads about people afraid of going to a mall, going to a sporting event, because they are afraid of being shot.
You want to know the threats I dealt with growing up? Don't eat unwrapped candy or fruit on Halloween. Come home, throw away the unwrapped candy and apples and move on.
My kids, the oldest has completed undergrad. She gets together with her High School friends every New Years eve. About a dozen kids, 10 of them had active shooters on campus during their four years. She had a friend killed in his final quarter of college. A skinny assed, always smiling kid whose parents were missionaries, a half a fucking world away when their son was executed by some disgruntled prick with access to guns. A kid who was getting straight A's but would attend class rarely. A kid who was called out by another friend for not attending classes so made a promise that he would show up for every class his last quarter. So the kid who challenged him to attend every class lives with survivors guilt, a kid who was in tears at her graduation because of her challenge to a friend.
Second kid had to take a test in a student center guarded by campus police due to a shooting threat. Calls in tears after the test because she had to be escorted off campus. She heard Security talking on radios throughout the test. Walks out and sees fear in one of the guards who says, let's get you off campus.
Seriously! My mother told me not to eat any candy prior to getting home, made me dump the candy on the floor and then pointed out what to throw away. I recall one year her even joking about it and popping an unwrapped candy into her mouth and saying it was too good to throw out but I couldn't eat it. Her point being, we are probably going too far, but better safe than sorry.
WTF, now it is you can't go to a mall, to a football game, to a concert. The solutions aren't that difficult. We are going to need to knock some heads to implement the solutions.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,580 posts)Oh I hear you, my dear rufus dog...
kentuck
(111,076 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)But dammit we have to try. We have to stop the violence in act and word, and stand together against this madness.
LonePirate
(13,414 posts)You can respect the right of Americans to live their lives without fear of gun violence or you can respect the right to own guns. You cannot do both. Pick a side.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)"You can respect the right of Americans to live their lives without fear of gun violence or you can respect the right to own guns. You cannot do both. Pick a side."
I want to add that the automatic, rapid-fire, military-type weapons (such as the AR-15) are the worst and absolutely should not be sold under any circumstances to private citizens. F the NRA, their members and lobbyists.
Small hand guns, hunting rifles should be considered on a person to person basis. For instance, rural Alaskans and folks living in Wilderness areas need their guns. Yrs ago, hubs and I hiked, camped in bear and puma country, so we carried "protection."
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)I blame tRump, the NRA and social media. Oh, and of course testosterone.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/opinion/boys-violence-shootings-guns.html
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Come on.
We have a sick society. He is the personification of it, but he did not cause it.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He is making it worse and more often it is being targeted toward minority groups. He has blood on his hands.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)In April there was the shooting at the Poway synagogue in CA and last week was the Gilroy, CA shooting at the Garlic Festival. This is in BLUE CA too! As a former teacher I keep a mental record of these shootings since I sort of had to in order to keep my students and myself safe. This is infuriating!!!
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)I'm sorry but when the leader of the free world stands up and calls the press the enemy of the state. Calls Democrats evil and haters of America, and calls people with brown skin rapists, murderers, and drug dealers what exactly the fuck do you think is causing the uptick in these tragedies?
Yes we have a sick society, yest we had violence before but the reason behind the violence has changed and it is coming from the top guy running our country so yeah the blame goes right fucking directly at his feet!!!
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)I don't like crowded parking lots or buildings or sporting events. It's too overwhelming for me.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)That is where we are all headed.
The rest of the world won't miss a beat.
We will not be missed, or grieved - not much, at least.
Many will wonder "what the fuck happened to those idiots?"
yaesu
(8,020 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)In the voting booth.