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Ghislaine Maxwell Photos-Can you Spot the Difference? (Original Post) Blueplanet Aug 2019 OP
Lost a few years, I'd say. elleng Aug 2019 #1
They're at different times, and someone made her look different ages in the photos? (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #2
Top photo has a purse the bottom photo has a book. nt 42bambi Aug 2019 #3
Look again. MicaelS Aug 2019 #6
The purse is to the right in the second photo. brooklynite Aug 2019 #9
Hmm Blueplanet Aug 2019 #4
Agreed, but why do her the "favor" of making her look younger? whathehell Aug 2019 #52
the NY Post claimed she was alone with her dog, yet there are 2 drinks, 2 fries with her Celerity Aug 2019 #5
Do you eat at In-n-out? Because one is the shake cup and the other is for water that they give you Pachamama Aug 2019 #17
She took off her glasses to read a book? Qutzupalotl Aug 2019 #7
My wife can't do up close with her glasses on TexasProgresive Aug 2019 #12
Same here MaryMagdaline Aug 2019 #22
I do treestar Aug 2019 #50
Both pics have same woman in background secondwind Aug 2019 #8
Right. elleng Aug 2019 #13
A fast food joint's secret sauce has wrinkle remover in it? Brother Buzz Aug 2019 #10
This is an embarrassing thread... brooklynite Aug 2019 #11
NOT at the same time, or different woman; elleng Aug 2019 #14
If you are into taking selfies, you can look great in one photo and 10 yrs older in the next womanofthehills Aug 2019 #26
Fill-in flash on the second one jberryhill Aug 2019 #32
Photographers rarely use flash anymore - that was done in Photoshop womanofthehills Aug 2019 #62
No guy on the right in the first. cwydro Aug 2019 #66
In one, she's wearing glasses, which makes a huge difference. Frustratedlady Aug 2019 #15
Maxwell's head was photoshopped on the body. Sanity Claws Aug 2019 #16
I am a woman her age, raised in Europe and I eat at In-n-out Pachamama Aug 2019 #20
She's doing one of my favorite poses in the second photo StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #25
Just took a bite and chewing, too jberryhill Aug 2019 #28
I agree... Newest Reality Aug 2019 #21
Yes. Blueplanet Aug 2019 #23
There are many differences.... BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #18
Agreed - I work in Photoshop almost ever day womanofthehills Aug 2019 #30
I just saw that there are several who are encouraging this theory... BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #35
Interesting link Blueplanet Aug 2019 #45
Yesterday I read that Amazon was getting tons of orders for that book. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #49
What do you think of the photo in post 51? nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #56
Someone obviously photoshopped the cat on the shirt. So what? BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #61
Look behind her. The whole background is different. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2019 #59
Everything is ifenticle, just taken from a slightly different angle... BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #60
IF this is that beastly, filthy, a moral woman .... LenaBaby61 Aug 2019 #19
Two photos, one candid, the other posed, of the same woman taken in the same setting, close in time StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #24
And also ignoring one of the other photos... jberryhill Aug 2019 #38
Good Find Blueplanet Aug 2019 #44
In Mass she owned a Viszla. Now she has this dog? Arazi Aug 2019 #48
maybe it's a rental jberryhill Aug 2019 #58
Looks like she's sucking food out of her teeth in the first one jberryhill Aug 2019 #27
I can tell from the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time... blogslut Aug 2019 #29
The first one is Epstein in drag!!1!1 klook Aug 2019 #31
She appears to be wiping her hands, and swallowing at a 3/4 view, which is Sugar Smack Aug 2019 #33
The biggest problem I see... Takket Aug 2019 #34
Thread winner. MontanaMama Aug 2019 #36
A more interesting question is which In-N-Out jberryhill Aug 2019 #37
The one closest to Universal Studios miyazaki Aug 2019 #41
Sure enough - right off the 101 on Cahuenga jberryhill Aug 2019 #42
oooh! ooohh! I LOVE these kinds of puzzles!! Okay, here goes: TygrBright Aug 2019 #39
Sorry - No Prizes! Blueplanet Aug 2019 #47
second photo enid602 Aug 2019 #40
oooooooh jberryhill Aug 2019 #43
This is a really interesting thread. Thanks to the knowledgeable DUers for sharing. nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #46
Did you see this?? Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2019 #51
Oh My! Very good. Blueplanet Aug 2019 #53
So this is proof of some photo shopping. Right? nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #54
Yes - I believe it is Blueplanet Aug 2019 #55
Do you think the day is coming when experts won't be able... LAS14 Aug 2019 #63
That day is probably already here Blueplanet Aug 2019 #68
I used to be great at these on the back of Highlights Magazine underpants Aug 2019 #57
Did that guy move across the table to get into the pic? lame54 Aug 2019 #64
photoshopped Sanity Claws Aug 2019 #65
Wow! Blueplanet Aug 2019 #69
The Daily Mail says she's still in Massachusetts. gldstwmn Aug 2019 #73
According to Jezebel, Good Boys gldstwmn Aug 2019 #67
The Dog Blueplanet Aug 2019 #70
Picture of the Dog Blueplanet Aug 2019 #71
Inside Edition Video re: Photo Blueplanet Aug 2019 #72
California is the only place I've seen blue street signs discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2019 #74

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
6. Look again.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:03 PM
Aug 2019

Purse is now off to the right.

Blouse, rings and purse are the same. Taken within a short period of time and shopped.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
52. Agreed, but why do her the "favor" of making her look younger?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 01:01 PM
Aug 2019

She seems an unworthy recipient of such kindness.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
17. Do you eat at In-n-out? Because one is the shake cup and the other is for water that they give you
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:30 PM
Aug 2019

I don’t see two fries - they wrap in paper their burgers...

Ghislaine orders like me......

A double double,fries, a Shake and a water - sometimes I Order off the secret menu some grilled onions and a Black & white


Also - one tray there - had there been order for two people they hand at counter on two trays

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
12. My wife can't do up close with her glasses on
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:07 PM
Aug 2019

She never needed reading glasses even before cataract surgery.

brooklynite

(94,368 posts)
11. This is an embarrassing thread...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:06 PM
Aug 2019

It's the same person at the same time in the same place. The first photo was taken probably when she was first seen. The second photo was posed and she took off her glasses and pulled out a book. The two drink cups are in both photos, the woman in the rear is the same in both photos, the person off screen on the left is holding the same burger.

elleng

(130,760 posts)
14. NOT at the same time, or different woman;
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:11 PM
Aug 2019

hair, skin (aged in first) differ. Photo-shopped/made up.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
26. If you are into taking selfies, you can look great in one photo and 10 yrs older in the next
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:22 PM
Aug 2019

The editors might have eliminated a wrinkle or two to make her look better for more sales. However, just turning your head a slight angle can make all the difference in how your wrinkles appear. The second photo is a little lighter with more contrast - something editors would want to do in Photoshop for publication.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. Fill-in flash on the second one
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:27 PM
Aug 2019

Since the first one is candid, the photographer would unlikely be using flash, if he thought she might bolt.

She's got the burger wrapper in her hands in the first one, clearly just took a bite and is maneuvering the food in her mouth to chew it.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
62. Photographers rarely use flash anymore - that was done in Photoshop
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 08:35 PM
Aug 2019

Even an i phone will take great pics in super low light and that is a daylight photo.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
66. No guy on the right in the first.
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 11:35 AM
Aug 2019

But he’s there in the second.

Lots of differences in the background.

I have no idea what this thread is about however.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
15. In one, she's wearing glasses, which makes a huge difference.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

The second is from a different angle. We all have a good angle and a bad one. The 2nd is her good angle.

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
16. Maxwell's head was photoshopped on the body.
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:22 PM
Aug 2019

The woman in the top photo looks to be in her 60s. Maxwell is a well-kept 50 something.
I don't believe that a woman raised in Europe and known to be wanted at least for questioning would hang out at a burger joint in Los Angeles.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
20. I am a woman her age, raised in Europe and I eat at In-n-out
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:41 PM
Aug 2019

Their burgers are fantastic and the shakes are too...

Your assumptions are way off... I even know the secret non-published menu.

I look awful if caught off guard and a photo snapped - especially from side or taken from below. But I have pose where I tilt my gaze in one direction and smile just so and I look 10 years younger. Every 50ish plus woman knows that.

And especially when I just had a few Dysport injections in the forehead that relax it and fill worry lines...

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
21. I agree...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:52 PM
Aug 2019

Not that it makes a big difference, but I have used Photoshop professionally for many years.

The body and scenes are the same, but the face has been placed and there are several factors that indicate that. It was a good job, too, but the lighting on the second face is a little out of context.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
18. There are many differences....
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:34 PM
Aug 2019

First of all in one she is EATING and READING A BOOK. Every person on the planet looks different when they are moving, especially all the facial muscles involved in the process of eating and chewing. She has glasses on too, which people do when they read and always alter a person's appearance. When she was photographed when she was still, and not eating and facing the camera she looks different since ALL people do! I drew live models for years and years in Art School and took tons of photos too and the whole idea that this particular photo is photoshopped based on "see any difference" is ridiculous.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
61. Someone obviously photoshopped the cat on the shirt. So what?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 07:57 PM
Aug 2019

Next someone will photoshop Bill Clinton on it instead of Bob the Cat. Maybe she will also get a Hitler mustache and a pirate eye patch. The first two weren't photoshopped.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,866 posts)
59. Look behind her. The whole background is different.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

That might be because it's taken from a different angle.

The white fence is gone in one. People are gone. Buildings are dufferent.
.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
60. Everything is ifenticle, just taken from a slightly different angle...
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 07:54 PM
Aug 2019

Look closely. It is the same...I have a sharp eye and compared and contrasted them. Same exact setting and time of day, slightly different angle is all.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
19. IF this is that beastly, filthy, a moral woman ....
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:35 PM
Aug 2019

She'll probably also end up with the same fate as her beastly, filthy, a moral, pedophile, rapist boyfriend

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. Looks like she's sucking food out of her teeth in the first one
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:25 PM
Aug 2019

And the second one uses fill-in flash.

Seems the first picture was an ambush, and she agreed to a second one.

One problem with still pictures is that by freezing moments, the context of an image of a moving subject is lost.

I guess we are supposed to think - from the question - that the first picture is of an older woman, and that the Post did some magic switheroo or something. But, really, why publish both photos if that was the case.

In the first pick, she's got what looks like it may be a burger wrapper in her hand (one of those In-N-Out hamburger sleeves), just took a bite and is chewing on it.

Nobody looks right when they've just taken a bite out of something and is chewing.

In the second one, it looks like she posed with the book out, and the photographer used fill-in flash.

Some time has lapsed, since the diners at the table in the back right have left and been replaced. The woman at back left is still there.

As far as the beverages go, the two cups are different colors. Is that a coffee and a water, as is common in Europe?

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
33. She appears to be wiping her hands, and swallowing at a 3/4 view, which is
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:28 PM
Aug 2019

not a good look for anyone. In the 2nd one, she's doing a typical pose of a woman who's prepared for her picture to be taken. She's prepared herself my removing her glasses, a straight ahead look, and a subtle face-lift pull with the hand she's "resting" on.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
34. The biggest problem I see...
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 11:31 PM
Aug 2019

Is that in none of these pictures she’s handcuffed and in the back of a police car

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. A more interesting question is which In-N-Out
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 12:28 AM
Aug 2019

I'm doing streetview of the ones in LA and haven't found it yet.

miyazaki

(2,239 posts)
41. The one closest to Universal Studios
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 01:34 AM
Aug 2019

Just had me a "Double Double" yesterday. So the thread caught my attention. And of course, much better than Chik-Fil-A.

TygrBright

(20,755 posts)
39. oooh! ooohh! I LOVE these kinds of puzzles!! Okay, here goes:
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 01:04 AM
Aug 2019

Top photo is #1, bottom is #2

#1 has way less traffic. Angle of sun on the building with the two green awnings is quite different. Camera is about 18" further back from subject in foreground and angled slightly down as though photographer was standing.

#2 has more traffic in background, brighter reflection off windows under the green awnings. The guy in the purplish-blue t-shirt has joined the party at the table to the right behind foreground subject. Foreground subject has taken off glasses, placed an open book atop the phone, moved purse to the right of meal tray. Camera is closer and angled straight-on as though photographer has stooped a little.

What do I win?

interestedly,
Bright

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
53. Oh My! Very good.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 01:28 PM
Aug 2019


At first, I could not figure out the cartoon character on her shirt. Then I noticed your comment at the bottom; it's Bill the Cat.

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
63. Do you think the day is coming when experts won't be able...
Mon Aug 19, 2019, 04:04 PM
Aug 2019

... to tell if something has been Photo-shopped? Or the equivalent? (Is that term like kleenex and xerox - now generic?)

tia
las

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
68. That day is probably already here
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:31 PM
Aug 2019

LAS14

It's very difficult to determine if something has been photo-shopped. Even professionals can be put to the task when trying to determine if something is fake or not.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
57. I used to be great at these on the back of Highlights Magazine
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 02:29 PM
Aug 2019

I said HighLIGHTS not High Times ya damned hippies.

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
69. Wow!
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

Thanks for the link Sanity Claws.

Part of a paragraph from the article:

"But the Daily Mail, renowned investigative shop that it is, took a very intensive look at the photo and arrived an interesting conclusion: It was staged by Maxwell’s attorney, Leah Saffian."

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
73. The Daily Mail says she's still in Massachusetts.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:06 PM
Aug 2019

Their skills rival that of the National Enquirer who, say what you will, could find just about anyone anywhere on this planet.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
67. According to Jezebel, Good Boys
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:40 PM
Aug 2019

never had an ad at that bus stop. Also the dog belongs to a friend/attorney. Supposedly it has it's own Instagram page. For some reason I'm reminded of those Lee Harvey Oswald photos.
Wherever she is, she's pretty well hidden it seems.

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