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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho ever missed Rachel, catch the rerun later. She has absolutely jaw-dropping
stuff.
On top of the having the military gas up to the tune of 11 mil. in Scotland, he is withholding the aid that has been allocated to Ukraine to help them hold off Russia. The aid will be released in return for dirt against the Bidens to help him win against Biden.
The damned grifter taking the country for a ride, he's bribing a country to help him win the 2020 election. He needs to be hauled up to account for himself.
LiberalFighter
(51,170 posts)joshdawg
(2,652 posts)whoever continues to support trump is not American.
trump supporters are traitors to the U.S.
That includes about 80% of all republicans.
Vote the bastards out!!
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)spanone
(135,900 posts)hands down.
dchill
(38,565 posts)Mobster Thief Traitor.
lock him up.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,819 posts)This will be another case of not being able to trace this directly to Trump, to a legal certainty.
The Congress can subpoena, but the Executive will have to act to enforce it. Same with Judicial decisions. I am aware that the Capitol Police can be used, but can you imagine them rolling up to a military base to take their General in?
Another "Balance of Power" stalemate.
Lonestarblue
(10,106 posts)He should be asked about it the next time he is interviewed for his book tour. I am angry at the extra unnecessary spending when Congress just keeps giving more and more money to the military, but I find it very disturbing that the military was doing this to support Trumps personal finances. Thats a level of corruption I did not expect to see, and it makes me wonder just what the military will do to protect and support Trumplike sending a nuclear bomb to Iran. It feels as though there are no controls anymoreits all whatever Trump wants, including allowing him to use funds for the wall specifically not allocated by Congress for that purpose. Trump has effectively taken away Congress power of the purse with nary a peep from any Republican.
That is all
KPN
(15,665 posts)I have always supported impeachment after building the case for impeachment.
Dems now have way more than the Mueller report. I am not a fast food supporter.
KPN
(15,665 posts)[link:https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12442935|
Just messing with ya.
malaise
(269,219 posts)ITTMF!
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)The center isn't holding, peeps.
Open the spigot.
Step back and hold hands. Gonna get deep and choppy!!
FailureToCommunicate
(14,026 posts)seems like the much bigger story than the military stopovers in Scotland...
Our outrage fatigue is certainly being tested daily.
avebury
(10,952 posts)DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)MasonDreams
(756 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)KPN
(15,665 posts)ITMF!
cilla4progress
(24,783 posts)who supports him.
Ilsa
(61,707 posts)Using the military to stopover and buy fuel for aircraft at retail rates to support the failing airport next to his country club in Scotland, and having personnel stay over at his failing resort.
Ilsa
(61,707 posts)Tom Yossarian Joad
(19,231 posts)She took it and wrapped it up beautifully.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Can say, we will investigate that...even for us, it seems so pointless. We have lost our moral authority, imho, since we did not declare on April 4th, that Dipshit's actions were impeachable. Where the hell is the emoluments investigation anyway?
Future generations are going to ask us what we did to stop this,what in heavens name will we say?
erronis
(15,382 posts)will think the dump dynasty is the best thing since burger buns.
And about all of those detentions and deaths of protesters? No word in those new history books.
dchill
(38,565 posts)Fixed it.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,484 posts)We're deep into a global war.
gordianot
(15,247 posts)........When you can fly a nuclear missile that with a little tweaking will turn vast swaths into a large irradiated wasteland. Not only that Putin wants to share his Nuclear Cruise missile with Trump. Maybe extreme measures will get Trump out of hock to Putin and stave off 2020. Kill off excess population and you can still live like kings. A world worthy of Boris, Vlad and Donald just around the corner. Dystopia anyone?
KPN
(15,665 posts)goon force.
randr
(12,417 posts)He needs to get it out front and do an end run around the lsos no matter the consequences.
KPN
(15,665 posts)in comparison to the on-slaughter of bold-faced criminal and otherwise corrupt or totally unethical acts by tRump and his stooges. Yet, here we are ... concerned about a possibility of a little something that can damage a fully law abiding, ethical candidate. Too many American voters are so fucked up.
randr
(12,417 posts)My point is that "if" there is any "there" there it needs disclosure asap.
KPN
(15,665 posts)the the mainstream media tend to normalize trumpism and treat him/them as no different by and large.
MadLinguist
(792 posts)this makes zero sense politically or business-wise for Ukraine. Surely it'd be far more expensive to wage an infowar against some foreign political campaign (a former US vice president running for president) than the aid that is being dangled and simultaneously being threatened to be withdrawn. Unless there are matching funds from Russia to do the dirty deed, or some other kind of backing, this shyte has no rational calculus. I can't bring myself to believe that Ukraine would go along with this, or even that the chief ass-wipe in the White House thinks it would, even taking into account all the mental instability he parades around like a baboon's hind quarters. It feels like he and whoever his cabal is want to pull the remaining truth-tellers into a narrative so outrageous and face-value ridiculous that stories about this crap will look like accounts of pizza-gate.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Jet fuel is $1.70/gal.
C17's have a fuel capacity of 28,000 gallons.
Each fill up is $47,000.
For $11 Million to be spent, there would need to be 230 trips.
No freaking way.
I'm not saying $11 Million isn't long gone, but there were nowhere near that many trips.
How much did we pay to lodge the military at his Dump at Doonbeg?
They should be court martialed and he should be flayed.
drray23
(7,638 posts)From what Rachel was reporting, this is a routine supply route between the US and the middle-east. If they started diverting those C17 flights to systematically use that airport, it may not be that surprising.
DFW
(54,448 posts)The military is coming? Nothing too good for our men and women in uniform! Put them all in the Presidential suite!! What? There is only one presidential suite? Well, EVERY ONE of our service people deserves the presidential suite! For them, EVERY room is the Presidential suite. After all, the money IS going into the president's pocket. It costs £3000 a night? Cool, our taxpayers would never refuse only the best for our service people, right? Thirty people at £3000 a night? There's $110,00 per night right there.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Padding the bill is standard for Trump. Using his government issued charge card is new, but his slow-witted grift is so open and low level. It's all about cash flow before his marks get wise.
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mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Last quote I saw was about $2.36 per US gallon. But still 165 trips? Yikes!
riversedge
(70,351 posts)riversedge
(70,351 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,788 posts)and still getting away with it.
Funtatlaguy
(10,890 posts)sagesnow
(2,824 posts)Seemed apropos considering all the laws tRump is breaking.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Im dead serious and I think a lot would be revealed by those answers and might explain why they landed - not just to keep the Scottish airport Trumps resort depends on.
Meanwhile the irony is not list that Trump is not only dismantling all the Obama era penalties against Russia after the invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea, but then bribe the Ukrainians and help him steal an election (again).
This is so beyond fucked up
grumpyduck
(6,272 posts)but it's those assholes in Congress that are enabling him. Get THEM outta there.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)We gotta keep our political aspirations intact, right? Or in other words, keep our powder dry.
superpatriotman
(6,253 posts)Whats being done?
Paladin
(28,277 posts)I'm not holding my breath. We're going to dry-powder our way into a right-wing dictatorship before too much longer.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)elias7
(4,029 posts)triron
(22,026 posts)Gothmog
(145,667 posts)Gothmog
(145,667 posts)Vinca
(50,318 posts)IMO, it's a huge, freaking deal. Maybe someone needs to put a face on it and locate someone from the flight crew for an interview.