I have a question about bathing suits.

[TruckFump]

Here's the deal: My friends and I live in a Seniors Mobile Home Park. We went to the pool. None of us are prudes or give a damn about all of the up tight Repukey rules that RWs consider important.

However, while we were there, 2 young ladies, in their 20s, who live with grandparents in this development -- legally and no problem with them as residents and using the pool. However, both were wearing "butt floss" bikinis and two out of our group with pre teen and early teen grandchildren left with the grandkiddies. The bathing suits at a public beach -- no problem -- but this is a small area and most everyone was uncomfortable. The young ladies were shaking their booties when getting in and out of the spas -- which put their bottoms right at face level to those in the spas.

I would not care if, like I said, at the beach. But...IMO, it's totally improper to let this keep others with young children from using the pool that they pay for. The park manager told those that complained that it was OK for these young girls to dress and act like this.

What do you think? Excepting for the young kiddos that grandparents bring to the pool, I could not care less if people wore no suits at all. But...some times things should not all hang out.

[liberal N proud]

1. To each his or her own

We live near a senior community where they have origies.
It is a very large community and legendary in the area. Party on.

[TruckFump]

3. OMG!!!!!!

Give me the address...I'm moving!!!!!!!

[liberal N proud]

4. Sun City Hilton Head

[TruckFump]

13. What an appropriately named place for an orgie!!!!

Gotta wait until storm season passes and will consider a move...maybe!

[liberal N proud]

29. Pack your penacilin

VD is rampant

[mitch96]

40. "Sun City Hilton Head"...... OMG!

My Ex lives there......... and last I checked she was a prude!!
m

[Hassin Bin Sober]

123. Not no more

[KentuckyWoman]

50. Sun City Peachtree City is kind of known for that too.

And yes, the one is Hilton Head is famed.

[peacebuzzard]

93. The only Peachtree City I know of is south of Atlanta. Is that it?

?

[TheBlackAdder]

94. Reading this OP and the comments, this video clip comes to mind.

.

.

[snowybirdie]

107. Ah The Villages

Left after six months. All right wingers, all the time!

[Mariana]

111. My parents just moved there a few weeks ago.

My husband went there to do some work a couple of months ago, and he was creeped out by the place. I didn't understand why, but if it's full of right wingers, that may explain it.

[snowybirdie]

112. They advertised heavily

on Faux as they developed each community. Advertised "Free Golf for Life" to residents. Turned out courses were crowded and golfers yelled at by monitors to hurry up! Golf cart accidents all the time. Hubby called it, "Nazi golf". At least, in our case, demand for homes was high and we sold at full price, three hours after we listed. Left the place with car windows open and the Stones blasting on the radio! Yeah, we're gonellll

[mitch96]

159. A buddy of mine lived near the Villages

He moved out when it got too "popular".. He said the traffic was horrible with all the "old people" (he was 55 at the time) driving to the early bird. After using a golf cart all week a car was a hand full. All you could see in the cars was blue hair and knuckles on the wheel.. HA
I was there once.. .Reich wing is right.. never again...
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[trof]

142. Lemme guess. The Villages?

[jberryhill]

2. Imho, wearing bathing suits in spas is weird

I don’t see why their choice of bathing suits makes any difference.

Old people have been complaining about what young people wear for pretty much ever.

I am so glad that I’m not becoming one of those kinds of old people.

Leave the kids alone.

[pangaia]

76. the more skin the better....

[hunter]

115. I had a very fine bootie in my twenties...

... and it was frequently uncovered when I was swimming or in the "spa."

I remember string bikinis were a controversy at our high school swimming pool in the 'seventies, and pity the poor teachers who had to enforce those rules fairly. Exactly what ratio of cloth area to bust or bootie size makes a swimsuit a "string?" Is there an exponential component to that formula?

My classmates would also experiment with various levels of swimsuit transparency.

Or streaking.

[jberryhill]

116. Ah, the "string bikini" battle

Almost as consequential as the Great Halter Top War.

I really can't wrap my head around what appears to be the common female experience of "controversial clothing".

Nobody ever has shit to say about anything young mean wear or don't wear.

[TheRealNorth]

129. I went to a Public H.S. in the early 90's

They didn't even allow girls to wear bikinis for gym class.

As far as the retirement home goes, I am sure there are a lot of "dirty old men" that don't mind.

[hunter]

137. Things got much more conservative in the early 'eighties.

I grew up in Southern California.

By the time I was teaching you couldn't get most students to shower after gym class, even if you allowed them to wear swim suits in the showers.

I hated pseudo-militaristic P.E. classes when I was in high school -- Strip down naked and take a shower or get an "F" and spend the rest of your life on lunch detention! -- but I also don't think it's a positive thing that so many children now are terrified their classmates might see them naked.

I think the idea at our high school was to encourage more children to swim by offering P.E. credits for a recreational sort of swimming class. It was basically how not to drown if you fall off a boat or are swept away by a wave, all the basic swimming strokes, how to dive off the high and low boards without looking like a fool, how to stay in your own lane when swimming laps, etc.

Unlike other P.E. classes it was an easy "A" if you made a sincere effort and didn't clown around.

I may have got a "B" for clowning around. If you know you are going to look like a klutz jumping off the high dive then you might as well do it in a way that makes everyone laugh.

The competitive swimmers and athletes had their own classes and competition swimsuits.

[KT2000]

5. I wish they wouldn't dress like that

Manners, etiquette, consideration of others is passe. I would probably leave too, or not go into the pool. It seems unsanitary to me but probably isn't - I don't know.
If it is not against the rules then there is not much that can be done.

[unblock]

22. Unsanitary? How?

really the only thing ordinary bathing suits do better is cover up more skin.

The water is reaching every nook and cranny either way.

Gotta trust the chlorine to do its job....

[KT2000]

53. as I understand it

the string is minimal on the backside. I have heard that nudist colonies require people put a towel down before they sit down on chairs etc. People don't always go in the water when they go to the pool.

[obamanut2012]

56. Good grief

[pangaia]

77. lol

[Mosby]

118. Ecoli and fecal parasites are no joke.

The reason why many pools want people to shower is to clean the butt crack. It's true.

[unblock]

69. there's really no legitimate health concern here.

shaking hands is far more of a health risk.

[Mosby]

119. Not true

Fecal Parasite Found in Public Swimming Pools On The Rise, CDC Warns

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d1a02cae4b03d61163efdae/amp

[unblock]

134. sure, but that has nothing to do with choice of swimwear or sitting on poolside furniture.

the water in a pool or hot tub is a problem because it gets in every nook and cranny and can contaminate the whole water system.

but that's a problem whether you're wearing bikini floss or knee-length trunks. maybe scuba gear keeps any bacteria in, but short of that, the health risks are the same regardless of choice of swimwear. or lack thereof, for that matter.

[Codeine]

139. But that's not going to change

based on swimsuits. Dirty ass is dirty ass. In fact, I imagine anyone putting on a buttfloss suit is going to ensure absolute cleanliness in the rump region.

[Polybius]

146. Wouldn't chlorine kill it?

One would hope!

[Mosby]

147. It can live for up to a week in a chlorinated pool.

The parasite behind the outbreak, cryptosporidium, is spread by bathers who have or have had diarrhea within the last two weeks. But unlike other germs, this parasite can survive in well-maintained chlorinated pools for up to a week.

"People have an average of 0.14 grams of poop on their bottoms. This poop can wash off swimmers’ bodies and can contaminate the water with germs,” the CDC warns.

It only takes microscopic amounts of this infected fecal matter to contaminate an entire pool or hot tub. If a public swimming facility uses one filtration system for more than one pool, it could spread to all of them.

“This means that a single diarrheal incident from one person could contaminate water throughout a large pool system or waterpark,” the CDC states. “That is why it is so important to stay out of the pool if you are sick with diarrhea, shower before swimming, and avoid swallowing pool water.”

[Polybius]

158. Wow, I didn't know that

Eww, I always thought that chlorine nearly instantly killed bacteria.

[obamanut2012]

55. This has nothing to do wiith manners, except those like the OP

Who stared and judged and laid their outdated sexist and judgemental attitudes upon these women minding their own business AT A POOL.

[cwydro]

79. Spot on.

[leftyladyfrommo]

71. I don't like it either. But I hate water and would

never go near a pool.

[pangaia]

78. do you shower... in water.....?

[leftyladyfrommo]

89. Nope. I just wash off every day.

Doesn't take 40 gallons of water to stay clean I don't have a shower and my knees aren't good so getting in a tub is too dangerous. So I just learned to keep clean using not very much water.

[Codeine]

98. I think we may have

different definitions of clean.

[leftyladyfrommo]

109. Possibly.

But I think washing off with soap and water and then rinsing probably gets you just as clean.

[Codeine]

140. . . .

[LakeArenal]

6. Kids are kids. I wish I had my 20 year old body

If someone wants to remove the kids that’s their hang up. Not mine.

Let the sweet buns roll.

[yardwork]

7. I doubt the children noticed or cared.

[TruckFump]

10. Yeah, they did notice.

Pointing and one asked to leave because he was embarrassed.

Me, I don't care...but I felt badly for the kids who were with their grandparents.

[yardwork]

12. How old was the child who asked to leave?

Maybe the child picked up on the adults' discomfort.

[TruckFump]

14. Male, about 10 - 12.

His grandmother handled it well, and just made no big deal and said something about getting frozen yogurt.

[pnwmom]

36. That makes sense. He was old enough that he might REALLY have noticed. And been embarrassed.

I don't think a 3 or 5 or 7 year old could care less. They've all seen bottoms.

[emmaverybo]

8. I think it's gross and that some code for appropriate swimwear should be enacted. It's stressful

enough to be a senior without this crap. If it is a senior community, let them decide some rules for
guests in communal areas.

[Codeine]

61. Someone's butt is stressful for you?

Jeebus.

[emmaverybo]

131. Time and place. If hanging out butt in a thong stresses seniors and their grand-children in a SENIOR

community, then yeah. Most places have some kind of dress code. Shaming a senior, me or the poster, or younger guests, for being uncomfortable with butt displays...well, if it makes you feel more hip and liberal, then I indulge your comment.

[pangaia]

80. they weren't guests, as I understand it. They live there.

[emmaverybo]

149. And people who live in a SENIOR community should not be held to any standard of attire when

they are stressing out seniors and their grandchildren?

[Mariana]

153. Certainly they should be held to a standard of attire.

Apparently, these women were abiding by the standard of attire that prevails at the pool in this particular senior community. I suspect if their swimwear had been in violation of any established rule or dress code, the OP would have mentioned it.

[emmaverybo]

155. In that case, not much to be done unless others by consensus feel the way the OP does and want

to bring it up to management, which then will decide the suits are appropriate or not. In any case, no one need be shamed, for wearing them or for feeling stressed about their being worn. Suits me
either way.

[metroins]

9. We're all naked under clothes.

Unless you're unhygenic, I don't care.

[Phentex]

73. My first thought as well...

I find it a bit odd that we, as people in general, put on outfits that are often far less than the average nightclothes we might sleep in and go out in public at the pool for all the world to see. That said, we all have bodies of all different shapes and sizes. Who cares? I don't care if someone has ripped abs or large thighs or belly rolls. It's just the skin we're in. If people are okay with what they've put on, I'm okay with it too.

[mnhtnbb]

11. I am a senior living in a mostly 20 or 30 something's

high rise apartment building. We have a fabulous roof top pool. I am astonished by what passes as a bikini these days.

But I'm also astonished by seeing how many women of a certain large figure who wear bikinis that really let all the flab hang out at the beach.

To each her own!

When the President of the United States is married to a former nude model, I guess the standard now is anything goes.

[unblock]

15. Not prudes?

That's a pretty straightforward example of prudishness.

[TruckFump]

16. How?

I am not sure who I would feel -- I have no grandchildren or young children. But if a child is uncomfortable and wants to leave somewhere, how is that prudish?

[unblock]

27. You wrote a whole post objecting to it

Prudes nearly always point to children to defend their positions. In fact, children are almost always oblivious or curious or titilated or amused but rarely offended or uncomfortable.

It's the adults around them who want to avoid an embarrassing conversation who object.

[Piasladic]

39. yup

That's it in a nutshell.

[cwydro]

121. Well put.

Amazing people are so offended by the human body.

[hlthe2b]

17. I think the community has every right to establish rules, but sans that, I don't know what you can

do.

I wouldn't be pleased if a daughter of mine disrespected others in any way AND I do think there are elderly sensibilities that they ought to respect. But, when the parents don't, I guess we just have to grin and bear it. This sense of manners and respect for others seems to be a vanishing notion.

[TruckFump]

20. It's suppose to be a SENIORS development...

...so what I don't get is why someone in his/her 20s would want to live here.

[hlthe2b]

23. Well, if the grandparents have taken them on perhaps they have no other options

More young adults are living with their parents for longer and longer, so I guess this is similar?

[Mariana]

72. It might just be that they love their grandparents. nt.

[pangaia]

84. it's ok if you don;t get it....

[Lancero]

156. Because with todays poor wages, far fewer people have the privilage of affording their own house...

And we're now starting to get to the point where even a low-quality apartment is a privilege to afford.

Grandma and Grandpa's house most certainly beats being homeless.

[obamanut2012]

57. The "elderly sensibilities" on display are sexist and judgemental

they are bathing suits at a pool. Who cares wtf they wear.

People in this thread are why women and girls have self-esteem issues, and why they are treated the way they are by society -- the OP did everything but call them slutty.

[hlthe2b]

60. Honestly. I don't care what people wear, but I do believe in showing some respect for others

espectially as a guest in their home or community. I don't believe in making others uncomfortable. That is not "slut-shaming" but respecting others when I am a guest. (BTW, the community apparently doesn't allow speedos for males, so I'm not so sure your "sensibilities as sexist" claim holds). It is why, when one travels overseas, especially in predominently Muslim countries I am fully willing to leave the halter tops and shorts at home and opt for comfortable, but more conservative pants, shirts, longer skirts, depending on the setting.. I don't do that because I am ashamed or because I believe they are "slut-shaming me", but because I wish to be respectful of others and their cultures.


Can you really not understand that?

[pangaia]

85. "I don't believe in making others uncomfortable. "

Nobody is making those parents uncomfortable. THEY are responsible for their own comfort or discomfort.

[hlthe2b]

95. I likewise have respect for grandparents whose concern for their young body dysmorphic grandchild

especially the 10% (statistically) young girls who shamed by their bodies and who want them to feel free to visit the pool as well.

These lithe young women showing up have every reason to be proud of their bodies. But so too do the grandparents of the less "beautiful" and far more self-conscious young girls have a right to try to ensure them a space where they can enjoy themselves and not be the "butt" of ridicule from their peers or other unkind people. Of course one would expect the young women to be able to wear anything they please at a public beach or similar settings. One would expect that and short of any nudity restrictions, I'd absolutely argue they should be left alone to wear what they wish. But here they are guests at this community and yes, I think the elderly residents have a right to interject their values and concerns if they so please.


So, yes. THAT is basic consideration. You instead want to judge these grandparents based on your presumptions and enforce them to conform to YOUR opinions, no matter the validity of their own concerns.
Tolerance goes in both directions.

[Act_of_Reparation]

96. I for one am proud of you for standing up for the poor, put-upon Boomers of the world.

[hlthe2b]

100. I am standing up for mutual respect and concern for others. That used to be a tenet for all of us

It isn't a concept I want to go extinct. And age has nothing to do with it, despite your ugly implication.

[Act_of_Reparation]

102. Uh-huh.

When you put it like that it almost sounds like you're not scrambling for a posthoc justification for bodyshaming children.

[hlthe2b]

103. I am the one defending young children from fat-shaming/bodyshaming and body dysmorphic shaming

and the grandparent's right to provide them a space where they are not subjected to it.

You, on the other hand, are doing the opposite.

[Act_of_Reparation]

105. Yes, yes, yes.

A rousing defense of the disadvantaged. I are impress.

[hlthe2b]

106. Perhaps you think rising rates of anorexia and teen suicide resulting from body dysmorphia

is likewise hilarious. Ok. I think i understand you now.

[Mariana]

110. That's a new one on me, I must say.

The very existence of women with attractive bodies is fat-shaming/bodyshaming and body dysmorphic shaming to young children. Therefore, those women should cover up in public. Do I understand you correctly?

Fascinating.

[hlthe2b]

113. That isn't what I am saying at all. Obviously you've never experienced the callous nature of

children fat-shaming their peers at the pool, yourself or with your friends, cousins, nieces or own children.

Of course, they will always experience those who society perceives to be "more perfect" but most parents try to help them to develop their self-esteem and coping mechanisms during their most vulnerable stage of youth without constantly being put in a position to feel embarrassment and incite feelings of body dysmorphia. That is why a lot of community pools designed to be "family-supportive"-- as opposed to public beaches-- may have rules restricting the most revealing forms of swimwear for both men and women. Just as they require leak-proof panties on diapered toddlers and restrict glass around the pool.

I once might have been oblivious to this issue as well until an overweight, self-conscious pre-teen committed suicide in my last neighborhood and several child psychologists met with the HOA and community to discuss these issues. I frankly was horrified that it had not occurred to me.

[cwydro]

122. Lol.

[lunasun]

18. Booties have the right of way Pool or beach night or day

If you are lucky they will bring along some boyfriends who are packing with nothing lacking

[TruckFump]

19. Nice try, but "speedos" are banned.

Explain that one to me.

[lunasun]

21. Now that ban is what you should complain about imo !

[TruckFump]

25. I think not.

You have not LIVED until you see a man in his 70s at least 50 pounds over weight wearing a speedo -- and you have no clue he is wearing a bathing suit at all. That's a ban I don't mind!!!!

[Piasladic]

41. old, fat men

Is it the age you object to or is it the weight? Either way you come across as a "prude."

[TruckFump]

42. LOL,

if you only knew!!!!

[Piasladic]

45. I guess so. -nt

[pangaia]

86. You should check out the Russian men at the beach in Sanya, Hainan.

[Trailrider1951]

24. I think that they were dressed appropriately for the spa and pool. However, if it had been

me in one of those swimsuits (about 40 years ago), I would have draped a towel around my hips after I got out of said pool/spa. But, to each his/her own. And if the sight of women's bodies makes you uncomfortable, I suggest you turn your head and avert your eyes. Or leave for some frozen yogurt.

[TruckFump]

26. I was not uncomfortable

Those with teen and pre teen grandchildren with them were. I felt torn between not caring about what anyone wore and thinking that it was unfair that some with grandchildren were uncomfortable and left.

[emmaverybo]

30. Probably one of the most important things in a senior community is for grandchildren to feel

comfortable. It is very unfair that they should be offended and driven out. I hope you can get together with your neighbors to establish some standards for appropriate wear in shared areas.

[Codeine]

64. Why would a butt make a kid uncomfortable?

If someone’s poolwear is going to ruin my kid’s day I’d say I’ve made some odd parenting decisions to put them in that frame of mind.

[pangaia]

87. you hit it on the money.. those kids learned that SOMEWHERE !

[LanternWaste]

74. What precisely was unfair?

"thinking that it was unfair..."

Exactly who broke exactly what social contract, and didn't play by the rules?

[sarisataka]

28. Wouldn't there be even more

Children at a public beach?

[TruckFump]

43. Probably.

But all things are to be anticipated at a public beach...including sharks.

[Alea]

31. We weren't shaking our booties!

Oh wait, seniors mobile home park. Wasn't me ;p

[Iggo]

33. Oh my gawd, the children !!!!

[Baclava]

124. This thread is worthless without pictures!, lol n/t

[JI7]

34. some booties shake naturally when moving around

[ecstatic]

70. Lmao! nt

[Codeine]

143. And the world is a better place for it. nt

[ismnotwasm]

35. My favorite "senior" has been a lifelong nudist

It’s how she lives her life, with no apologies, but she does forewarn houseguests of course.

I dunno. It wouldn’t bother me.

[marybourg]

37. "Butt Floss Bikinis". Very descriptive name.

I was wondering about buttocks now being acceptable for public exposure. I saw such at a gymnastics meet and at a beach, but I had no word for it. Now I do.

[Blue_true]

38. Not something that I would want to see.

But I have learned to ignore it. There seem to be a trend today to show as much as possible.

[GulfCoast66]

44. Goodness we Americans can be an uptight bunch.

Not discounting the folks sincere concern for their children, as silly as I see it. They truly felt concerned. I get it.

But it does not harm a child to see some skin at a pool or a beach.

We were in Iceland a while back and took a tour that went to a natural volcanic heated pool. Not the Blue Lagoon.

One of the rules in Iceland is that you have to shower naked in an open shower and you must use soap on your hair, genitals and feet. Well, the showers don’t have to be open but at most places they are. Then you put on your swimsuit and soak in the water. Mind you the showers are separated by gender. Not universal nakedness.

I was shocked that several Americans in the group decided to forego the pool due to the embarrassment of being naked in front of others of their same sex. The Icelanders find it very humorous. And they say lots of Brits are the same way.

Thinking we can diminish the natural sex drive that is soon to come for children(or for many 12 year olds already exists) by keeping their eyes innocent is folly. In fact, it can be, and in my case was counterproductive. I spent my young teen years horribly bothered by my feelings. Product of an Evangelical upbringing. Luckily by 19 that wore off.

If it is a real problem then the community needs to pass new rules.

Another Irony: no speedos. In many pools in France, at least 2 we visited, speedos are required as they are considered proper swim wear. Trunks were considered shorts. And this was in Normandy, hardly the most libertine region of France.

[BlueMississippi]

46. We become more and more puritanical as we age

Generational disagreements over clothes is routine.

[madaboutharry]

47. I don't know why anyone would want to wear

a bathing suit like that. They look so uncomfortable. It seems to me having a string in you ass would be very annoying. But what I know!

[Dave Starsky]

58. I think we are way too hung up on nudity in this country.

I don't care how much (or how little) people wear.

But, yeah, that looks uncomfortable to me, too. Like having your underwear up the crack of your ass.

[snort]

48. Address?

[rufus dog]

49. I have a question, where do you live?

And can you get the Rufus Dog a guest pass?

[Skittles]

52. down, boy

[KentuckyWoman]

51. Perspective

20's ... ripe and ready for the pickers. ... I wish I'd shaken my can a bit more in my 20's.

A bathing suit has nothing to do it. A fully clothed person in any location putting their hind end in my face will hear a few words. Smaller children and people with health issues do get a pass sometimes.

A few years ago, my husband and I attempted to use the local pool near our hotel in France, wearing our sensible basic American suimsuits. We were told our suits were not sanitary. We were asked to stay out of the water until we could obtain proper swim clothes. (speedo and butt floss).

We currently live in a senior living place in an area with lots of senior living places. The local community center sets aside 11am to noon for all us oldies to use the pool free of competition with squealing kids. We have an 80+ yr old woman who is a hefty woman and comes in her butt floss, and shakes the heck out of her can. She doesn't mind telling anyone who'll listen that she used to be a Rockette. She is a beautiful mess if you ask me (and you didn't )

[obamanut2012]

54. I hope you learn how sexist your OP is

And that you and your friends educate yourselves on how your "values" are sexist and objectifying at BEST, misogynistic and judgemental at worst.

Get over it. Quit teaching your grandkids to think that way, too.

This is as ridiculous as that tattoo OP someone posted the other day.

[Codeine]

65. Well stated. nt

[BlueTsunami2018]

59. I'm not sure what the problem is.

How is this hurting children or elderly people? We all have buttocks, some just look better than others.

[Codeine]

62. When did DU become Church Lady Central?

“Not prudes” indeed. It’s just butts; you’re in a pool, learn to cope with pool wear.

[Vinca]

63. My husband wants directions. And here I thought he wasn't ready to retire.

[OnDoutside]

66. Are you sure didn't misspell "directions" ?

[alphafemale]

67. Accustom kids to the fact that people have "parts?"

I really doubt a kid would think too much of it if an adult weren't clucking their tongue and snorting.

My kids were around nudists.

Just carry a towel to sit on please.

[Liberal In Texas]

68. Just be happy it isn't the grandparents wearing the string (floss) bikinis.

[peacebuzzard]

88. I am over 60 and wear a bikini. I don't care what people think,

I don't wear the floss type though.
I don't want to wax that much.
But I do wear tri shorts to do lap swimming because of the flip turns or to not let it all hang out when getting getting out of the pool.
Normal hotel and community pools are too small for that type of work out.

[obamanut2012]

99. Good for real!

For real.

[LanternWaste]

75. Their attires seems so much more benign than network advertising.

But I get it... a couple of years back, a poster told us about skimpily clad tween on a plane he couldn't tear his eyes away from; despite alleging it so distasteful, he was somehow or another forced to look at them.

I'm guessing a lot of people pay a much closer attention to clothes than I do, and in doing so, pretend it's an actual concern... as the alternative would be pretty creepy to say the least.

[peacebuzzard]

81. a Brazilian wax job goes well with bikinis.

especially the dental floss bikinis

[cwydro]

82. Kids in Europe have no problem with this.

We seem to be a bit hung up on things here.

[HelpImSurrounded]

83. School dress codes and boys who are easily distracted,

Bodies are bodies. If we weren't so prudish about them, they wouldn't be such a big deal and we wouldn't feel a need to oppress girls and women simply because boys are too easily distracted. That problem starts because of what you are trying to do. YOU are making it naughty, taboos etc and that just makes it more interesting and you teach young boys that they don't need to learn self control.

[Act_of_Reparation]

90. Dafuq?

What the hell happened to this place?

[cwydro]

92. Quite amazing.

Funny.

[Codeine]

97. I don't know. Could it be

perhaps?

[obamanut2012]

101. This, the tattoo post

etc.

[Polybius]

160. What tattoo post?

Damn, I missed it.

[peasant one]

91. No big deal

I was raised in a household where we were uptight about our bodies--then I went to Denmark as an exchange student in 1975. In Denmark nudity was no big deal. The family I stayed with had a swimming pool and people showered and changed in front of everyone else including little children. It was the weirdest thing to me at first but I quickly got used to it. I realized it is just a body and everyone has one. We are all beautiful no matter what our shape or size. I believe children learn to be uncomfortable with their bodies from their parents. So I hope you go back to the pool wearing or not wearing a swimsuit.

[empedocles]

104. 'Much Ado About . . . not much.

[RGTIndy]

108. If someone's butt is the worst thing that those kids see today

They are probably going to be okay.

[Niagara]

114. I don't see what the big deal is

I'm not exactly sure what the requirements are nowadays in the public school system. I had to shower with the other 20 or so other girls after participating in physical education class in junior high and high school. Our junior high physical education teacher said there was no reason to be immature about showering and undressing in front of each other because a butt cheek was a butt cheek and a boob was a boob.


As the male age 10-12 soon hits puberty and starts physically developing, it is possible that he may not want to leave the pool area where 20 something ladies are sporting skimpy bikinis and shaking their booties.


It's a pool area, situations like this are to be expected.

[MineralMan]

126. The boys in my high school had the same kind of open showers.

I don't remember it being any kind of issue, actually. The same situation existed in the USAF, with open showers in all of the bases where I was stationed. It was just part of everyday life. It might have been an issue for some people, but I didn't know anyone who thought it was an issue at all.

I don't know what the situation is today in high school gym class. I never had any kids, and I'm grandpa age for kids who are that age today, and then some.

I just remember that we thought nothing of it.

[Niagara]

136. You're exactly correct, MM

It was a part of everyday life and I also don't remember any kind of issue.

We had 2 semesters in a school year with 7 rotating class schedules in a day. One half of the students during the first semester had a required health class and the other half of the students had required P.E. class for that semester. When the new semester began, every student who took health class went to P.E. class and vice versa.



My son graduated high school several years ago. He had P.E. class every other day but taking showers after class wasn't required. It probably varies with each state and most likely different school districts. I know some schools are eliminating or have eliminated recess at elementary schools. So many things have changed since I've been to public school.

[MineralMan]

157. I know that many things have changed since I was in the school

system in the 50s and early 60s. Since I have no offspring, though, I haven't followed the changes very closely.

I'm not necessarily nostalgic about those old days, but I recognize the differences. Schools were certainly very different then from what I hear about today.

[Mosby]

117. Some pictures would help me understand the issue better.

[emmaverybo]

150. LOL.Ya sure know how to lighten the mood.

[malaise]

120. A few decades ago, I was visiting one of my closest friends from childhood

Her first daughter was almost sixteen and was heading to a sweet sixteen party in a lovely mini-dress. My friend asked her where she was going in that dress.
Now I was the third person to hold that baby in my arms when she was born. I called to my friend and asked her to come to the kitchen with me. I then asked her if she remembers when my mother told the two of us not to bend over because people would see what we had for breakfast given the length (or lack thereof) of our mini skirts.

I told her that I wouldn't allow her to terrorize my beloved when her dress was actually longer than those we wore back in the day. I added that her daughter was a responsible teenager and she'd be fine. She looked at me and laughed and said sometimes we forget.

My beloved first baby in the entire group is now 47 - a responsible adult with a fine profession and a nice family.

If a ten year old told me he was uncomfortable because of what other young folks were wearing I'd tell him to get a life. They were heading for the pool not a church service.

[Brainfodder]

125. The price we pay for freedoms!

As long as the buns are hot, I'm interested... (I love biscuits/popovers)

Ladies, be as naked as local rules allow, I do not care, I do not dare, but I will not care if you show your derrière!

I will look, it's a hook, I will pretend to see that end!

[Johnny2X2X]

127. The human body doesn't need to be covered up

People should wear what they are comfortable wearing. Children should not be taught to be embarrassed of the human body.

[TygrBright]

128. Young kids have a tendency to reflect their parents' attitudes...

If the parents give the butt floss an amused glance and a shrug, the kids will get used to it, and everyone will be happy.

Butt floss looks uncomfortable as hell to me, but I daresay it's like high heels... when you're used to it, you don't notice it much anymore.

I never HAVE understood the whole "young kids should be protected from seeing what nekkid bods look like" thing, though, so possibly I'm not a good sounding board.

Now if people are being mean, bullying each other, engaging in unsafe horseplay around a pool, THEN I'd put on my Miss Grundy "What are these children learning from you? Shame!" hat.

But learning not to be embarrassed by what other peoples' bods look like is a key skill for humans to learn at a young age.

opinionatedly,
Bright

[wasupaloopa]

130. My wife and I are nudists. Naked adults do not scare children or give them trama.

What does effect them is adults reactions like you described. Modesty is not something we are born with. Like racism it is a learned emotion.

I know most see us as kooks but that does not bother us. We spent the past week visiting nudist clubs in Oregan. There were kids there. Being nude and seeing nude people did not bother them at all.

My wife’s family were nudists. We met at a nudist club. I
Met my future in-laws nude as were they. We have been married 33 hrs and she and her siblings are normal people.

We are dressed where we should be and nude where we can. Seeing skimpy bathing suits is more stimulating than seeing the same person nude because you fantasize about what you don’t see.

[Captain Stern]

132. I don't see a problem here.

It sounds like only two people in your group decided to leave because of this. Each to his own...if they want to leave, that's ok. But it sounds like most people stayed.

Then, you said:

IMO, it's totally improper to let this keep others with young children from using the pool that they pay for.

Ok. Fair enough. But it's the people that are choosing to leave that are keeping themselves from using the pool. It's not the people that are dressing in a way that those people just happen not to like.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

133. How about if we stop slut shaming women?

If it makes you uncomfortable, that's on you. Not them.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

135. I can't make an informed decision without seeing a picture

of the young ladies in their bathing suits. Could someone post, say, a half-dozen high resolution photos to help me? And since I'm old (70), it would greatly help if the images are as large as possible.

Thank you.

[Tarc]

138. It's this closeted, Christian-tinged notion that the human body is shameful, which is the problem

[Codeine]

141. He don't like big butts and he cannot lie.

You other old folks can’t deny,
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your pool it ain’t cool!

[Polybius]

144. They're all like that now for the younger ladies

Not quite thongs/g-strings, but very cheeky. In a few more years we'll all get used to it, just like we did yoga pants and noserings.

[Polybius]

145. You should see what I see at the nude beach

I go several times each Summer. Last time I was there, there were three early 20ish ladies that sat in front of me. They had to sit close, as it was very crowded that day (towel to towel I was about 3 feet apart from them). All removed everything, tops and bottoms. They were friendly, and were drinking. We exchanged beers in a friendly trade, as canned beer is allowed.

Every so often, one of them adjusted their towel and got the sand off of it, bending over butt-naked into my view. I saw everything, and there was no hair or anything covering the parts on any of them. I'm no perv, but it was literally impossible not to look.

One of the other three was sitting in a beach chair, directly in front of me, and was spread-eagle the entire time, even while we chatted. I had to think of trees and baseball just to hide my emotions!

Nice group though, and very friendly!

[trackfan]

148. I want me, that is myself, plus everyone I don't want to see naked, severely clothed at all times.

All others are okay to be naked.

[Skittles]

154. I am unsure of the sentiment "we are all beautiful"

I'm with you, there are many, MANY people I do not want to see nekked

[SeattleVet]

151. So Speedos are banned, but full-length trunks appear to be OK.

I'm starting to like the idea of these "Statue of David" swim shorts:

[pdxflyboy]

152. I would like to get

“a closer look “ before a make a decision.

[Polybius]

161. Lol

Remember that old emoji?