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Trump is now demanding that all US automakers, or he called them politically correct automakers, lower car prices by $3,000 across the board.
Trump tweeted:
Link to tweet
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Trumps tweet was the opposite of free-market principles. The President Of The United States is demanding that automakers lower their car prices. The government is trying to tell automakers how much they can charge for their products.
Donald Trump is showing signs of seriously losing his mind. There has been a great of hyperbole about the presidents mental state, and if one looks back over the last few decades speculation about a presidents health has become a national hobby, but Trumps tweet is very bizarre behavior. The Republican Party once accused Barack Obama of trying to nationalize the auto industry through a government bailout, but they say nothing when Trump tries to impose price controls on auto companies.
The tweet was likely part of a half baked Trump pitch to derail a recession by spurring auto purchases.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/21/out-of-his-mind-trump-demands-automakers-lower-all-car-prices-by-3000.html
RainCaster
(13,710 posts)What a shithead
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Can you imagine him raving out the car window too?
no_hypocrisy
(54,906 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Or $15 an hour.
Republicans think that is a lot.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)those tax cuts for the rich. What say you.
marble falls
(71,919 posts)house prices and lower corn and food prices and then lower taxes and then $3000 off auto prices and then lower wages and then lower rents and then $10.000 0ff house prices ....
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Jared could go for lower rents to support daddy-in-law.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)Next, he'll demand that TV manufacturers lower their prices by $0.30 to spur TV sales.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Why doesn't he just get right on making the "people's car" at an affordable price? It has been done, as history shows, and it worked.
Maybe he can start work on a really big highway, too. We can call it the Trumperbhan and Germany can pay for it.

Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)and we'll all get a ride lol
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)None of the KDF Wagons ever got made as the manufacturing plant switched to war vehicle production immediately. It was only after the war that the plant began to produce consumer cars under the British occupation.
As an interesting note, the Volkswagen only exists because a bomb dropped on the plant that wedged into the generators failed to explode. If it had gone off, the plant would have been abandoned.
tanyev
(49,291 posts)onenote
(46,140 posts)Trump wants to keep fuel mileage standards low. But California has very high standards and the big automakers have decided that they'd rather try to meet the California standards than fight for the low standards that Trump wants to give them. So, of course, the big baby in the WH is upset that the auto companies aren't toeing his line. His "logic" is that by keeping the standards low, car prices will be lower than would otherwise be the case. And people will buy more new cars if the prices are lower. And new cars are safer than old cars and thus, in Trump's "logic", raising the fuel standards will result in more traffic fatalities because people will be driving older cars longer.
It's just another tantrum.
JDC
(11,111 posts)F'ing clown
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)While we're at it, let's have all landlords cut rents in half.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)Rent control is very different than cutting all current rents in half. That was kind of a joke. A ridiculous idea that will never happen. I'm not really sure what you mean.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Hes not demanding they lower prices by $3,000.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)era regulations, cars would all be $3000 cheaper.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)As if global warming isn't bad enough now. But President Dipshit doesn't believe in it, so I guess that would make sense to him.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)to put the changes in place so they'd meet or exceed what was out in place to help protect the environment and save consumers gas/money.
It's about their bottom line so they're certainly not going to do it just to satisfy the ego of a looney huckster who will quite possibly be gone come the election and his successor would probably make them change it all back.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)#1 Auto Manufacturers must sell fuel efficient and electric vehicles
#2 Consumers must buy enough of them
Unless both of those occur, the auto manufacturers face millions and millions in fines.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)they'd be fined.
While sales 'may' go up temporarily, Trump wants the car mfgs to ditch things that make cars pollute less and get better gas. Again it's not worth it to them to make his changes.
He knows jack about cars and certainly not what actually goes into the manufacturing of them.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)Many of us in Michigan employed by the auto industry are concerned when our employers get fined millions for selling the vehicles that customers are interested in buying. Hardly ever see a Tesla or Bolt and not many Prius on the roads around here
Around my part of the state approx. half of all vehicles on the road are full size pickups.
Even though I don't prefer them, the strong sales have kept many of us employed and taking care of our families.
Nearly every auto manufacturer has electric vehicles for sale, but they languish at dealerships as consumers pass right by them.
How do you force people to buy them when gas prices are relatively low like they are now?
The best way to encourage people to buy electric and fuel efficient vehicles to combat climate change would be substantial increases in gas taxes. No politician will ever support this because the anger of voters would be immense.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)In northern NY but it closed years ago. We live in farm country which means an awful lot of full size pick-ups around. (It's a noticeable increase from where we grew up outside of Albany). We currently have an old rust bucket F150 because it hauls hay and construction materials so well. My husband was pretty excited to learn that Ford will be offering an electric version of its F150 (he's a retired engineer).
I agree with you about taxing fuel for vehicles higher. NY does this and, I believe, the funds are supposedly going towards road maintenance.
(Side note: I'm fairly familiar with Michigan and have a nostalgic fondness for it. I've been there a few times since both my husband and I had family there.
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customerserviceguy
(25,406 posts)would cut back on wasteful advertising, they could sell cars for $4,000 cheaper.
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)sinkingfeeling
(57,835 posts)MichMan
(17,150 posts)I know hundreds of people in Michigan that are employed by the auto industry; either directly by the automakers or by the dozens and dozens of suppliers in our state. Under the CAFE standards in place, failure to meet them results in the manufacturers being fined millions and millions. Those fines will directly impact the wages of employees and profit sharing just like tariffs have.
Nearly every auto manufacturer has electric vehicles for sale, but they languish at dealerships as consumers pass right by them.
How do you force people to buy them when gas prices are relatively low like they are now?
The best way to encourage people to buy electric and fuel efficient vehicles to combat climate change would be substantial increases in gas taxes. No politician will ever support this because the anger of voters would be immense.
Ron Green
(9,870 posts)we are truly screwed. People care mostly about their comfort and convenience, their freedom. Theyll never do the right thing for the planet or for the future.
Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)by absurdity45.
colsohlibgal
(5,276 posts)And he lies constantly, a real serial liar. And his ever shrinking base loves it despite the nut show.
He is losing support constantly, and as has been detailed lately, he is specifically bleeding College educated folks, particularly women.
The lady Lawrence ODonnell has had on the last few nights, who nailed the 2018 election results, says at worst our candidate in 2020, whoever it is among the top contenders, will still have us at 278 Electoral votes....with 4 other States as possible wins.....and I still hold out hope for my State, Ohio. Anyway she says we just need to get out and vote at least like we did in 2018, and give up peeling away Trump voters.
Vote early if you can, it is easy, I did it last time and will do it from now on.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)after 16 years, we had to buy a new vehicle we did not get that much of a discount or trade in because we drove the thing to death.
GRRRR
Freedomofspeech
(4,794 posts)That is all I have to say.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)This guy is clearly unfit. When is something going to be done about it?
Dagstead Bumwood
(6,640 posts)And probably more ways than we could even catalogue. But, I hear he's up for that King of Israel gig. Maybe they can take him off of our hands.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)He's apparently proposing a reduction in emissions standards, which would allow car costs to be lowered. His tweet is apparently because auto manufacturers don't want to reduce standards.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)Exotic materials (Aluminum or Magnesium instead of steel) and high tech required to achieve mileage targets is very costly. It would naturally cause new vehicle prices to rise. That may be offset by reduced costs of operation, but sticker prices will rise.
I'm curious that once electric vehicles become more mainstream, will gas prices erode due to decreased demand ? That would further make decisions by consumers more challenging towards meeting the CAFE standards.
If gas prices are $5 per gallon, CAFE standards in actuality aren't even necessary as consumers will flock to electric and fuel efficient hybrids. What happens if gas prices hover around $2 per gallon? Makes deciding to buy alternative fuel vehicles much less important for consumers. In this situation, the manufacturers face massive fines for not meeting targets through no fault of their own.
Emission standards really aren't what is being discussed here; it is the CAFE standards
salin
(48,958 posts)Lower prices by 3K - AND make safer. Sounds great - so how is this going to happen? Response = deflection to whine, or empty words of greatest president ever - but never an explanation of how 1 + 2 = 3. Aka blowing smoke from his hind side.
Given the higher cost of materials and supplies due to his tariffs, the only way $3k can be cut from price, is to cut wages.
Yea Trump! (/s) So much winning (/s) = So Much Gaslighting.
Initech
(108,782 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)and list the price ACTUALLY paid, and say "SEE, I WON, AND AMERICANS ARE PAYING LESS FOR THEIR CARS.
ONLY I CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.
YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO VOTE FOR ME.
caps/off sorry, I tend to scream when speaking about turdface.