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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm Confused By What's Going On In The UK Can Someone Tell Me What I Should Know About Brexit....
Start with the initial vote to pull out of the EU (why they wanted to?) and bring me up to date as to what is happening there today.
What are the sides? Who is on what side? Have the people that originally voted to pull out of the EU had second thoughts? What is the Royals position on this?
Just simply explain this - kind of in steps. You know step 1, 2, 3, etc. From the beginning to where they are now.
I'm sorry I'm so uniformed on what's happening in the UK - but I've had my hands and my head filled with what's happening here in the U.S. with Trump and haven't kept up with all that's happening across the pond.
I'm looking for the 'Brexit for Dummies' version or the Cliff Notes version.
tavernier
(12,377 posts)I hear from Brit friends that everyone HATES Brexit, so why cant they get rid of it? Its so confusing to me.
Javaman
(62,517 posts)Brexit: MPs trying to block no deal make it more likely, says Boris Johnson
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49524124
Boris Johnson said the UK would leave the bloc "do or die" on 31 October - prompting some MPs to act to stop the UK leaving without an agreement.
But he said the more MPs try to block a no-deal Brexit, "the more likely it is that we'll end up in that situation".
It comes after the PM announced he would be suspending Parliament for five weeks over September and October.
Mr Johnson said it was to allow the government to hold a Queen's Speech and outline its "very exciting agenda" for the future.
But critics claim his intention is to prevent any moves in the Commons to stop a no deal.
more at link....
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it appears as if not only has Britain been handed the knife, they are willing, without hesitation, going to slit their own throats. And laugh while the blood spurts out.
global1
(25,241 posts)I don't understand Brexit in the first place and now you've introduced another term that is even more confounding - 'the no-deal brexit'.
I need someone here to start from the beginning and tell me how it started and how it evolved to where it is at today.
Javaman
(62,517 posts)Brexit: All you need to know about the UK leaving the EU
What is Brexit?
Brexit - British exit - refers to the UK leaving the EU.
The rise of the word Brexit
What is the European Union?
The EU is an economic and political union involving 28 European countries. It allows free trade and free movement of people to live and work in whichever country they choose.
The UK joined in 1973 (when it was known as the European Economic Community). If the UK leaves as planned on 31 October, it would be the first member state to withdraw from the EU.
Why is the UK leaving?
A public vote - or referendum - was held on Thursday 23 June 2016, to decide whether the UK should leave or remain.
Leave won by 52% to 48%. The referendum turnout was very high at 72%, with more than 30 million people voting - 17.4 million people voted for Brexit.
more at link...
Polybius
(15,381 posts)And since that's not happening, the best case scenario is leaving the EU with a deal.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)Polybius
(15,381 posts)From what I understood, there was no hope.
DFW
(54,341 posts)"What have I done?"
JHB
(37,158 posts)It's an overview, but it doesn't include everything. Part of what it leaves out:
In the lead-up to the referendum, Britain was subject to the same sort of meddling tricks (by billionaires and Russians) that the US had in the 2016 presidential election: illegal data capture to target social media ads, trolls and bots amplifying the messaging of the main "Leave" organization, etc. Cambridge Analytica was part of both the Leave and Trump data operations. And, like Trump, the Leave people fostered xenophobia and straight-up lied about how the EU affected them to get people moving in the direction they wanted.
Also, part of the Leave vote -- enough to tip it -- were people who were dissatisfied with the EU and with the government, and treated a "Leave" vote as a protest vote under the assumption that there was no way it was going to actually pass. This set has shifted once the people really focused on the actual consequences of leaving, but by that time it was already in motion.
On edit: another page, perhaps an earlier version of the above:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46318565
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)marlakay
(11,451 posts)All summer been in Ireland but many from England here and I was in Northern Ireland also.
There was a vote to leave EU or not. During run up to vote the people wanting to leave promised a bunch of untrue stuff that caused a lot of people to vote for it.
I talked to 2 older women who live hour north of London that said they felt lied to and that they cant vote again its in the parliaments hands.
And now people are upset because Boris and Queen just suspended parliament so they cant stop Brexit.
The whole thing is pretty crazy. And no one I have talked to is happy. A lot of people around here think Scotland will try for Independence if it goes through.
Ireland doesnt want any borders or anything to cause troubles after what they went through in the 60s.
A lot of people from London are worried about the economy.