With all this hype in regards to

[42bambi]

gun lovers rights, what ever happened to our rights to - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Have those rights been forgotten? How can we pursue happiness when we live in fear of losing our life?

[virgogal]

1. I'm more afraid of getting in the car and

driving than I am of guns....and I have never owned a gun nor would I allow one in my house.

[sheshe2]

2. Well...

You kind of have a twofer here. Most were shot in their cars.

My heart goes out to them all.

[virgogal]

4. Yes,in this case they were.

[sheshe2]

3. Agree with you 42bambi.

[elleng]

5. Gun makers, nra, and repugs don't give a damn about OUR rights.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

6. One perspective would be that liberty and happiness includes freedom from fear.

Republicans never address fear but instead revel in inducing fear in our populace. It's one of their primary campaign weapons, along with lies and deceptions.

So in that light, Republicans are in constant violation of our Constitution by methodically jeopardizing our liberty and happiness.


KY.....

[aikoaiko]

7. Your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is secure

The police shot and killed the shooter when he wouldn't surrender.

That's pretty good protection of your right to life.

eta: to remove a stray word

[msongs]

8. the murdered people might not agree with you nt

[aikoaiko]

9. Its true that criminals exploit civil liberties and deny other people their rights all the time.

All the time.

[lapfog_1]

10. His very FIRST shot fired was at the Police

and yet 22 people wounded with 7 dead... before they "killed him the shooter when he wouldn't surrender" does not inspire a lot of confidence in the "good guys with guns" theory of how to stop mass shootings in the US.

[aikoaiko]

11. They stopped him.

[lapfog_1]

12. not really... stopped him from what? killing thousands?

what does that even mean? They stopped him.

Seven people including a 15 year old girl who will never attend college or do any of the things she dreamed of doing, would disagree.

The only thing that would have stopped him and the hundreds of other mass shooters is to actually remove their access to guns.

[aikoaiko]

13. Yes, the police stopped him from killing more people.

I am OK with Red Flag laws that take away an individual's guns for cause and with due process.

I'm opposed to taking away guns from a 100 million people who are not a threat.

[SunSeeker]

17. 100 million people with guns IS a threat.

Everyone's a good guy with a gun...until they're not.

[aikoaiko]

23. Sure, but very few good guys become bad guys with guns and kill people.

Especially in mass shootings

[SunSeeker]

27. Even a small percentage of 100 million is still a lot of killers.

People get drunk. People get depressed. People develop mental illnesses. All of these are usually not fatal...unless there's a gun laying around.

[SunSeeker]

16. What the fuck are you talking about? The police were the first shot.

They did not stop him, they were his first victims. He went on to shoot 21 and kill 7 before the police managed to kill him.

He was blazing away with an assault rifle, the mass murderer's war weapon of choice. No good guy with a gun was able to stop him, they only managed to truncate his shooting spree.

"Stopping him" implies he never got to shoot anyone. He wasn't stopped from shooting 21 and murdering 7.

[aikoaiko]

24. I think the Red Flag laws are a good approach to preventing mass shootings.

But stopping a shooter from continuing to shoot people is also stopping the bad guy.

[SunSeeker]

25. Tell the families of the 21 shot & 7 dead that the killer was quickly stopped.

[aikoaiko]

26. You must be confusing my posts with someone else's. I never said the killer was quickly stopped.

Good night SunSeeker.

[Tumbulu]

21. It most certainly is not when civilians can buy military

weapons and use them at their own discretion. On a daily basis no less!

Enough already and don’t you dare imply that anyone feels safe under these circumstances. You might feel safe. I don’t.

Today I did not take my daughter to a movie. I’m scared to go into a movie theater. I won’t go into a Walmart, only Costco, because they have guards at the door.

I am not the only one who is scared by these atrocities. Nobody should have those sorts of weapons. And nobody has the right to them either. Despite the current ridiculous interpretation of the second amendment.

[aikoaiko]

22. I'm not telling you or anyone else how to feel. I responding to the right to LLATPOH.

But you're correct that I'm not afraid.

Every shooting and death is tragic, but the reality is that they are low probability events.

Link to tweet

?s=20

Having said that, we can take action to make them even lower in probability.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

14. You need to understand that so far as the NRA is concerned,

as well as a lot of the gun apologists out there, owning a gun is far more important than staying alive or not being maimed in a shooting.

[Paladin]

19. Exactly so.

Pro-gun militants are perfectly fine with mass shootings by lunatics, as long as their access to firearms and huge quantities of ammo are left alone. It's not as if trump or McConnell are going to do anything injurious to their interests.

[Turin_C3PO]

15. Exactly.

Americans are behind gun reform and need to let their representatives know they won’t for they who oppose sensible legislation.

[SunSeeker]

18. K & R

[lambchopp59]

20. I wanted to buy one of these, but the gun store was out

I'd arm every DU'er with this!...

[bucolic_frolic]

28. 2A is acceding to primacy over the rest of the Constitution

Some days it's like there are no other amendments.