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LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:15 AM Aug 2019

But it is not against the law to walk around with a weapon scaring people,

But there are laws against causing a public disturbance, disturbing the peace, Terroristic threatening (waving a gun around at people). There are plenty of laws not dealing with a gun that he could have been charged.

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But it is not against the law to walk around with a weapon scaring people, (Original Post) LiberalArkie Aug 2019 OP
Guns are sacred, no matter how much havoc marybourg Aug 2019 #1
They are, until you threaten someone. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #2
Well, plenty of people have been threatened - and marybourg Aug 2019 #3
People are wanting a specific law. But there are plenty of laws to cover the act. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #5
So, why can't we call police on anyone open-carrying, Ilsa Aug 2019 #4
They have to threaten you with it. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #6
That 20 year old in the Missouri WalMart Ilsa Aug 2019 #8
The presents & possession of a mass kill weapons does just that it threatens people uponit7771 Aug 2019 #11
I've decided snowybirdie Aug 2019 #7
Might work. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #9
Except in California - it led to gun control. jmg257 Aug 2019 #13
+1, uponit7771 Aug 2019 #12
You may end up flooding the store and have to reimburse them. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #15
Yet another television fantasy, like good guys with guns... hunter Aug 2019 #17
Pulling the fire alarm is probably illegal. TomSlick Aug 2019 #20
As mentioned before: SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #10
There is no reason to allow public toting, except in very rare situations. Hoyt Aug 2019 #14
Agreed, But I think when these people start having a police record with a lot of disturbing the peac LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #16
Cops kill people because they say they felt threatened. procon Aug 2019 #18
Outside of being a policeman (and even that is questionable nowaday) Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2019 #19

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
2. They are, until you threaten someone.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:24 AM
Aug 2019

Edited to add:

In Texas, terroristic threats are prohibited under Chapter 22 of the Texas Penal Code:[22][23]

Sec. 22.07. TERRORISTIC THREAT. (a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:

(1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;
(2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;
(3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, place of employment or occupation, aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance, or other public place;
(4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service;
(5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury; or
(6) influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
5. People are wanting a specific law. But there are plenty of laws to cover the act.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019

Having a big knife in a holster on your belt is not against the law, pulling it out and pointing it at someone while making threats will put you in jail. Same with any weapon.

That is why you see the 2nd amendment people never take their weapon and wave it around.

The kid in El Paso had supposedly walked around with his AR-15 in his hands and scaring people. That was a no no. But no witnesses were around to say that when the police arrived.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
4. So, why can't we call police on anyone open-carrying,
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:42 AM
Aug 2019

especially if it is a weapon like an AR or AK? I feel threatened when I see that shit in public for no immediate purpose.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
6. They have to threaten you with it.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:44 AM
Aug 2019

The person screaming "I am going to blow your brains out" will put the person in jail.

snowybirdie

(5,234 posts)
7. I've decided
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:44 AM
Aug 2019

if I see anyone with a weapon in any store, I'm pulling the fire alarm. That's what the manager did yesterday in the Wal Mart in Missouri. Effective in getting folks out of the store. It's dangerous on any level

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
9. Might work.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:51 AM
Aug 2019

We have so many special interests getting laws passed that are hurting us. Like the Harley riders getting the helmet laws removed and noise laws stricken so they can ride around with loud exhaust.

Same with the gun owners. No one in their right mind would have in the the 50's or 60's walked into a store with weapons or walked down the street (except to a gun shop) with weapons, they would have been arrested even then for causing a disturbance. It needs to happen now.

Not gun laws, but causing a disturbance or making threatening movements etc.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
13. Except in California - it led to gun control.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:09 AM
Aug 2019

"One of the most obvious examples was California’s Mulford Act, signed in 1967 by Governor Ronald Reagan. The law was a direct response to the Black Panthers’ open-carry patrols of Oakland neighborhoods and banned the carrying of loaded weapons. It is also worth noting that the NRA, who for all the attention given to them by the media has often promoted the growth of government restrictions on gun rights, actively supported the legislation."

https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-mulford-act-and-americas-racist-history-of-gun-control/242420/

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
20. Pulling the fire alarm is probably illegal.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:34 PM
Aug 2019

My plan is to yell "GUN!" and move quickly to the door. I'm betting I clear the place.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
10. As mentioned before:
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:00 AM
Aug 2019

What happens when Open Carry meets Stand Your Ground?
All you have to prove in a Stand Your Ground defense is that you truly felt that your life was in danger. So if you come around the corner in the grocery store and see some guy adjusting his AK-47 hanging from his shoulder, you may have a perfect alibi if you take your AR-15 and shoot him 10 or 25 times.
NRA and MAGAts would just call this unfortunate collateral damage. I would call it Instant Karma.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
16. Agreed, But I think when these people start having a police record with a lot of disturbing the peac
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:20 AM
Aug 2019

Terroristic threatening, etc. It might make them rethink their decisions in life. They are not doing it for any reason other than to cause a ruckus, like the guys who drive with no exhaust.

Just to get noticed.

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. Cops kill people because they say they felt threatened.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

Even when there is no gun involved. If that excuse allows cops to kill, why isn't it enough for any citizen to cite fear of being murdered as a valid reason to have these gun exhibitionists removed from the pubic venue?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
19. Outside of being a policeman (and even that is questionable nowaday)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:21 PM
Aug 2019

I feel like people open carrying is intimidating and I very definitely would be very cautious and modify my behavior around them accordingly. I don't see any kind of justification for allowing open carry of weapons and think that it ultimately creates a hostile environment.

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