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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMystery of missing votes deepens as Congress investigates Georgia
https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/mystery-missing-votes-deepens-congress-investigates-georgia/x4OTY0ylxfA0Z0Rg6wjkyN/?fbclid=IwAR2kc0MQSGmJ1-0N4crzQmDvtkbYvO45n_6zCxJmCMsT7qg19vxEw7Vh2fg#On machine No. 3, Republicans won every race. On each of the other six machines in that precinct, Democrats won every race.
Even though it was the second race on the ballot, fewer votes were counted for lieutenant governor than for labor commissioner, insurance commissioner and every other statewide contest lower on the ballot. Roughly 80,000 fewer votes were counted for lieutenant governor than in other down-ballot elections.
We've seen these anomalies in Florida since 2000. Unless we can get election integrity, the Russian/Repubs will continue to "win".
underpants
(195,595 posts)Faux pas
(16,230 posts)for all the cheating a holes.
DFW
(59,877 posts)Attributed to Stalin:
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
Not exactly something you will find in "famous quotes of The Founding Fathers," needless to say. Moscow Mitch and friends, on the other hand, seem to repeat it instead of the Pledge of Allegiance every morning.
uponit7771
(93,504 posts)... going to keep getting our asses kicked if we allow the current system to stay in place.
Might as well count those aforementioned issues as lost without an accountable electoral system.
yaesu
(9,126 posts)about it, we are in a true fascist society.
CottonBear
(21,615 posts)Im just sayin...
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NewJeffCT
(56,848 posts)always favor Republicans
Raster
(21,010 posts)...almost as if they voting machines were all manufactured by republican companies... oh wait, they are.
Wounded Bear
(63,985 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Life in prison or death as a traitor to our Democracy.
Still want to play?
DFW
(59,877 posts)See who shoots it down as "too harsh" or (and more likely) "unnecessary."
Pepsidog
(6,356 posts)diva77
(7,880 posts)K&R for exposure
questionseverything
(11,676 posts)nothing else will fix this mess
diva77
(7,880 posts)I was trying to address how faulty the framing of election results is -- to simply use the term "anomalies" or "irregularities" to me is to gloss over the seriousness of votes being lost or flipped. We should err on the side of treating anomalies as possible crimes, and therefore include an investigation of the cause, the actors involved, and a motive.
questionseverything
(11,676 posts)and it just so happens that the "irregularities" get worse for precincts full of poc
from the article...
In addition, the drop-off in votes grew more extreme in precincts with large African American populations, according to an analysis by TargetSmart, a data-tracking firm affiliated with the Democratic Party.
Toorich
(391 posts)They better get those other 6 machines serviced and repaired before the next election.
Democrats winning every race on them. They were obviously broken.
PatrickforO
(15,383 posts)Great humor, grim situation.
robbob
(3,748 posts)The right to vote, and have your vote counted, is the most basic of any democracy. This kind of tampering and vote suppression needs to be investigated and met with stiff jail sentences. Thats the only way its ever going to stop...
lostnfound
(17,442 posts)joanbarnes
(2,100 posts)ProfessorPlum
(11,461 posts)I can't believe they don't see the extreme danger we are all in because of these machines
Sancho
(9,186 posts)diva77
(7,880 posts)Very unfortunate since it seems landslides are needed to eke above the margin of error in order to win elections these days.
Too much vendor/lobbyist and dark money influence keeps these computerized vote-rigging things afloat.
triron
(22,240 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)Of all the nightmares this nation faced after Obama got elected, I felt he would immediately, on January 21st, launch a Major Investigation into our corrupted voting system. Obama and all the rest of the nation had watched the stealing of the elections from Gore AND from Kerry. Voting machines flagrantly and illegally giving the votes to "W".......
AND YET, for two terms, eight years, OBAMA didn't do a single thing to address the problem.
I have asked many fellow Obama voters that question, and they haven't been able to come with an answer...........
Do not take this as a crusade against Obama, I voted for him twice, just a serious question that I feel deserves a serious answer.....
amywalk
(255 posts)much farther than 2018. Stacey Abrams most definitely won that race, but what matters more than who actually votes? its who counts those votes. And when you have the @GOP and the Russians counting the votes, the @GOP and Trump wins. Shocking! Ik.
The Republicans have been cheating like crazy on the touch screen voting machines since George W. Bushs era. Remember Jeb! Bringing home the state of Florida for his bro even after the state had been called for @AlGore and then @JohnKerry. The only way we can beat them now is to come out in such overwhelming numbers that cheating isnt an option.
We also lost the Fla Governorship last year to cheating. Andrew Gillum was elected Governor of Florida, but the votes were changed after it had been called (always a reason to ask for a recount). We cant accept this bullshit anymore. We cant let them keep cheating. They are quite literally killing our children and our home, planet Earth. So, this time is the biggest election of our lifetime. Everything is at stake.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)Of all the nightmares this nation faced after Obama got elected, I felt he would immediately, on January 21st, launch a Major Investigation into our corrupted voting system. Obama and all the rest of the nation had watched the stealing of the elections from Gore AND from Kerry. Voting machines flagrantly and illegally giving the votes to "W".......
AND YET, for two terms, eight years, OBAMA didn't do a single thing to address the problem.
I have asked many fellow Obama voters that question, and they haven't been able to come with an answer...........
Do not take this as a crusade against Obama, I voted for him twice, just a serious question that I feel deserves a serious answer.....
SunSeeker
(57,888 posts)klook
(13,546 posts)why cant you get a paper receipt showing who you voted for? Shouldnt be any more complicated.
On edit: And the voter should be able to use that paper receipt to verify his or her vote after the fact, just as we can for a financial transaction.
Every time I cast my ballot on an electronic voting machine with no paper trail, I have no way of knowing my vote was recorded properly, or at all. There is NO excuse for this.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)so I should be able to put in my ssn and some secret voter ID code and see what my vote was. Then, we could easily solve any anomalies with voter totals and everyone has 7 days to raise a complaint against what their vote says.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)We've seen these anomalies in Florida since 2000. Unless we can get election integrity, the Russian/Repubs will continue to "win".
triron
(22,240 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)Sancho
(9,186 posts)in Florida in 2004.
No one wants to hear it. Countable paper ballots is the only way to have fair elections.
