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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:32 PM Aug 2019

The reason Trump may not run next year. He will not want to be known as a "looser."

...Trump will lose the next election. Almost everyone knows it. Trump loves his "brand." When he loses by a historic amount, (which he will) he will be known as worse than McGovern or Carter. The amount will be 10 to 15 percent. (maybe more). Whoever runs against him could get as much as 65 to 70 percent of the vote. It will destroy his "brand" or the Trump name forever. (somewhat like Nixon)
..Since he will be known forever as a "total looser", that is the reason he will not run. He will take a break, play a lot of golf. and will be known as an "ex president", and someone who had the good intentions of not running. His stature as "Ex President" will be greater than if he runs and looses. Also, Trump doesn't like being questioned all the time. Yes, he lies about it, and that is ok with him, but I don't think it is ok with the family. It would be much easier for all, including Trump, if he doesn't run.

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The reason Trump may not run next year. He will not want to be known as a "looser." (Original Post) Stuart G Aug 2019 OP
That makes a lot of sense! However, if he is prosecuted after out of office, he will really look bad RKP5637 Aug 2019 #1
Of course you are correct. Perhaps he can cut some kind of deal not to be prosecuted. Stuart G Aug 2019 #5
Incredibly perilous times with this damn fool maniac at the helm! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2019 #16
That just sounds amazing..a damn fool maniac Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #31
And millions and millions support this guy no matter what he does. Makes one really ask RKP5637 Sep 2019 #47
No. Deals. not_the_one Aug 2019 #23
I'm with 'ya! MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #28
Not gonna happen with Barr in charge. Maybe a state Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #33
Or we could do like Trump does: Make a deal Mike 03 Sep 2019 #53
Trump will resign 1 day before the end of his term, so that President Pence (for a day) will pardon Meadowoak Sep 2019 #37
... pardons only work, as far as I know, for Federal offenses, not state. So, NY could still go RKP5637 Sep 2019 #48
Trump lost the last election Skittles Aug 2019 #2
+1, asked for ... welcomed...and used foreign help during 16 election uponit7771 Aug 2019 #25
Hope you are right. But, I thought trump would drop out at the 2016 Convention because Hoyt Aug 2019 #3
Other factors factored in, but adulation must've gone to his obtuse head. sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #26
He's drunk on ego and self-esteem...If he's breathing he'll run BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #4
I have to believe......... MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #29
Trump will dump Pence for Haley and Wellstone ruled Aug 2019 #6
It's "loser" and not "looser." cwydro Aug 2019 #7
So the moooch's early retirement prediction in 2020 still in the mix!?! Brainfodder Aug 2019 #8
What a vision....... MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #30
Got some new Teva strappy sandals (still be warmish weather) blue and white slinky duster over sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #32
He's 100% running Bradical79 Aug 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Sep 2019 #36
That actually makes a lot of sense... kentuck Aug 2019 #10
Tee hee! If he quits, he's a loser. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2019 #11
😝 sprinkleeninow Sep 2019 #34
Looser than what? jberryhill Aug 2019 #12
His only hope of avoiding jail is to get re-elected, and with Vlad's help, it might happen. lindysalsagal Aug 2019 #13
Who will indict him? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #35
southern district of ny lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #41
Barr won't be letting them seal anything. You think Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #43
His ego is too big for him not to run. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #14
That would be Orange Julius' smartest move since January 2016 BUT Vogon_Glory Aug 2019 #15
That would be the ideal situation. smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #54
The path for him to steal it in 2020 is so easy. Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #17
He's locked in and the Russians are helping him so register voters and GOTV everywhere. TeamPooka Aug 2019 #18
One minor detail Cosmocat Aug 2019 #19
If he doesn't run and win, he'll be known as "Inmate #549715". nt Atticus Aug 2019 #20
But...he can't afford the legal expenses on his own. He may have no choice but to try. Karadeniz Aug 2019 #21
Were you areound in 2016? Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #22
No he'll want to continue sakabatou Aug 2019 #24
I don't know he'll lose... lame54 Sep 2019 #27
But that would make moondust Sep 2019 #38
loser? Demonaut Sep 2019 #39
Trump will be indicted the minute he's out of the WH. He's worried that he will lose. Wonder Why? YOHABLO Sep 2019 #40
Might be a close conflicted decision trump makes after the election. empedocles Sep 2019 #42
What ever the scenario, it's not going to be pretty. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #44
I'm expecting a likely brutal, hair raising 2020 fall and winter. empedocles Sep 2019 #49
I've been saying he doesnt really want to win for a while now... Joe941 Sep 2019 #45
That's assuming the fix isn't in. The campaigning is just for show. rainin Sep 2019 #46
He doesn't think he will lose. lark Sep 2019 #50
He'd rather be known as the "tighter"? SHRED Sep 2019 #51
he will run... he can't do without the attention. Demovictory9 Sep 2019 #52

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
1. That makes a lot of sense! However, if he is prosecuted after out of office, he will really look bad
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:35 PM
Aug 2019

for all eternity IMO.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
5. Of course you are correct. Perhaps he can cut some kind of deal not to be prosecuted.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:43 PM
Aug 2019

Of course a deal like that cannot be made with New York prosecutors, but maybe he can somehow avoid being prosecuted. I don't know. I do believe this: Trump will look bad for all eternity no matter what happens. His lies and stupidity will survive forever. If Trump keeps us out of war for the next 16 months, that will be the only good thing. And yes, that will be a good thing. He may start a war to try to stay in. Who knows what the idiot will do?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
31. That just sounds amazing..a damn fool maniac
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:24 AM
Sep 2019

Is running the country (+ a criminal) and no impeachment. Shame on us.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
47. And millions and millions support this guy no matter what he does. Makes one really ask
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:46 AM
Sep 2019

WTF is wrong with the US, and why have the values sunk so low. ... and a congress many of whom are afraid to say/do anything for fear of losing votes. A self-perpetuating disaster. ... and begs the question, who will come along someday even worse than tRump, and will they also receive this enthusiastic support.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
23. No. Deals.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:50 PM
Aug 2019

His ultimate fate MUST be jail, and all assets seized.

Otherwise, he has gotten away with treason AND made a fortune doing it.

He had two goals. To create chaos, per daddy Putin, and make a bundle while doing it.

(I'm still waiting for a true, accurate tally of how much money he has caused the tax payers, and those who want to curry favor, to shove directly into his pockets.)

Penniless and in jail is the only just reward for turdface. (AND his spawn.)

MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
28. I'm with 'ya!
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:08 AM
Sep 2019

The US Government has lost too many opportunities to "make a point" about not abusing power to persecute enemies or line one's pockets or simply doing illegal acts.
*Nixon was pardoned
*Reagan was sent off into clouds and rainbows
*"W" and Cheney were let off the hook

AND THEN there's the elections:
*GORE WON in 2000
*KERRY WON in 2004
*CLINTON WON in 2016

They will continue to do whatever it is that we allow them to get away with - and it must stop.

NEVER AGAIN!



 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
33. Not gonna happen with Barr in charge. Maybe a state
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:27 AM
Sep 2019

or DC? Hope so. He will probably just get away with all of it. And not even a simple censure in the history books.

Meadowoak

(5,543 posts)
37. Trump will resign 1 day before the end of his term, so that President Pence (for a day) will pardon
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:48 AM
Sep 2019

Him.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
48. ... pardons only work, as far as I know, for Federal offenses, not state. So, NY could still go
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:49 AM
Sep 2019

him. ... but then Barr, I think, could stop the latter. The entire thing is criminal as hell.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Hope you are right. But, I thought trump would drop out at the 2016 Convention because
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:38 PM
Aug 2019

I believe he just ran for publicity. He didn't expect his popularity to blossom when he started his racist/bigoted crud. I also thought he'd lose when he didn't drop out.

But, I do believe there is a good chance he will choose to drop out next year, or be forced out by GOPers because they know he will lose.

That creates a problem, GOPers might select a moderate Republican -- assuming they actually exist -- which might prove tougher to beat.

Who knows, though.

MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
29. I have to believe.........
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:15 AM
Sep 2019

that you are correct.

Really, someone telling him that he's gonna' lose? He'll fire them!

Family telling him that? Why would they? It would crash their gravy train, not to mention the line-up of people waiting for them to take them off to jail.

Yeah, he's gonna' ride it to the end - and then figure out a way to screw things over even more, and, of course, with the help of Moscow Mitch and Putey!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Trump will dump Pence for Haley and
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:43 PM
Aug 2019

if his favorables keep going south,then he will bail. Or when his bank accounts have a billion plus on the upside.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. It's "loser" and not "looser."
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:47 PM
Aug 2019

And let’s not be so certain of anything.

I remember some of us worried before the election, and we were called concern trolls.

I tend not to count my chickens until they hatch. Never even mind the jinx factor of saying something like that.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
8. So the moooch's early retirement prediction in 2020 still in the mix!?!
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:49 PM
Aug 2019

With signs of dementia, I had thought about the dying in office possibility also, and how strange that'll be, and what outfit to wear while I dance outside with neighbors for several hours without any music playing?

I digress:

The current V.P. always looks like he's doing an intestinal fortitude remedy commercial and/or looking directly into the sun and yeah it bothers me, well that and probably already beaten into the ground poppycock about abortions and Indiana, a search of your own will get you the "fun" details.

The rumors of replacing him on the 2020 ticket, amusing too.



MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
30. What a vision.......
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:21 AM
Sep 2019

spontaneous lawn parties breaking out all over the United States, and the ghoul/ghost of IQ45 appearing to say, "See, I told you they loved me!"

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
32. Got some new Teva strappy sandals (still be warmish weather) blue and white slinky duster over
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:26 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Sun Sep 1, 2019, 12:58 AM - Edit history (1)

jeans with scant embroidery and shabby chic rips, purple blue nail enamel on fingertips and gold enameled toes. Easy Rider orange mirrored shades in his honor. Mb my Navy cap with my dad's Navy anchor pin. 😝🤣

Outfit just waitin' for that pity [not] party.
🎉🎆🎊

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
9. He's 100% running
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:51 PM
Aug 2019

Unless it looks like the GOP will flip on him in regards to impeachment. Maybe.

More likely he will attempt even bigger election fuckery, along with the GOP. He can't aford not to run. Being President protects him from being prosecuted for various crimes.

Response to Bradical79 (Reply #9)

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
11. Tee hee! If he quits, he's a loser. . .
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:00 PM
Aug 2019

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If he gets beaten in November 2020, he's a loser

If he decides not to run for a 2nd term, he's still a LOSER.

Once he leaves the office. . .BANG!. . .BUSTED!!. . .by the State of New York, for starters.

He's a L-O-S-E-R all the way, no matter how you slice it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Looser than what?
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:07 PM
Aug 2019

“Loser” and “looser” are two different things with entirely different meanings.

One who does not win is a loser. The verb “to lose” doesn’t get a extra “o”.

Something that is “looser” is more loose than something which is tighter.

lindysalsagal

(20,638 posts)
13. His only hope of avoiding jail is to get re-elected, and with Vlad's help, it might happen.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:09 PM
Aug 2019

He loses all power if he doesn't run. He's running. Of that there is no doubt.

Vogon_Glory

(9,113 posts)
15. That would be Orange Julius' smartest move since January 2016 BUT
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:34 PM
Aug 2019

He has a towering ego and he’s not that good at acknowledging reality. I’ll believe that he’ll not run when he says it. Until then, it’s only speculation.

The only ways I don’t see Orange Julius running is if he has a major stroke or gets carried out of the White House (Or Mar A Lago) on a stretcher with a sheet over his head.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
54. That would be the ideal situation.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:48 AM
Sep 2019

That way, we would never have to hear from him ever again.

The only way he could not run, and stay out of prison would be to emigrate to Russia where he couldn't be extradited. However, they would eventually get sick of his crap within a very short time and he'd end up "jumping" out the window of a very tall building.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
17. The path for him to steal it in 2020 is so easy.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 06:52 PM
Aug 2019

Because of the lack of attention to election security issues, it will only take a botched election in several states (already on the way to happening) -- and those botched elections referred to SCOTUS for resolution.

Voila. He wins it all.

Call your Congressman now and demand passage of the SAFE Act -- HAND MARKED PAPER BALLOTS never connected to a machine or network.

That is our only hope. Public pressure to protect our elections.

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
22. Were you areound in 2016?
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:37 PM
Aug 2019

I have a hard time imagining anyone around in 2016 who would say, "Trump will lose the next election. Almost everyone knows it."

Far too many people knew he would lose in 2016, got complacent, and got downright nasty with those of us who suggested we should not be counting our Supreme Court justices before the election was won.

moondust

(19,966 posts)
38. But that would make
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 01:05 AM
Sep 2019

the King of the Loosers and King of Multiple Bankrupcies also the King of the Quitters. What would his klan do without him?

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
42. Might be a close conflicted decision trump makes after the election.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 07:19 AM
Sep 2019

Assuming that trump would lose the popular 2020 vote - and blame a vast, horrible, criminal conspiracy against him, he then needs to make a decision.

Try a power grab with putin, base, corrupt 'con's, etc. help, or if that appears not to be working well enough. . .

. . . get safe asylum 'somewhere; - and resign from there.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
45. I've been saying he doesnt really want to win for a while now...
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 08:51 AM
Sep 2019

By doing all his crazy stuff it just doesnt seem like he wants to win. I think he is tired of the job and wants to go start his fake news network and cash in on his presidency.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
46. That's assuming the fix isn't in. The campaigning is just for show.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:02 AM
Sep 2019

Elections are decided by totally unverifiable electronic voting machines known to be hackable.

Oh, and he makes money when he campaigns. So there's another reason to go through the charade of campaigning for an outcome that is predetermined.

lark

(23,078 posts)
50. He doesn't think he will lose.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:14 AM
Sep 2019

He's sure his party and the Russians (with help from SA & Israel) will steal the election for him and he can do anything he wants and it won't affect the results. He can't even consider not winning because he will go to jail, and he knows it very well. Since he's deliberately made the nation's elections systems more insecure and now has stopped any action from the FEC (Repugs desert committee so no action can be taken) so his last obstcle has been removed. The only thing that could possibly win this for us and for sanity, is an overwhelming outcome far in advance of anything they predict. #BLUETSUNAMI is our only hope.

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