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Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:44 PM

With all this hype in regards to

gun lovers rights, what ever happened to our rights to - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Have those rights been forgotten? How can we pursue happiness when we live in fear of losing our life?

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42bambi Sep 2019 OP
virgogal Sep 2019 #1
sheshe2 Sep 2019 #2
virgogal Sep 2019 #4
sheshe2 Sep 2019 #3
elleng Sep 2019 #5
KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #6
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #7
msongs Sep 2019 #8
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #9
lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #10
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #11
lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #12
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #13
SunSeeker Sep 2019 #17
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #23
SunSeeker Sep 2019 #27
SunSeeker Sep 2019 #16
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #24
SunSeeker Sep 2019 #25
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #26
Tumbulu Sep 2019 #21
aikoaiko Sep 2019 #22
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #14
Paladin Sep 2019 #19
Turin_C3PO Sep 2019 #15
SunSeeker Sep 2019 #18
lambchopp59 Sep 2019 #20
bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #28

Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:52 PM

1. I'm more afraid of getting in the car and

driving than I am of guns....and I have never owned a gun nor would I allow one in my house.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:57 PM

2. Well...

You kind of have a twofer here. Most were shot in their cars.

My heart goes out to them all.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:59 PM

4. Yes,in this case they were.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 09:58 PM

3. Agree with you 42bambi.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:06 PM

5. Gun makers, nra, and repugs don't give a damn about OUR rights.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:07 PM

6. One perspective would be that liberty and happiness includes freedom from fear.

Republicans never address fear but instead revel in inducing fear in our populace. It's one of their primary campaign weapons, along with lies and deceptions.

So in that light, Republicans are in constant violation of our Constitution by methodically jeopardizing our liberty and happiness.


KY.....

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:16 PM

7. Your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is secure

The police shot and killed the shooter when he wouldn't surrender.

That's pretty good protection of your right to life.

eta: to remove a stray word

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:23 PM

8. the murdered people might not agree with you nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:26 PM

9. Its true that criminals exploit civil liberties and deny other people their rights all the time.


All the time.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:26 PM

10. His very FIRST shot fired was at the Police

and yet 22 people wounded with 7 dead... before they "killed him the shooter when he wouldn't surrender" does not inspire a lot of confidence in the "good guys with guns" theory of how to stop mass shootings in the US.

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:27 PM

11. They stopped him.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:38 PM

12. not really... stopped him from what? killing thousands?

what does that even mean? They stopped him.

Seven people including a 15 year old girl who will never attend college or do any of the things she dreamed of doing, would disagree.

The only thing that would have stopped him and the hundreds of other mass shooters is to actually remove their access to guns.

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:44 PM

13. Yes, the police stopped him from killing more people.


I am OK with Red Flag laws that take away an individual's guns for cause and with due process.

I'm opposed to taking away guns from a 100 million people who are not a threat.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:16 AM

17. 100 million people with guns IS a threat.





Everyone's a good guy with a gun...until they're not.


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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:52 PM

23. Sure, but very few good guys become bad guys with guns and kill people.


Especially in mass shootings

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:14 AM

27. Even a small percentage of 100 million is still a lot of killers.

People get drunk. People get depressed. People develop mental illnesses. All of these are usually not fatal...unless there's a gun laying around.



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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:10 AM

16. What the fuck are you talking about? The police were the first shot.

They did not stop him, they were his first victims. He went on to shoot 21 and kill 7 before the police managed to kill him.

He was blazing away with an assault rifle, the mass murderer's war weapon of choice. No good guy with a gun was able to stop him, they only managed to truncate his shooting spree.

"Stopping him" implies he never got to shoot anyone. He wasn't stopped from shooting 21 and murdering 7.


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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:53 PM

24. I think the Red Flag laws are a good approach to preventing mass shootings.



But stopping a shooter from continuing to shoot people is also stopping the bad guy.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #24)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 11:41 PM

25. Tell the families of the 21 shot & 7 dead that the killer was quickly stopped.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #25)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 12:02 AM

26. You must be confusing my posts with someone else's. I never said the killer was quickly stopped.


Good night SunSeeker.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:23 PM

21. It most certainly is not when civilians can buy military

weapons and use them at their own discretion. On a daily basis no less!

Enough already and donít you dare imply that anyone feels safe under these circumstances. You might feel safe. I donít.

Today I did not take my daughter to a movie. Iím scared to go into a movie theater. I wonít go into a Walmart, only Costco, because they have guards at the door.

I am not the only one who is scared by these atrocities. Nobody should have those sorts of weapons. And nobody has the right to them either. Despite the current ridiculous interpretation of the second amendment.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:47 PM

22. I'm not telling you or anyone else how to feel. I responding to the right to LLATPOH.

But you're correct that I'm not afraid.

Every shooting and death is tragic, but the reality is that they are low probability events.


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Having said that, we can take action to make them even lower in probability.






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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:27 PM

14. You need to understand that so far as the NRA is concerned,

as well as a lot of the gun apologists out there, owning a gun is far more important than staying alive or not being maimed in a shooting.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 01:53 PM

19. Exactly so.

Pro-gun militants are perfectly fine with mass shootings by lunatics, as long as their access to firearms and huge quantities of ammo are left alone. It's not as if trump or McConnell are going to do anything injurious to their interests.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:29 PM

15. Exactly.

Americans are behind gun reform and need to let their representatives know they wonít for they who oppose sensible legislation.

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 12:17 AM

18. K & R

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Mon Sep 2, 2019, 10:14 PM

20. I wanted to buy one of these, but the gun store was out

I'd arm every DU'er with this!...

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Response to 42bambi (Original post)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:38 AM

28. 2A is acceding to primacy over the rest of the Constitution

Some days it's like there are no other amendments.

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