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EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:01 PM Aug 2019

The problem is not socialism. It's rigged capitalism.

ATTENTION DEM POLS: Good messaging --- good sound bite: The problem is not socialism. It's rigged capitalism.


The problem is not socialists.They have no place in US politics and won't. The problem is not capitalism. It worked well to make American the economic powerhouse of the world. The problem is rigged capitalism--which for 40 yrs the GOP has engineered with the help of some Dems.

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The benefits of growth accrue primarily to the top 1 percent and hardly at all to the bottom 90 percent. Trump was elected because of people's outrage with the system that made this happen and disenfranchised them (HRC was seen as part of the establishment that made it happen.)

But he has proven to be the most corrupt president ever--self-dealing & working to empower the richest and to plunder the country's assets on their behalf. He has taken advantage of campaign finance laws (and rulings like Citizens United) that have further empowered the powerful.

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David Rothkopf

Edited to add:

Effective unions are not socialism, they are vintage U.S. capitalism.




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albacore

(2,747 posts)
2. How about adding that we've had some socialist components for years - Social Security and Medicare..
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:14 PM
Aug 2019

...for decades. And we like them.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,781 posts)
4. The primary flaw with our system of capitalism to me is...
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 06:32 PM
Aug 2019

that excess profits that come out of our pockets (from purchases of goods and services) are turned against us via the support of right-wing governments around the globe, and to provide extreme largess for the ultra-wealthy - a practice our planet cannot support forever.

Further, that very wealth that we gave them seems to bring in a mindset that their wealth entitles them to more control than average citizens. In other words, power in proportion to wealth rather than in proportion to population.

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The GOP will say that adjusting tax laws so that the super-rich pay their share is "socialism." It is not. It is capitalism as it was practiced in the US until just the last few decades. They will say measures to rein in the power of big corporations is socialism.

Such bullshit and deception. Taxing the wealthy actually is an element of capitalism because of the many, many ways governments provide support for capitalism.

KY.......

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
6. The problem is neoliberalism
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:23 PM
Aug 2019

Reagan and Margaret Thatcher made it popular. Every president since then has advocated it's virtues. Low taxes on the wealthy and on corporations, decreased regulations — let the markets decide everything.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
7. You can have Democratic Socialism
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

Social Security, Med for all, Free College...
or Republican Socialism, Tax Cuts for Rich and Corps. Bail Outs for the Banks, Subsidies for Oil and Gas. Welfare and Food Stamp Cuts. Higher Taxes on the working class to pay for it all.

lpbk2713

(43,271 posts)
9. Big business has changed us in may ways.
Sun Aug 11, 2019, 08:34 PM
Aug 2019



Union busting and price fixing to just name two.
And paying off corrupt pols who will let them do it.

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