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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe reason Trump may not run next year. He will not want to be known as a "looser."
...Trump will lose the next election. Almost everyone knows it. Trump loves his "brand." When he loses by a historic amount, (which he will) he will be known as worse than McGovern or Carter. The amount will be 10 to 15 percent. (maybe more). Whoever runs against him could get as much as 65 to 70 percent of the vote. It will destroy his "brand" or the Trump name forever. (somewhat like Nixon)
..Since he will be known forever as a "total looser", that is the reason he will not run. He will take a break, play a lot of golf. and will be known as an "ex president", and someone who had the good intentions of not running. His stature as "Ex President" will be greater than if he runs and looses. Also, Trump doesn't like being questioned all the time. Yes, he lies about it, and that is ok with him, but I don't think it is ok with the family. It would be much easier for all, including Trump, if he doesn't run.
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)for all eternity IMO.
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Of course a deal like that cannot be made with New York prosecutors, but maybe he can somehow avoid being prosecuted. I don't know. I do believe this: Trump will look bad for all eternity no matter what happens. His lies and stupidity will survive forever. If Trump keeps us out of war for the next 16 months, that will be the only good thing. And yes, that will be a good thing. He may start a war to try to stay in. Who knows what the idiot will do?
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Is running the country (+ a criminal) and no impeachment. Shame on us.
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)WTF is wrong with the US, and why have the values sunk so low. ... and a congress many of whom are afraid to say/do anything for fear of losing votes. A self-perpetuating disaster. ... and begs the question, who will come along someday even worse than tRump, and will they also receive this enthusiastic support.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)His ultimate fate MUST be jail, and all assets seized.
Otherwise, he has gotten away with treason AND made a fortune doing it.
He had two goals. To create chaos, per daddy Putin, and make a bundle while doing it.
(I'm still waiting for a true, accurate tally of how much money he has caused the tax payers, and those who want to curry favor, to shove directly into his pockets.)
Penniless and in jail is the only just reward for turdface. (AND his spawn.)
MyOwnPeace
(16,923 posts)The US Government has lost too many opportunities to "make a point" about not abusing power to persecute enemies or line one's pockets or simply doing illegal acts.
*Nixon was pardoned
*Reagan was sent off into clouds and rainbows
*"W" and Cheney were let off the hook
AND THEN there's the elections:
*GORE WON in 2000
*KERRY WON in 2004
*CLINTON WON in 2016
They will continue to do whatever it is that we allow them to get away with - and it must stop.
NEVER AGAIN!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)or DC? Hope so. He will probably just get away with all of it. And not even a simple censure in the history books.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)and then renege on it.
Meadowoak
(5,543 posts)Him.
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)him. ... but then Barr, I think, could stop the latter. The entire thing is criminal as hell.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)he cheated to "win", just like he had done his entire life
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I believe he just ran for publicity. He didn't expect his popularity to blossom when he started his racist/bigoted crud. I also thought he'd lose when he didn't drop out.
But, I do believe there is a good chance he will choose to drop out next year, or be forced out by GOPers because they know he will lose.
That creates a problem, GOPers might select a moderate Republican -- assuming they actually exist -- which might prove tougher to beat.
Who knows, though.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,923 posts)that you are correct.
Really, someone telling him that he's gonna' lose? He'll fire them!
Family telling him that? Why would they? It would crash their gravy train, not to mention the line-up of people waiting for them to take them off to jail.
Yeah, he's gonna' ride it to the end - and then figure out a way to screw things over even more, and, of course, with the help of Moscow Mitch and Putey!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)if his favorables keep going south,then he will bail. Or when his bank accounts have a billion plus on the upside.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And lets not be so certain of anything.
I remember some of us worried before the election, and we were called concern trolls.
I tend not to count my chickens until they hatch. Never even mind the jinx factor of saying something like that.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)With signs of dementia, I had thought about the dying in office possibility also, and how strange that'll be, and what outfit to wear while I dance outside with neighbors for several hours without any music playing?
I digress:
The current V.P. always looks like he's doing an intestinal fortitude remedy commercial and/or looking directly into the sun and yeah it bothers me, well that and probably already beaten into the ground poppycock about abortions and Indiana, a search of your own will get you the "fun" details.
The rumors of replacing him on the 2020 ticket, amusing too.
MyOwnPeace
(16,923 posts)spontaneous lawn parties breaking out all over the United States, and the ghoul/ghost of IQ45 appearing to say, "See, I told you they loved me!"
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:58 AM - Edit history (1)
jeans with scant embroidery and shabby chic rips, purple blue nail enamel on fingertips and gold enameled toes. Easy Rider orange mirrored shades in his honor. Mb my Navy cap with my dad's Navy anchor pin. 😝🤣
Outfit just waitin' for that pity [not] party.
🎉🎆🎊
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Unless it looks like the GOP will flip on him in regards to impeachment. Maybe.
More likely he will attempt even bigger election fuckery, along with the GOP. He can't aford not to run. Being President protects him from being prosecuted for various crimes.
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kentuck
(111,069 posts)Nothing is lower than a "loser" to Donald.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 1, 2019, 07:17 AM - Edit history (1)
If he gets beaten in November 2020, he's a loser
If he decides not to run for a 2nd term, he's still a LOSER.
Once he leaves the office. . .BANG!. . .BUSTED!!. . .by the State of New York, for starters.
He's a L-O-S-E-R all the way, no matter how you slice it.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Loser and looser are two different things with entirely different meanings.
One who does not win is a loser. The verb to lose doesnt get a extra o.
Something that is looser is more loose than something which is tighter.
lindysalsagal
(20,638 posts)He loses all power if he doesn't run. He's running. Of that there is no doubt.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,638 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)they will prosecute trump after he leaves office?
LiberalFighter
(50,825 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,113 posts)He has a towering ego and hes not that good at acknowledging reality. Ill believe that hell not run when he says it. Until then, its only speculation.
The only ways I dont see Orange Julius running is if he has a major stroke or gets carried out of the White House (Or Mar A Lago) on a stretcher with a sheet over his head.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That way, we would never have to hear from him ever again.
The only way he could not run, and stay out of prison would be to emigrate to Russia where he couldn't be extradited. However, they would eventually get sick of his crap within a very short time and he'd end up "jumping" out the window of a very tall building.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Because of the lack of attention to election security issues, it will only take a botched election in several states (already on the way to happening) -- and those botched elections referred to SCOTUS for resolution.
Voila. He wins it all.
Call your Congressman now and demand passage of the SAFE Act -- HAND MARKED PAPER BALLOTS never connected to a machine or network.
That is our only hope. Public pressure to protect our elections.
TeamPooka
(24,216 posts)Cosmocat
(14,560 posts)he has no intent of leaving if he does lose ...
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Karadeniz
(22,486 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,055 posts)I have a hard time imagining anyone around in 2016 who would say, "Trump will lose the next election. Almost everyone knows it."
Far too many people knew he would lose in 2016, got complacent, and got downright nasty with those of us who suggested we should not be counting our Supreme Court justices before the election was won.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)Trump LOVES power.
lame54
(35,277 posts)That's dangerous talk
We need a massive turnout
moondust
(19,966 posts)the King of the Loosers and King of Multiple Bankrupcies also the King of the Quitters. What would his klan do without him?
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Assuming that trump would lose the popular 2020 vote - and blame a vast, horrible, criminal conspiracy against him, he then needs to make a decision.
Try a power grab with putin, base, corrupt 'con's, etc. help, or if that appears not to be working well enough. . .
. . . get safe asylum 'somewhere; - and resign from there.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)By doing all his crazy stuff it just doesnt seem like he wants to win. I think he is tired of the job and wants to go start his fake news network and cash in on his presidency.
rainin
(3,010 posts)Elections are decided by totally unverifiable electronic voting machines known to be hackable.
Oh, and he makes money when he campaigns. So there's another reason to go through the charade of campaigning for an outcome that is predetermined.
lark
(23,078 posts)He's sure his party and the Russians (with help from SA & Israel) will steal the election for him and he can do anything he wants and it won't affect the results. He can't even consider not winning because he will go to jail, and he knows it very well. Since he's deliberately made the nation's elections systems more insecure and now has stopped any action from the FEC (Repugs desert committee so no action can be taken) so his last obstcle has been removed. The only thing that could possibly win this for us and for sanity, is an overwhelming outcome far in advance of anything they predict. #BLUETSUNAMI is our only hope.