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Snarkoleptic

(5,995 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:41 AM Aug 2019

Now is the time to ask questions about the retirement of Anthony Kennedy from SCOTUS.

Putin's cronies apparently co-signed Deutsche bank loans for Trump, so it's time to shine on spotlight on the Kennedy SCOTUS retirement.
It's all connected folks, it's all deeply connected.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-kennedy-son-loaned-president-trump-over-a-billion-dollars-2018-6

The son of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy was leading a real-estate division of Deutsche Bank as it gave President Donald Trump over $1 billion in loans to finance his real-estate projects when other banks wouldn't, The New York Times reported Thursday.

Justin Kennedy, the former global head of Deutsche Bank's real-estate capital markets division, was one of Trump's close business associates, The Times reported, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

Because of Trump's inconsistent track record in business, which included multiple bankruptcy filings and frequent lawsuits, most other major banks would not lend to him. Deutsche Bank loaned Trump the funds to construct and renovate skyscrapers and other developments in New York City and Chicago, The Times reported.

After Trump's first address to Congress, in February 2017, he reportedly stopped to chat with Anthony Kennedy, saying: "Say hello to your boy. Special guy."




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Now is the time to ask questions about the retirement of Anthony Kennedy from SCOTUS. (Original Post) Snarkoleptic Aug 2019 OP
Then there's this video of Trump making a comment that stops Kennedy in his tracks. Snarkoleptic Aug 2019 #1
! dchill Aug 2019 #2
+1 dalton99a Aug 2019 #3
Whoa! ewagner Aug 2019 #11
👀 Mersky Aug 2019 #16
That's NOT a reaction to Trump saying, "I dig Taylor Swift." Bob Loblaw Aug 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Bob Loblaw Aug 2019 #34
There's layer upon layer Duppers Aug 2019 #4
Dems can impeach, but we're stuck with him until January 2021. Lonestarblue Aug 2019 #6
Yep, these guys have an odd view of how best to celebrate Independence Day. Snarkoleptic Aug 2019 #7
They're Moscow Mules alright. calimary Aug 2019 #17
I hope they don't own shanti Aug 2019 #30
You're right!! Duppers Aug 2019 #8
There's always the Big Mac solution to removing Fat Donnie from office. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #19
We'll take anything at this point. Duppers Aug 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Aug 2019 #22
Maybe the Senate Republicans don't convict LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #29
But if Traitor Tot is impeached, he'll go down in history that way. He'd hate that; ergo, me likey! OMGWTF Aug 2019 #36
Haha, well, let's not forget the Garland Theft and Deception bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #5
I learned a new word today: "prorogued" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #21
Glad you brought this to the forefront. ewagner Aug 2019 #9
Trump's hidden back channel to Justice Kennedy: Their kids malaise Aug 2019 #10
Even if impeachment fails to convict, at least it will show the complicity of the GOP Senate. world wide wally Aug 2019 #12
NB: This story is from June of LAST YEAR... Grins Aug 2019 #13
The time to ask questions was before he swore in Kennedy's replacement, amywalk Aug 2019 #14
NEW YORK STATE & CITY SayItLoud Aug 2019 #15
Was trying to remember who had a questionable connection to DB Mersky Aug 2019 #18
That exhange reminds me of 'We had a deal!' pecosbob Aug 2019 #20
K&R BlueJac Aug 2019 #23
This conspiracy theory never made sense to me FBaggins Aug 2019 #25
You don't pick your clerks for the next term if you are planning on retiring.... mikeysnot Aug 2019 #26
That's not true FBaggins Aug 2019 #28
Anecdotal at best. mikeysnot Aug 2019 #31
I presume you're referring to the link in your post FBaggins Aug 2019 #32
no your post. mikeysnot Sep 2019 #38
If you're referring to Sandra Day O'Connor Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #37
He knew there was a conflict of interest with his son working so closely with Donald Trump... kentuck Aug 2019 #27
No, now is not the time. The time is long past. It should have been questioned at the time, and was Amaryllis Aug 2019 #35

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
33. That's NOT a reaction to Trump saying, "I dig Taylor Swift."
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 07:41 PM
Aug 2019

Looks more like, "I've got a lot of dirt on your son."

Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #1)

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
4. There's layer upon layer
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:24 AM
Aug 2019

of evidence, of reasons to immediately IMPEACH this p.o.s.

What's it going to take?

Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
6. Dems can impeach, but we're stuck with him until January 2021.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:39 AM
Aug 2019

Republicans will do nothing. Some of them most likely are also compromised by Russia (McConnell?) and may have been ordered by Putin to avoid any criticism of Trump. I don’t remember which Republicans spent the July 4 holiday with Putin a year ago, but all of them are questionable.

The only possibility I see for Trump leaving earlier is if he resigns. If the press would accurately report his actions as irresponsible and irrational, and if they report every hearing in the Judiciary and other investigative committees every day to shine a light on Trump’s corruption, he might be pressured to resign. As long as McConnell is in the Senate, though, no conviction and removal from office will be allowed to happen. I don’t see the 25th being invoked either because Trump has filled his administration with incompetent toadies.

Duppers

(28,094 posts)
8. You're right!!
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:49 AM
Aug 2019

I just posted this in another thread:
And the press has helped him by protecting the reichwing Republican party. They've thrown cover, used the "both-sides"/whataboutism empty arguments. They amount to Faux and Faux-light.

Most Americans remain sorely uninformed.

19. There's always the Big Mac solution to removing Fat Donnie from office.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:08 AM
Aug 2019

It's kind of like the "Second Amendment solution" he touted on the campaign trail, except it's a lot less messier and it's self-inflicted (unless they hold Ronald McDonald responsible).

Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #6)

LiberalFighter

(50,477 posts)
29. Maybe the Senate Republicans don't convict
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:46 AM
Aug 2019

But it puts them on the record with their vote. That is important!

Personally, I don't want him to resign. He does a Nixon when he should be removed.

McConnell doesn't get to decide whether the trial proceeds either. Any impeachment sent to the Senate must be acted on.

OMGWTF

(3,891 posts)
36. But if Traitor Tot is impeached, he'll go down in history that way. He'd hate that; ergo, me likey!
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:28 PM
Aug 2019

bucolic_frolic

(42,651 posts)
5. Haha, well, let's not forget the Garland Theft and Deception
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:38 AM
Aug 2019

That's a McConnell Operation, and it prorogued the Constitution!

21. I learned a new word today: "prorogued"
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:15 AM
Aug 2019

From vocabulary.com

Prorogue is a technical way of saying "put off" or "delay." Usually, it describes something a government body does: when a congress or parliament prorogues, it's putting off business for a while.

Prorogue comes from the Latin word prorogare meaning "to stretch out." When you stop a meeting and decide to meet again at a later time, this "stretches out" the work being done. Remember that prorogue is close to prolong, which means pretty much the same thing, but without a break.

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Thanks for proving once again, "You're never too old to learn."

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
9. Glad you brought this to the forefront.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:50 AM
Aug 2019

That whole episode was quickly swept under the rug.

Keep it up!

malaise

(267,784 posts)
10. Trump's hidden back channel to Justice Kennedy: Their kids
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:50 AM
Aug 2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/donald-trump-supreme-court-236925
<snip>
After Donald Trump wrapped up his first speech to Congress and worked his way through the crowd, he lingered on his handshake with Anthony Kennedy, the 80-year-old Supreme Court justice.

The boom mics picked up their seemingly private conversation.

“Say hello to your boy,” Trump said, “Special guy.” “Your kids have been very nice to him,” Kennedy replied. “Well,” Trump said, “they love him, and they love him in New York.”

While the White House is focused this week on shepherding Trump’s first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, through the Senate confirmation process, the president and his team are obsessed with the next possible vacancy.
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This is 'your boy'
https://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-kennedy-son-loaned-president-trump-over-a-billion-dollars-2018-6
Trump's business career is more connected to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy than we ever knew

amywalk

(254 posts)
14. The time to ask questions was before he swore in Kennedy's replacement,
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019

Kavannaugh. Better late than never, I suppose, but this article is dated a year ago.

SayItLoud

(1,696 posts)
15. NEW YORK STATE & CITY
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:24 AM
Aug 2019

Federal pardons will let the #TrumpCrimeFamily escape. NYC and NYS are the only hope to get these grifters. And, I hope for F's sake this isn't treated like so many white collar crimes...$$$ fine, no jail.

America has been sold out by the tRUMP crime family; they need to be help accountable.

Mersky

(4,969 posts)
18. Was trying to remember who had a questionable connection to DB
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:51 AM
Aug 2019

The firehosing of corrupt entanglement salad that defines the tRumpian years is a bit much for one person to track.

Thanks for posting this, Snarkopleptic. As has been the case countless times for me over the years, I'm better informed for reading DU.

pecosbob

(7,502 posts)
20. That exhange reminds me of 'We had a deal!'
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:08 AM
Aug 2019

'I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further."

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
25. This conspiracy theory never made sense to me
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:21 AM
Aug 2019

Are we really supposed to believe that Kennedy wasn't going to retire? He was in his 80s with a Republican president and Senate and absolutely no guarantee that one or both wouldn't change in the next couple years?

mikeysnot

(4,755 posts)
26. You don't pick your clerks for the next term if you are planning on retiring....
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:49 AM
Aug 2019
https://thehill.com/regulation/367950-ginsburg-kennedy-hire-law-clerks-for-future-supreme-court-terms

According to Above the Law, which first reported the law clerk news, he’s selected four clerks for the October 2018 term. The news may signal the court’s usual swing vote isn’t planning to retire at the end of the current term as rumored.

Sam Erman, an associate professor of law at the University of Southern California Gould School of Law, who clerked for Justice John Paul Stevens and then Kennedy, said it’s not uncommon for the justices to hire their law clerks for future terms this far in advance.

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
28. That's not true
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:16 AM
Aug 2019

O'Connor retired in January after hiring three and retaining one from the prior year.

It may signal that... but that's just to avoid the clerk taking the prestigious job and then being left out in the cold. In the past, other justices have just taken on the orphans.

In this case, one of them was shared with Stevens and one with Alito... one shifted over to Ginsburg and the last shifted to Gorsuch. Plus they retain one in retirement.

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
32. I presume you're referring to the link in your post
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 02:31 PM
Aug 2019
Of course Ginsburg is hiring. She isn't leaving the seat with the current president and senate unless she passes away. It's silly to see the hiring as a sign of what she's "showing" when she has explicitly spoken about her intentions.

Conversely, we all knew that Kennedy was retiring if he got a Republican president and senate. The only question was which year he would decide to do it. There was zero chance that he was going to try to wait for a Democrat to replace him.

If you want more evidence... here's a piece from Kennedy's retirement

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/08/supreme-court-clerk-hiring-watch-the-complete-clerk-roster-for-october-term-2018/

The “orphaned” Kennedy clerks. Inquiring minds want to know: what’s happening to the four clerks that Justice Kennedy hired for OT 2018? In a story about them a few weeks ago, Tony Mauro predicted that “if court tradition holds, the four won’t be jobless for long” — and that prediction has come to pass.


Note that there is a "court tradition" for how to handle orphaned law clerks are handled? There wouldn't be one if the norm were to not hire clerks.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
37. If you're referring to Sandra Day O'Connor
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:53 PM
Aug 2019

her retirement had EVERYTHING to do with her husband's illness. It was thought that he had reached a plateau, but in a few short months, he deteriorated quicker than doctors had predicted. She felt that she had no choice but to retire.

kentuck

(110,947 posts)
27. He knew there was a conflict of interest with his son working so closely with Donald Trump...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:52 AM
Aug 2019

....thru the Deutsche Bank.

Amaryllis

(9,523 posts)
35. No, now is not the time. The time is long past. It should have been questioned at the time, and was
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:13 PM
Aug 2019

by many, but not MSM. Anyone paying attention was suspicious. Many on this forum were.

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